Al Qaida and Mujahedeen
Bin Laden was an asset of CIA and was used to fight against Soviet Union in 80s. At that time Bin Laden's group was called as Majahideen. Qaida was used as a data base in communiction.
In early 90, when Soviet Union collapsed, US intelligence turned its resource on to Mid-east countries which are rich in oil resource, they revive the retired asset - Bin Laden. Bin Laden returned to Islamic world trying to provoke a conflict so that US could justify an interference and invasion.
On 2001, when US inside group had their puppet Bush to be the president, the war was ready. 911 was done to justify the war. To prevent people to link the "terror attack" with Islamic fannatic (Mujahedeen) and CIA, US intelligence then starts to use "Al Qaida" as "terrorist" group to justify the "war on terror". Since then, they blame every terror attack on "Al qaida". Al Qaida could be viewed as a group of special opratives commanded by US intelligence. Their mission is to activate false flag terror attack on civilians to justify US military action.
What Al Qaida did - bombing WTC, killing US civilians on 911, and bombing innocent civilians in Iraq, all targetted at ordinary people. It tarnished Islam as savage, inhuman, cruel. Who benefited? Who expanded the police power by Patriot Act? Who got fat budget? If you can answer these questions, then you know what is Al Qaida - a tool of US intelligence.
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Well, slightly fractured logic, but nice try!;)
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You certainly don't think that Bin Laden was the first "CIA Assest" to "turn on his handlers" do you?
Study up on Hussein, and Ho Chi Min, for starters.
Study up on Hussein, and Ho Chi Min, for starters.
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We've been visited by an internet legend. Really.
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Al Qaida (or most other terrrorist group) exists where US intelligence dominates. Al Qaida in US when Bush needs excuse to activate Mid-east war. That was 911 attack. Al Qaida is everywhere in Iraq to bomb innocent civilians when US occupies Iraq. Strange to say, under the Saddam regime, there was no Al Qaida. Al Qaida seems only exist where the regime being controlled by US. So we see no Al qaida in Syria and Iran. But they appear to attack ordinary people when the government either is controlled by US intelligence or supported by US intelligence. That's why you see Al Qaida attacks in US, in Afghanistan, in Pakistan, in Iraq (after it is occupied by US). Because where they are protected by the intelligence, worked as a whip to beat people. When government want money and power, they beat the people with this whip (Al Qaida terror attack) People feel hurt then give up their civil rights and money to the government. DOJ got the Patriot Act. Pentagon got fat budget and Mid-east war.
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Royd Fissure;1316473 wrote: We've been visited by an internet legend. Really.
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wasn't sully mulders partner on the xfiles?
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wasn't sully mulders partner on the xfiles?
I expressly forbid the use of any of my posts anywhere outside of FG (with the exception of the incredibly witty 'get a room already' )posted recently.
Folks who'd like to copy my intellectual work should expect to pay me for it.:-6
Folks who'd like to copy my intellectual work should expect to pay me for it.:-6
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Let's pretend that Bush is gone now... for the moment, at least.
You don't think perhaps that they are actually the puppets of Syria and Iran?
You don't think perhaps that they are actually the puppets of Syria and Iran?
I expressly forbid the use of any of my posts anywhere outside of FG (with the exception of the incredibly witty 'get a room already' )posted recently.
Folks who'd like to copy my intellectual work should expect to pay me for it.:-6
Folks who'd like to copy my intellectual work should expect to pay me for it.:-6
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flopstock;1321429 wrote: Let's pretend that Bush is gone now... for the moment, at least.
You don't think perhaps that they are actually the puppets of Syria and Iran?
As a matter of fact, Al Qaida was known only after 911 attack. Many didn't hear it before then. Even for Syria president Assadt.
Quote, "A norwegian professor believes al-Qaida is a Pentagon-fiction:
Feilmelding
Al Qaida exists where US intelligence dominate. Al Qaida in US when Bush need excuse to activate Mid-east war. That is 911 attack. Al Qaida is everywhere in Iraq now to bomb innocent civilians when US occupies Iraq. Strange to say, under the Saddam regime, there is no Al Qaida. Al Qaida seems only exist where the regime being controlled by US. So we see no Al qaida in Syria and Iran. No wonder Assad doubt it:
Syrias president questions the existence of al-Qaida:
May 26, 2003
«Syria Denies Existence of Al Qaeda»
«KUWAIT CITY (Talon News) -- Syrian President Bashar Assad revealed in a newspaper interview on Sunday that he does not believe there is a terrorist group called al Qaeda, the organization widely believed to be the perpetrators of the hijackings on September 11, 2001 as well as the recent attacks in Saudi Arabia and Morocco.»
«"Is there really an entity called al Qaeda? It was in Afghanistan, but is it there anymore?" Assad asked.»
