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Thankyou again to all you kind peeps who have messaged me about my husbands lung cancer. It is secondry cancer but a few days ago he was told this stark truth. We can help you but If you do not stop smoking now... you won't live another 9 months.

This means I must stop with him.

We have spent two hours with the nurse. We have the patches, a plastic thing to suck that makes you look a Pillock in public, Nicotine chewing gum etc etc.

Tonight before we go to bed, all lighters, ashtrays etc will be smashed and binned.

Pete only smokes 15 a day but I smoke 60 a day. If anyone could give us any tips to distract ourselves, I would be very very grateful.

Thanks
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I don't have any advice its a tough habit to break. I know you both can do it as it is so vital to both your health. I will send good thought and strength your way sometimes the stark truth is the best medicine. You can do it. :-6
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oscar;1257633 wrote: Thankyou again to all you kind peeps who have messaged me about my husbands lung cancer. It is secondry cancer but a few days ago he was told this stark truth. We can help you but If you do not stop smoking now... you won't live another 9 months.

This means I must stop with him.

We have spent two hours with the nurse. We have the patches, a plastic thing to suck that makes you look a Pillock in public, Nicotine chewing gum etc etc.

Tonight before we go to bed, all lighters, ashtrays etc will be smashed and binned.

Pete only smokes 15 a day but I smoke 60 a day. If anyone could give us any tips to distract ourselves, I would be very very grateful.

Thanks


you can't use all 3........that will kill you both.:-5

just use one only........the gum works well....but the cravings are still there, the program takes 3 months.

but the patch is better as it filters nicotine into your system at all times....you will never have 'the urge' again.
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oscar;1257633 wrote: Thankyou again to all you kind peeps who have messaged me about my husbands lung cancer. It is secondry cancer but a few days ago he was told this stark truth. We can help you but If you do not stop smoking now... you won't live another 9 months.

This means I must stop with him.

We have spent two hours with the nurse. We have the patches, a plastic thing to suck that makes you look a Pillock in public, Nicotine chewing gum etc etc.

Tonight before we go to bed, all lighters, ashtrays etc will be smashed and binned.

Pete only smokes 15 a day but I smoke 60 a day. If anyone could give us any tips to distract ourselves, I would be very very grateful.

Thanks


I wish I had some advice to give you. I only made it 5 hours with the patch on the other day. :(
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To be blunt...........it's what they call a 'No brainer'

I am a long time smoker, every few months the lungs clog up, the mucous, the wheeze, the shortage of breathe, makes me question why I smoke.

I 'gave up' a few weeks ago, after the weed got to me yet again, that frightening feeling that I am injuring my so delicate lungs, for minimal enjoyment......cos to be honest, how many are that necessary ?

That one after dinner.......that's THE one you enjoy, many, most of the others are habit and nothing more......and some are painful.

I have been non smoking at work, because I told everybody, and rush home and smoke myself to death.

Who is kidding who......I wonder ?



I have always said you must want to give up or else it wont happen.

You have the ultimate reason.....so that's why I say......"It's a no brainer"
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Bruv is right.

You smoke, Pete dies.

Sorry. It's as simple as that.

I call them the "three minute madnesses". If you can get through those three minutes, the craving passes and the gaps between them gradually get longer.
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when i fell ill due to my drinking i stopped drinking straight away no ifs ,no buts i knew i had to stop

the answer you seek is so very painfull but so very simple

like no one could force me to drink ,no one can force you to smoke

just stop smoking



if you love your husband and want him to live ... just dont buy any fags,dont smoke

what greater reason could you possibly ever have to stop smoking

drinking is an illness that so far i'm beating five months on the 3rd of nov

is smoking an illness or just a bad habbit ....... just stop after 3 days its meant to get easier ,my brother a smoker on 50 a day for over 30 years just stopped no help he just went for walk etc now after a year of no smoking he is feeling much better

good luck ..... just say no :-6:-6
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Have a read of my thread in the journal section called I Wonder,,, it might be a good idea for you to keep a journal on it too ,, turn it in to an experiment:)

this helped me ( in fact it was a big part of my deciding to pack in)