«Assad speculated about the existence of al Qaeda and its notorious leader Usama bin Laden in a Kuwaiti newspaper called Al-Anba. »
«Nevertheless, questioning the existence of the al Qaeda terrorist network is very popular in Arab countries. Many people in these countries believe that the United States has hyperbolized the danger of al Qaeda as a means for portraying Muslims as violent and dangerous.»
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You don't think perhaps that they are actually the puppets of Syria and Iran?
As a matter of fact, Al Qaida was known only after 911 attack. Many didn't hear it before then. Even for Syria president Assadt.
Quote, "A norwegian professor believes al-Qaida is a Pentagon-fiction:
Feilmelding
Al Qaida exists where US intelligence dominate. Al Qaida in US when Bush need excuse to activate Mid-east war. That is 911 attack. Al Qaida is everywhere in Iraq now to bomb innocent civilians when US occupies Iraq. Strange to say, under the Saddam regime, there is no Al Qaida. Al Qaida seems only exist where the regime being controlled by US. So we see no Al qaida in Syria and Iran. No wonder Assad doubt it:
Syrias president questions the existence of al-Qaida:
May 26, 2003
«Syria Denies Existence of Al Qaeda»
«KUWAIT CITY (Talon News) -- Syrian President Bashar Assad revealed in a newspaper interview on Sunday that he does not believe there is a terrorist group called al Qaeda, the organization widely believed to be the perpetrators of the hijackings on September 11, 2001 as well as the recent attacks in Saudi Arabia and Morocco.»
«"Is there really an entity called al Qaeda? It was in Afghanistan, but is it there anymore?" Assad asked.»
«Assad speculated about the existence of al Qaeda and its notorious leader Usama bin Laden in a Kuwaiti newspaper called Al-Anba. »
«Nevertheless, questioning the existence of the al Qaeda terrorist network is very popular in Arab countries. Many people in these countries believe that the United States has hyperbolized the danger of al Qaeda as a means for portraying Muslims as violent and dangerous.»
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Quote, "Fictional Al Qaeda
Al Qaeda is nothing more than an extension of the operatus linked to US intelligence that was allowed, by script, to remove itself as a rogue break away entity of the US government, allowed to de-compartmentalise from oversight, and was run instead by Gary Best, rogue black ops specialists for scripted activity outside of the US Government, with its funding being orchestrated through the Pakistani secret police, an entity of the US Government itself.
-- Tom Heneghan, 2004 Presidential Candidate, American Patriot and Federal Whistleblower.
Al Qaeda is nothing more than an extension of the operatus linked to US intelligence that was allowed, by script, to remove itself as a rogue break away entity of the US government, allowed to de-compartmentalise from oversight, and was run instead by Gary Best, rogue black ops specialists for scripted activity outside of the US Government, with its funding being orchestrated through the Pakistani secret police, an entity of the US Government itself.
-- Tom Heneghan, 2004 Presidential Candidate, American Patriot and Federal Whistleblower.
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Oh definitely. The USA is the cause of everything bad that has ever happened, is happening and will ever happen anywhere in all the multiverse.
Ok. Now we've got that settled:
1) What should be done about it?
2) Have you anything else to say?
Ok. Now we've got that settled:
1) What should be done about it?
2) Have you anything else to say?
The crowd: "Yes! We are all individuals!"
Lone voice: "I'm not."
Lone voice: "I'm not."
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At least we can keep on reveal and demand the truth. That's what I'm doing now.
Fake Al Qaeda
BBC News - 12/8/2002
Officials from the Palestinian Authority have accused the Israeli spy agency Mossad of setting up a fake al-Qaeda terrorist cell in Gaza. Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat said that Israel had set up the mock cell in order to justify attacks in Palestinian areas.
BBC NEWS | Middle East | Israel says al-Qaeda active in Gaza
Fake Al Qaeda
Fake Al Qaeda
BBC News - 12/8/2002
Officials from the Palestinian Authority have accused the Israeli spy agency Mossad of setting up a fake al-Qaeda terrorist cell in Gaza. Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat said that Israel had set up the mock cell in order to justify attacks in Palestinian areas.
BBC NEWS | Middle East | Israel says al-Qaeda active in Gaza
Fake Al Qaeda
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Unraveling the Myth of Al Qaida
By Peter Chamberlin 13 Jan 2008
The myth of "al Qaida" is built on an expansive foundation of many half-truths and hidden facts. It is a CIA creation... In order to explain away the billions of dollars worth of weapons and training that went into the operation, they chose a rich jihadi, a Saudi millionaire named Osama bin Laden, who had been a faithful recruiter and business agent of the Mujahedeen. He was painted as the sole financier of the entire enormous operation that was centered in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Bin Laden may not even have known that he was playing a part in a deceitful CIA global drama until after the fact.
Article continues--
Unraveling the Myth of Al Qaida
By Peter Chamberlin 13 Jan 2008
The myth of "al Qaida" is built on an expansive foundation of many half-truths and hidden facts. It is a CIA creation... In order to explain away the billions of dollars worth of weapons and training that went into the operation, they chose a rich jihadi, a Saudi millionaire named Osama bin Laden, who had been a faithful recruiter and business agent of the Mujahedeen. He was painted as the sole financier of the entire enormous operation that was centered in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Bin Laden may not even have known that he was playing a part in a deceitful CIA global drama until after the fact.
Article continues--
Unraveling the Myth of Al Qaida
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US fight against phantom? A Bin Laden in legend but US can never touch a hair of him. A WMD in Bush's mouth but can never been found. Government always put a target there so they can squeeze money and power from people. Al Qaida becomes an universal excuse. Here is another phantom.
2.3. 07.07.18. Leader of Al Qaeda group in Iraq was fictional, U.S. military says
By Michael R. Gordon
Published: July 18, 2007
BAGHDAD: For more than a year, the leader of one the most notorious insurgent groups in Iraq was said to be a mysterious Iraqi named Abdullah Rashid al-Baghdadi.
As the titular head of the Islamic State in Iraq, an organization publicly backed by Al Qaeda, Baghdadi issued a steady stream of incendiary pronouncements. Despite claims by Iraqi officials that he had been killed in May, Baghdadi appeared to have persevered unscathed.
On Wednesday, a senior American military spokesman provided a new explanation for Baghdadi's ability to escape attack: He never existed.
Brigadier General Kevin Bergner, the chief American military spokesman, said the elusive Baghdadi was actually a fictional character whose audio-taped declarations were provided by an elderly actor named Abu Adullah al-Naima.
"First, they say we have killed him," Riedel said, referring to the statements by some Iraqi government officials. "Then we heard him after his death and now they are saying he never existed. That suggests that our intelligence on Al Qaeda in Iraq is not what we want it to be."
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2.3. 07.07.18. Leader of Al Qaeda group in Iraq was fictional, U.S. military says
By Michael R. Gordon
Published: July 18, 2007
BAGHDAD: For more than a year, the leader of one the most notorious insurgent groups in Iraq was said to be a mysterious Iraqi named Abdullah Rashid al-Baghdadi.
As the titular head of the Islamic State in Iraq, an organization publicly backed by Al Qaeda, Baghdadi issued a steady stream of incendiary pronouncements. Despite claims by Iraqi officials that he had been killed in May, Baghdadi appeared to have persevered unscathed.
On Wednesday, a senior American military spokesman provided a new explanation for Baghdadi's ability to escape attack: He never existed.
Brigadier General Kevin Bergner, the chief American military spokesman, said the elusive Baghdadi was actually a fictional character whose audio-taped declarations were provided by an elderly actor named Abu Adullah al-Naima.
"First, they say we have killed him," Riedel said, referring to the statements by some Iraqi government officials. "Then we heard him after his death and now they are saying he never existed. That suggests that our intelligence on Al Qaeda in Iraq is not what we want it to be."
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kathaksung;1337343 wrote: . It is a CIA creation...
Well DUH! Did you just you just figure that out?
In order to explain away the billions of dollars worth of weapons and training that went into the operation,
Nope, we did it to steal your oil ...and it worked too. We'll suck your part of the world dry and there's not a whole lot you can do about it other than blowing yourselves up occasionally. So suck it up. You belong to us.
Well DUH! Did you just you just figure that out?
In order to explain away the billions of dollars worth of weapons and training that went into the operation,
Nope, we did it to steal your oil ...and it worked too. We'll suck your part of the world dry and there's not a whole lot you can do about it other than blowing yourselves up occasionally. So suck it up. You belong to us.
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Al Qaeda does not exist and never has
8/19/2004
The basic truth is that Al Qaeda does not exist and never has. Al Qaeda is a manufactured enemy who was created by the Bush Administration in order to have an excuse to wage a war for the control of the world's oil resources.
Did an American even hear the words "Al Qaeda" before 9-11? Or were we told that its alleged leader Osama Bin Laden has family who themselves have personal business relationships with George W. Bush's family and that both families had financially profited conside
Mis-typed address or a page does not exist.
8/19/2004
The basic truth is that Al Qaeda does not exist and never has. Al Qaeda is a manufactured enemy who was created by the Bush Administration in order to have an excuse to wage a war for the control of the world's oil resources.
Did an American even hear the words "Al Qaeda" before 9-11? Or were we told that its alleged leader Osama Bin Laden has family who themselves have personal business relationships with George W. Bush's family and that both families had financially profited conside
Mis-typed address or a page does not exist.