WhyQuit - Nicotine Withdrawal and Recovery Symptoms

Only thing with that is it advocates cold turkey and i have to say i personally agree with it ,, i think it would get the bad bits over quicker,,,, getting patches etc. only puts off the actual doing without! prolonging it imo. But saying that you have to do it the way you thikn you can cope:)

Physical symptons,, just pretend you are ill,,, if you had a virus or a cold or summat you would just have to put up with being ill till you got better ,,, same thing:)sometimes i would just put myself to bed in the first couple of weeks:wah:

If you can make it through one day,,, then you can do it again for one more day ,,, then one more ,, till its a week ,, and if you can go a week well,,, why were you ever smoking in the first place!!!!!:D

good luck, and remember, if you are smoking, peter is smoking.




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oscar;1257633 wrote: Thankyou again to all you kind peeps who have messaged me about my husbands lung cancer. It is secondry cancer but a few days ago he was told this stark truth. We can help you but If you do not stop smoking now... you won't live another 9 months.

This means I must stop with him.

We have spent two hours with the nurse. We have the patches, a plastic thing to suck that makes you look a Pillock in public, Nicotine chewing gum etc etc.

Tonight before we go to bed, all lighters, ashtrays etc will be smashed and binned.



Pete only smokes 15 a day but I smoke 60 a day. If anyone could give us any tips to distract ourselves, I would be very very grateful.



Thanks
I have seen this a million times, if I have seen it once. Do you want to be one of those people who suck a fag through a hole in your neck, because you are enslaved by it?

I can give you a million and one reasons to quit darling.

But it's down to you how you want to LIVE.

Hooked up to oxygen and puffed out with each step you take, or do you actually WANT to look like a leather purse?



It's not the cig you want, it's the nicotine. Patch. The 24 hour BIG one. Two if you need them. 60 is a trick but it can be done. You MUST equal the nicotine intake you get from cigs.

I'm on step 3. (been on step 3 for months now!) But I am not smoking!



Ask yourself a serious question. What would actually MAKE you quit?

Most people answer this question with "Lung Cancer". But by then it's like closing the barn door after the horse got out.

Your beloved already has that. Secondary smoke can KEEP him from getting better. You MUST protect his lungs at all costs.

It's damage control now.

Your lungs have a capacity to heal themselves and repair damage if it is not too great. Such as emphysema. Too late then.



All I can add, is that I'm here for support and commiseration and a shoulder. ANYTIME hun. x
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Good on you and Pete for giving up the fags:-4 You're motivated now and can do it.



I gave up smoking years ago. If I can do it, so can you. But, you have to realize that it will be hard...very hard. You'll be miserable for a few months.



Try to stay away from people who smoke and places that allow smoking. Have someone act as a touchstone....someone you can call or email everytime you want a smoke.



Get a jar and put a few pounds in it everytime you can't stop thinking about smoking. Then buy yourself something nice when you've quit smoking.



Get into exercise and take a walk around the block everytime you want a smoke.



Go to a hypnotist......chew gum....think about your lungs turning black....



You can do it Julie:-4:D
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Thankyou for all the great advice and tickings off !!!

Poor Peg.... I know how your feel !!!

Day One

Pete has not had one cigg so far and It's nearly 1 pm Blighty time.

I have succumbed but I did go and sit on the patio round the back of the house so he did not Inhale my smoke.

God, this is just toooooooooooooo tough. I dreamt about ciggs last night.

I have three patches on. It reminds me of when I was in court for four days. There was one day I came over faint and my lawyer asked If it was nerves. I told him I had six high strength patches on and you'd not believe the bollocking he gave me. And I was still having ciggs in the breaks. I have smoked since I was around 12 years old. For the past 30 years I have smoked 60 a day. Yeah yeah yeah, i know.... £125 a week for all those years !!!!!

I have set myself a goal as we are putting the cash daily into a pot. I am booking the next trip to Turkey and that much wanted vacation to the Deep South of America.

Thanks again my friends. :-4
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try hard!!! and dont think of it as STOPPING, DENYING YOURSELF, DOING WITHOUT.