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Top Ranking CIA Operatives Admit Al-qaeda Is a Complete Fabrication
3/8/2008
'In the BBC's killer documentary called The Power of Nightmares, top CIA officials openly admit, Al-Qaeda is a total and complete fabrication, never having existed at any time. The Bush administration needed a reason that complied with the Laws so they could go after the bad guy of their choice?namely laws that had been set in place to protect us from mobs and 揷riminal organizations?such as the Mafia. They paid Jamal al Fadl, hundred's of thousands of dollars to back the U.S. Governments story of Al-qaeda a group?or criminal organization they could legally?go after.'
Watch video here:
C.I.A. no al-qaeda ever existed - BBC documentary "the power of nightmares" | Polidics.com
3/8/2008
'In the BBC's killer documentary called The Power of Nightmares, top CIA officials openly admit, Al-Qaeda is a total and complete fabrication, never having existed at any time. The Bush administration needed a reason that complied with the Laws so they could go after the bad guy of their choice?namely laws that had been set in place to protect us from mobs and 揷riminal organizations?such as the Mafia. They paid Jamal al Fadl, hundred's of thousands of dollars to back the U.S. Governments story of Al-qaeda a group?or criminal organization they could legally?go after.'
Watch video here:
C.I.A. no al-qaeda ever existed - BBC documentary "the power of nightmares" | Polidics.com
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Those who told truth about Al Qaida, were silenced by "natural disease". Because intelligence don't want others know Terrorist is its tool to control people.
There Is No 'Al Qaeda' - Ex UK Foreign Secretary
12-22-8
"The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the 'devil' only in order to drive the TV watcher to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the US . . ."
-- Former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook
Robin Cook died in August 2005 of a severe heart attack while mountain climbing in Scotland.
Wikipedia wrote:Robert Finlayson Cook (28 February 1946 - 6 August 2005), better known as Robin Cook, was a politician in the British Labour Party. He was Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs of the United Kingdom from 1997 to 2001. He resigned from his post as Leader of the House of Commons and Lord President of the Council on 17 March 2003 in protest against the 2003 invasion of Iraq. At the time of his death he was president of the Foreign Policy Centre and a vice-president of the America All Party Parliamentary Group and the Global Security and Non-Proliferation All Party Parliamentary Group...
In a column for the Guardian four weeks before his death, Cook caused a stir when he described Al-Qaeda as a product of a western intelligence:
?Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians.[13] ?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... &aid=11487
There Is No 'Al Qaeda' - Ex UK Foreign Secretary
12-22-8
"The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the 'devil' only in order to drive the TV watcher to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the US . . ."
-- Former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook
Robin Cook died in August 2005 of a severe heart attack while mountain climbing in Scotland.
Wikipedia wrote:Robert Finlayson Cook (28 February 1946 - 6 August 2005), better known as Robin Cook, was a politician in the British Labour Party. He was Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs of the United Kingdom from 1997 to 2001. He resigned from his post as Leader of the House of Commons and Lord President of the Council on 17 March 2003 in protest against the 2003 invasion of Iraq. At the time of his death he was president of the Foreign Policy Centre and a vice-president of the America All Party Parliamentary Group and the Global Security and Non-Proliferation All Party Parliamentary Group...
In a column for the Guardian four weeks before his death, Cook caused a stir when he described Al-Qaeda as a product of a western intelligence:
?Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians.[13] ?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... &aid=11487
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It's a western made.
Quote:
Al Qaeda in Yemen is "Western-made"
Declaration of Yemeni Prime Minister
Global Research, November 7, 2010
Yemeni Prime Minister Ali Muhammed al-Mujawar said Saturday that al-Qaida was originally a Western-made group and was never created by his country, Xinhua reported according to the state-run Saba news agency.
The prime minister's remarks were made during a meeting in the capital Sanaa with ambassadors of Asian and African countries to Yemen to clarify Yemen's stance against those who propagated negative impacts on Yemen over the bomb parcels shipped to the United States last week.
"Al-Qaida was essentially a Western-made group and was never created by Yemen, it is alleged by those who seek to propagate this view internationally about Yemen," Saba quoted Mujawar as saying.
The Yemen-based al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) on Friday claimed responsibility for the bomb parcels that targeted the United States.
Quote:
Al Qaeda in Yemen is "Western-made"
Declaration of Yemeni Prime Minister
Global Research, November 7, 2010
Yemeni Prime Minister Ali Muhammed al-Mujawar said Saturday that al-Qaida was originally a Western-made group and was never created by his country, Xinhua reported according to the state-run Saba news agency.
The prime minister's remarks were made during a meeting in the capital Sanaa with ambassadors of Asian and African countries to Yemen to clarify Yemen's stance against those who propagated negative impacts on Yemen over the bomb parcels shipped to the United States last week.
"Al-Qaida was essentially a Western-made group and was never created by Yemen, it is alleged by those who seek to propagate this view internationally about Yemen," Saba quoted Mujawar as saying.
The Yemen-based al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) on Friday claimed responsibility for the bomb parcels that targeted the United States.
Al Qaeda is US puppet
Could be just like that junk yard dog that turns on it's master for bad treatment.
Al Qaeda is US puppet
When a "dirty bomb" attack takes place in US and a war on Iran is justified, don't forget the source is from the US itself.
"CIA spy" Davis was giving nuclear bomb material to Al-Qaeda, says report
By ANI | ANI – Sun, Feb 20,
London, Feb 20(ANI): Double murder-accused US official Raymond Davis has been found in possession of top-secret CIA documents, which point to him or the feared American Task Force 373 (TF373) operating in the region, providing Al-Qaeda terrorists with "nuclear fissile material" and "biological agents," according to a report.
"CIA spy" Davis was giving nuclear bomb material to Al-Qaeda, says report
By ANI | ANI – Sun, Feb 20,
London, Feb 20(ANI): Double murder-accused US official Raymond Davis has been found in possession of top-secret CIA documents, which point to him or the feared American Task Force 373 (TF373) operating in the region, providing Al-Qaeda terrorists with "nuclear fissile material" and "biological agents," according to a report.
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katsung47;1357349 wrote: When a "dirty bomb" attack takes place in US and a war on Iran is justified, don't forget the source is from the US itself.
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Nice try. Anyone who attacks innocent women and children is a coward and a disgrace before God. Any God. If you think you have to use violence to support your cause, then your cause was never just to begin with.
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Nice try. Anyone who attacks innocent women and children is a coward and a disgrace before God. Any God. If you think you have to use violence to support your cause, then your cause was never just to begin with.
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Saint_;1357416 wrote: Nice try. Anyone who attacks innocent women and children is a coward and a disgrace before God. Any God. If you think you have to use violence to support your cause, then your cause was never just to begin with.
Methinks you've misread the claim. Whilst many dislike Obama I don't think there are many who would seriously claim that he would authorise the use of a dirty bomb on US soil just to justify going to war with Iran.
Methinks you've misread the claim. Whilst many dislike Obama I don't think there are many who would seriously claim that he would authorise the use of a dirty bomb on US soil just to justify going to war with Iran.
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Bryn Mawr;1357775 wrote: Methinks you've misread the claim. Whilst many dislike Obama I don't think there are many who would seriously claim that he would authorise the use of a dirty bomb on US soil just to justify going to war with Iran.
While many dislike Bush, he after all authorise the 911 attack for Mid-east war. He was awarded for second term.
While many dislike Bush, he after all authorise the 911 attack for Mid-east war. He was awarded for second term.
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katsung47;1357838 wrote: While many dislike Bush, he after all authorise the 911 attack for Mid-east war. He was awarded for second term.
Whilst that might be suspected, have you any evidence to make it a statement of fact as you have?
If not, kindly withdraw it.
Whilst that might be suspected, have you any evidence to make it a statement of fact as you have?
If not, kindly withdraw it.
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Bryn Mawr;1357839 wrote: Whilst that might be suspected, have you any evidence to make it a statement of fact as you have?
If not, kindly withdraw it.
Is this a court or discussion board? With your standard, Donald Trump and his birther's troop are not able to exist in the Internet world.
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Bin Laden is a living plant.
In 1990, Soviet bloc collapsed. US intelligence turned its resource which used to deal with Soviet bloc to the new target - Mid-east countries which are rich in natural resource. Bin Laden, an asset of the CIA in Afghanistan war(against Russian), was revived in this new project as a false flag - Islamic extremist. He went to Sudan first in 1991.
The Sudanese offered to arrest Bin Laden and extradite him to Saudi Arabia .
Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize
Saudi and US didn't take the offer with various excuse because Bin Laden is a living plant they deployed there.
In 1995, Bin Laden tried to set up a connection with Saddam but was refused.
Exhaustive review finds no link between Saddam, al Qaida
A September 2006 report by the Senate Intelligence Committee concluded that Saddam was "distrustful of al Qaida and viewed Islamic extremists as a threat to his regime, refusing all requests from al Qaida to provide material or operational support."
The Senate report, citing an FBI debriefing of a senior Iraqi spy, Faruq Hijazi , said that Saddam turned down a request for assistance by bin Laden which he made at a 1995 meeting in Sudan with an Iraqi operative.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20080 ... hy/2875005
Sudan may have felt the danger to accomodate Bin Laden. In May 1996, the Sudanese asked bin Laden to leave. He went to Afghan and stay there until now.