THINK OF IT AS STARTING, !!! A new life feeling healthier, giving yourself more money, use it to take yourselves out for a fabby meal or something, and you wont have to go stand outside in the rain to have a smoke,, you can just relax and sit in the warm and enjoy your meal:) You are going to have a fab holiday with all the money you used to spend on cigs:-6 at certain times you need to replace your ciggy time,, like i always sat at the kitchen table with my first morning coffee and had a ciggie ,,, but when i quit i was just sitting there staring in to space :wah:so now i take my coffee in the living room and turn on the morning news:)




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kazalala;1257748 wrote: try hard!!! and dont think of it as STOPPING, DENYING YOURSELF, DOING WITHOUT.

THINK OF IT AS STARTING, !!! A new life feeling healthier, giving yourself more money, use it to take yourselves out for a fabby meal or something, and you wont have to go stand outside in the rain to have a smoke,, you can just relax and sit in the warm and enjoy your meal:) You are going to have a fab holiday with all the money you used to spend on cigs:-6 at certain times you need to replace your ciggy time,, like i always sat at the kitchen table with my first morning coffee and had a ciggie ,,, but when i quit i was just sitting there staring in to space :wah:so now i take my coffee in the living room and turn on the morning news:)


Thats so true... finding ways to distract yourself. I know you quit cold turkey and I really admire you for that. I did actually give up once for 7 months and I was so proud of myself but It all went wrong as It was the time Pete needed Major sugery for the cancer last time round. I started slipping and began hiding packs of ten around the house from Pete. One a day turned into 5 and then 5 turned into 20. There is no such thing as just having one is there?

My patio is very sheltered and I've got furnature out there so It's quite Inviting to go sit out there even in this weather. Be strong Julie.... be strong !!!!:wah:

Actually, I nearly bloody died about ten years ago from a Pulmery Embolsim ( Blood clot on the lung). After my lung scans, they told me they were astonsished that I had the lungs of a non-smoker. My Doc is furious they told me that as he said that just gave me the green light to carry on. He said they should never have said that to me at the time. Yet, my sister who never ever smoked or drank, died of cancer, same with my Father.
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Oscar,,, if you quit before then you know you can do it ,,and you have quit cold turkey and will quit cold turkey cos the day will come when you dont use patches etc. :wah:

Never mind about where you went wrong in the past, thats gone ,, this is a new time:) I know its harder for you cos it wasnt your decision,, you dont REALLY want to do it, but feel you have to ,, thats harder imo.




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Good luck :-6

I have lots of Casino Dollars, I bet you $2000 that you will have another cigarette over the weekend.

That will make you NOT!! :D
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kazalala;1257756 wrote: Oscar,,, if you quit before then you know you can do it ,,and you have quit cold turkey and will quit cold turkey cos the day will come when you dont use patches etc. :wah:

Never mind about where you went wrong in the past, thats gone ,, this is a new time:) I know its harder for you cos it wasnt your decision,, you dont REALLY want to do it, but feel you have to ,, thats harder imo.
Can I ask you? Did your appitite Increase? I ballooned last time and had to lose two stone afterwards. :wah: I'm on a bloody diet as well because Pete has been put on a diet Incase he needs surgery. he's not overweight but the Doc Just wants him to lose a couple of stone.
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Betty Boop;1257762 wrote: Good luck :-6

I have lots of Casino Dollars, I bet you $2000 that you will have another cigarette over the weekend.

That will make you NOT!! :D Thanks Boop. I don't play the casino and gave all my chips away a few weeks ago :wah: Now If you bet me that Kauto Star will lose at kempton on Boxing day, that would be serious :wah:
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oscar;1257765 wrote: Thanks Boop. I don't play the casino and gave all my chips away a few weeks ago :wah: Now If you bet me that Kauto Star will lose at kempton on Boxing day, that would be serious :wah:


I might stretch to a £1 :-3 not enough incentive there :wah:
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oscar;1257763 wrote: Can I ask you? Did your appitite Increase? I ballooned last time and had to lose two stone afterwards. :wah: I'm on a bloody diet as well because Pete has been put on a diet Incase he needs surgery. he's not overweight but the Doc Just wants him to lose a couple of stone.