In August 1998, Sudan and Afghanistan were bombed by US missiles.
In 2001, after 911, Afghan, facing US invasion, made an offer but failed.
Bush rejects Taliban offer to hand Bin Laden over
* Taliban demand evidence of Bin Laden's guilt
guardian.co.uk, Sunday 14 October 2001 22.19 BST
Remember Osama?
In Bin Laden's recent 20 years, the countries he went or tried to go, have something in common: They all have rich natural resources. Sudan and Iraq have oil. Afghan has rich mine. '
Afghanistan to develop $3 trillion in mining potential
DUBAI | Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:14pm
Afghanistan to develop $3 trillion in mining potential | Reuters
He didn't go to Yemen, Somali or Syria for his "revolution" because they are resource poor countries, not in US interest list. He didn't go to Saudi or Kuwait. Because they are US allies. He only went to Sudan, Afghan, or Iraq (intended to) because these three countries were not controlled by US at that time. As a living plant, he gave US the excuse to activate attack on these three countries. (Even Saddam realized that Bin Laden was a dangerous living plant and rejected him, Iraq at last was invaded with an unexisted WMD)
If not, kindly withdraw it.
Is this a court or discussion board? With your standard, Donald Trump and his birther's troop are not able to exist in the Internet world.
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Bin Laden is a living plant.
In 1990, Soviet bloc collapsed. US intelligence turned its resource which used to deal with Soviet bloc to the new target - Mid-east countries which are rich in natural resource. Bin Laden, an asset of the CIA in Afghanistan war(against Russian), was revived in this new project as a false flag - Islamic extremist. He went to Sudan first in 1991.
The Sudanese offered to arrest Bin Laden and extradite him to Saudi Arabia .
Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize
Saudi and US didn't take the offer with various excuse because Bin Laden is a living plant they deployed there.
In 1995, Bin Laden tried to set up a connection with Saddam but was refused.
Exhaustive review finds no link between Saddam, al Qaida
A September 2006 report by the Senate Intelligence Committee concluded that Saddam was "distrustful of al Qaida and viewed Islamic extremists as a threat to his regime, refusing all requests from al Qaida to provide material or operational support."
The Senate report, citing an FBI debriefing of a senior Iraqi spy, Faruq Hijazi , said that Saddam turned down a request for assistance by bin Laden which he made at a 1995 meeting in Sudan with an Iraqi operative.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20080 ... hy/2875005
Sudan may have felt the danger to accomodate Bin Laden. In May 1996, the Sudanese asked bin Laden to leave. He went to Afghan and stay there until now.
In August 1998, Sudan and Afghanistan were bombed by US missiles.
In 2001, after 911, Afghan, facing US invasion, made an offer but failed.
Bush rejects Taliban offer to hand Bin Laden over
* Taliban demand evidence of Bin Laden's guilt
guardian.co.uk, Sunday 14 October 2001 22.19 BST
Remember Osama?
In Bin Laden's recent 20 years, the countries he went or tried to go, have something in common: They all have rich natural resources. Sudan and Iraq have oil. Afghan has rich mine. '
Afghanistan to develop $3 trillion in mining potential
DUBAI | Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:14pm
Afghanistan to develop $3 trillion in mining potential | Reuters
He didn't go to Yemen, Somali or Syria for his "revolution" because they are resource poor countries, not in US interest list. He didn't go to Saudi or Kuwait. Because they are US allies. He only went to Sudan, Afghan, or Iraq (intended to) because these three countries were not controlled by US at that time. As a living plant, he gave US the excuse to activate attack on these three countries. (Even Saddam realized that Bin Laden was a dangerous living plant and rejected him, Iraq at last was invaded with an unexisted WMD)
Al Qaeda is US puppet
katsung47;1358275 wrote: Is this a court or discussion board? With your standard, Donald Trump and his birther's troop are not able to exist in the Internet world.
So it that your reasoning? That on a discussion board you can say anything you like without having to back it up when asked? that's not discussion, that's anarchy. In a discussion you deal in facts and, when challenged, need to back up those facts or lose credibility for everything else you say.
No, it is not a court of law, no-one is going to jail or to be fined as a result of it - all you can lose is you reputation.
So it that your reasoning? That on a discussion board you can say anything you like without having to back it up when asked? that's not discussion, that's anarchy. In a discussion you deal in facts and, when challenged, need to back up those facts or lose credibility for everything else you say.
No, it is not a court of law, no-one is going to jail or to be fined as a result of it - all you can lose is you reputation.
Al Qaeda is US puppet
katsung47;1358275 wrote:
In Bin Laden's recent 20 years, the countries he went or tried to go, have something in common: They all have rich natural resources. Sudan and Iraq have oil. Afghan has rich mine. '
He didn't go to Yemen, Somali or Syria for his "revolution" because they are resource poor countries, not in US interest list. He didn't go to Saudi or Kuwait. Because they are US allies. He only went to Sudan, Afghan, or Iraq (intended to) because these three countries were not controlled by US at that time. As a living plant, he gave US the excuse to activate attack on these three countries. (Even Saddam realized that Bin Laden was a dangerous living plant and rejected him, Iraq at last was invaded with an unexisted WMD)
Only one problem with this, when OBL went to Sudan they didn't have any oil - their oil industry didn't start until several years after he'd left. At best it's small fry - their peak production is half that of the UK and their reserves almost non-existent but for a resource poor country like Sudan it's a source of foreign currency that they desperately need.
In Bin Laden's recent 20 years, the countries he went or tried to go, have something in common: They all have rich natural resources. Sudan and Iraq have oil. Afghan has rich mine. '
He didn't go to Yemen, Somali or Syria for his "revolution" because they are resource poor countries, not in US interest list. He didn't go to Saudi or Kuwait. Because they are US allies. He only went to Sudan, Afghan, or Iraq (intended to) because these three countries were not controlled by US at that time. As a living plant, he gave US the excuse to activate attack on these three countries. (Even Saddam realized that Bin Laden was a dangerous living plant and rejected him, Iraq at last was invaded with an unexisted WMD)
Only one problem with this, when OBL went to Sudan they didn't have any oil - their oil industry didn't start until several years after he'd left. At best it's small fry - their peak production is half that of the UK and their reserves almost non-existent but for a resource poor country like Sudan it's a source of foreign currency that they desperately need.
Al Qaeda is US puppet
Bryn Mawr;1358279 wrote: So it that your reasoning? That on a discussion board you can say anything you like without having to back it up when asked? that's not discussion, that's anarchy. In a discussion you deal in facts and, when challenged, need to back up those facts or lose credibility for everything else you say.
No, it is not a court of law, no-one is going to jail or to be fined as a result of it - all you can lose is you reputation.
I used to list the truth and put my opinion on them. It's you kept asking for evidence, make it like a court.
Whilst that might be suspected, have you any evidence to make it a statement of fact as you have?
If not, kindly withdraw it.
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Bin Laden's death is another trick
When people chanting for the news of Bin Laden's death, I have a sad feeling how ignorant people are cheated by this government. I also worry we may face a big "terror attack" planned by this government.
1. Since 911, I don't believe this government anymore. It is hijacked by a group of insiders. If they can cheat people with 911 such a big attack, what else can't they do? For those who insist to tarnish 911 truthers, one thing they can't deny is the "WMD" lie which justified war on Iraq. That's a big lie because it caused large civilian's casualty. Yet, that lie was neglected. The lier was awarded a second term of President because the inside group wants another war - Iran war. Bin Laden's death is only another soap opera - same like the death of Al Zarqawi. (so said Iraq Al Qaida)
2. There is a strategy purpose of Bin Laden's death - to justify a coming dirty bomb attack. The intelligence always arrange "provocative actions" to make the false flag terror attack reasonable. That was what we saw a month ago the "Quran burning" in Florida and the "veil ban" law passed in French. "Bin Laden's death" is a big one they push out today which indicates a big terror attack is going to happen recently.
3.It's a continuation of a series "nuclear crisis (bombing)" attempt since later last year. (see my posts from #651) You may verify it from rare report news. (not from US media)
GORDON DUFF: NYC DIRTY BOMB “DRILL” – LARGEST IN NATIONAL HISTORY…IS IT A DRILL?
April 6, 2011 posted by Gordon Duff
CENSORED TERROR “DRILL” MOST COSTLY IN HISTORY
“More checkpoints per square mile than Baghdad”
By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor
Busloads of police were brought into New York, some from distant communities. The national press, generously called the “mainstream media” reported none of this today. There was a defacto news blackout about the scale and nature of what is happening in New York City today.
............
The story in New York is that the city is testing its capability of detecting a “dirty bomb” or other “radiological device.” At a time when most municipalities are flat broke, busted, New York is spending an unprecedented amount, in what is said to be a drill. The city is hunting four “imaginary terror groups.”
GORDON DUFF: NYC DIRTY BOMB “DRILL” – LARGEST IN NATIONAL HISTORY…IS IT A DRILL? : Veterans Today
US tornadoes force shutdown of two nuclear reactors in Virginia
Ewen MacAskill in Washington
guardian.co.uk, Monday 18 April 2011
A US nuclear power company has disclosed that one of the tornadoes that hit the US at the weekend, killing at least 45 people and causing widespread damage, forced the shutdown of two of its reactors.