Yes i ate like a pig!! im still trying to get the weight off:( its not too much ,, but just a bit too much if you know what i mean ,,, try drinking every other time you want to eat ,,, no not alcohol just a drink instead of eating;)




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kazalala;1257782 wrote: Yes i ate like a pig!! im still trying to get the weight off:( its not too much ,, but just a bit too much if you know what i mean ,,, try drinking every other time you want to eat ,,, no not alcohol just a drink instead of eating;) I don't drink alcohol at all except for Christmas but I was thinking of doing some fresh fruit smoothies in the Liquidiser as they can be very filling on the stomach. I had some Mango last night which was delish. I started putting Saccarin in my coffee and then read in the Daily Express last night that they can cause raised blood pressure. eeeeeeeeeeek :thinking:
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Good luck!

Glad you went on the patch, no cravings now, and you'll eat much better!:yh_rotfl
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Odie;1257811 wrote: Good luck!

Glad you went on the patch, no cravings now, and you'll eat much better!:yh_rotfl


Pete has done really well and not had a Cigg all day.

I've had 8 but that is 52 less than I usually have so I'm still pleased with myself. :driving::driving:
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oscar;1257959 wrote: Pete has done really well and not had a Cigg all day.

I've had 8 but that is 52 less than I usually have so I'm still pleased with myself. :driving::driving:


Happy for Peter!:-6

here's a treat for you!


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Odie;1257966 wrote: Happy for Peter!:-6

here's a treat for you!



That's Pete :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
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I hope you both manage to quit :-6
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oscar;1257973 wrote: That's Pete :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl


do you share?:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
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I am so sad to hear of Pete's news I never expected this! :(





oscar;1257959 wrote: Pete has done really well and not had a Cigg all day.



I've had 8 but that is 52 less than I usually have so I'm still pleased with myself. :driving::driving: Well done to both of you, My sis and her hubby haven't had a cig for 13 days thanks to the inhalator.

Be careful how many patches etc you use, remember, they are a replacement just to ease your cravings.

I've cut my mums cigs down to 5 a day, I hide them around her house and phone to tell her where one is, She's not a happy bunny. :wah:

The very best of luck to both of you :-6
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Julie,



In all honesty, the best way to give up smoking is by going 'cold turkey.'



You can do it, although it will be so hard.
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Kathy Ellen;1258063 wrote: Julie,



In all honesty, the best way to give up smoking is by going 'cold turkey.'



You can do it, although it will be so hard. Thankyou everyone for all the encouragement.

Pete is on day two and has not had one Cigg yet. I have had about 7 today in the tiolet with the extractor fan going as It's blowing a gale outside and raining hard.

Once this pack of ciggs is finished, that's It.... I'm not buying any more. :(:( But hey, I've got money in my purse :wah:
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oscar;1258179 wrote: Thankyou everyone for all the encouragement.



Pete is on day two and has not had one Cigg yet. I have had about 7 today in the tiolet with the extractor fan going as It's blowing a gale outside and raining hard.



Once this pack of ciggs is finished, that's It.... I'm not buying any more. :(:( But hey, I've got money in my purse :wah:




Take that money out of your purse you:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
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First time I gave up, (yes I know pathetic isn't it?)

I used to carry tobacco with me (Im a roller) just so I knew I could smoke if I wanted to but that I didn't want to.....reverse psychology.
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Bruv;1258250 wrote: First time I gave up, (yes I know pathetic isn't it?)

I used to carry tobacco with me (Im a roller) just so I knew I could smoke if I wanted to but that I didn't want to.....reverse psychology. I can Identify with that. I've got half a pack here next to me and it's strange knowing that I can have one any time I like. The patches seem to be working but they interfere with my sleep so I've had to up my prescription pills.
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oscar;1258258 wrote: I can Identify with that. I've got half a pack here next to me and it's strange knowing that I can have one any time I like. The patches seem to be working but they interfere with my sleep so I've had to up my prescription pills.


they can disrupt your sleep, some get dreams/nightmares.
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