The series of tornadoes that began in Oklahoma late last week barrelled across the country, with North Carolina, where 22 people died, the worst-hit state.
US tornadoes force shutdown of two nuclear reactors in Virginia | World news | The Guardian
Nine days later, on 4/27 there was an unprecedentary tornado storms attacked East side of America. Scientists suggested "some of the tornadoes may have been among the largest and most powerful ever recorded. " "2011 Tornado Outbreak Death Toll Hits 337, Second-Deadliest Day From Twister In U.S. History".
On 3/11, Japan suffered an earthquake biggest ever in its history. On 4/27, US suffered a largest and most powerful ever recorded tornado storms. When both failed to produce a nuclear pollution crisis in US, the Feds activates Bin Laden. Beware of a coming "nuclear bomb attack". (Or dirty bomb attack)
No, it is not a court of law, no-one is going to jail or to be fined as a result of it - all you can lose is you reputation.
I used to list the truth and put my opinion on them. It's you kept asking for evidence, make it like a court.
Whilst that might be suspected, have you any evidence to make it a statement of fact as you have?
If not, kindly withdraw it.
-------------------
Bin Laden's death is another trick
When people chanting for the news of Bin Laden's death, I have a sad feeling how ignorant people are cheated by this government. I also worry we may face a big "terror attack" planned by this government.
1. Since 911, I don't believe this government anymore. It is hijacked by a group of insiders. If they can cheat people with 911 such a big attack, what else can't they do? For those who insist to tarnish 911 truthers, one thing they can't deny is the "WMD" lie which justified war on Iraq. That's a big lie because it caused large civilian's casualty. Yet, that lie was neglected. The lier was awarded a second term of President because the inside group wants another war - Iran war. Bin Laden's death is only another soap opera - same like the death of Al Zarqawi. (so said Iraq Al Qaida)
2. There is a strategy purpose of Bin Laden's death - to justify a coming dirty bomb attack. The intelligence always arrange "provocative actions" to make the false flag terror attack reasonable. That was what we saw a month ago the "Quran burning" in Florida and the "veil ban" law passed in French. "Bin Laden's death" is a big one they push out today which indicates a big terror attack is going to happen recently.
3.It's a continuation of a series "nuclear crisis (bombing)" attempt since later last year. (see my posts from #651) You may verify it from rare report news. (not from US media)
GORDON DUFF: NYC DIRTY BOMB “DRILL” – LARGEST IN NATIONAL HISTORY…IS IT A DRILL?
April 6, 2011 posted by Gordon Duff
CENSORED TERROR “DRILL” MOST COSTLY IN HISTORY
“More checkpoints per square mile than Baghdad”
By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor
Busloads of police were brought into New York, some from distant communities. The national press, generously called the “mainstream media” reported none of this today. There was a defacto news blackout about the scale and nature of what is happening in New York City today.
............
The story in New York is that the city is testing its capability of detecting a “dirty bomb” or other “radiological device.” At a time when most municipalities are flat broke, busted, New York is spending an unprecedented amount, in what is said to be a drill. The city is hunting four “imaginary terror groups.”
GORDON DUFF: NYC DIRTY BOMB “DRILL” – LARGEST IN NATIONAL HISTORY…IS IT A DRILL? : Veterans Today
US tornadoes force shutdown of two nuclear reactors in Virginia
Ewen MacAskill in Washington
guardian.co.uk, Monday 18 April 2011
A US nuclear power company has disclosed that one of the tornadoes that hit the US at the weekend, killing at least 45 people and causing widespread damage, forced the shutdown of two of its reactors.
The series of tornadoes that began in Oklahoma late last week barrelled across the country, with North Carolina, where 22 people died, the worst-hit state.
US tornadoes force shutdown of two nuclear reactors in Virginia | World news | The Guardian
Nine days later, on 4/27 there was an unprecedentary tornado storms attacked East side of America. Scientists suggested "some of the tornadoes may have been among the largest and most powerful ever recorded. " "2011 Tornado Outbreak Death Toll Hits 337, Second-Deadliest Day From Twister In U.S. History".
On 3/11, Japan suffered an earthquake biggest ever in its history. On 4/27, US suffered a largest and most powerful ever recorded tornado storms. When both failed to produce a nuclear pollution crisis in US, the Feds activates Bin Laden. Beware of a coming "nuclear bomb attack". (Or dirty bomb attack)
Al Qaeda is US puppet
katsung47;1359030 wrote:
Nine days later, on 4/27 there was an unprecedentary tornado storms attacked East side of America. Scientists suggested "some of the tornadoes may have been among the largest and most powerful ever recorded. " "2011 Tornado Outbreak Death Toll Hits 337, Second-Deadliest Day From Twister In U.S. History".
On 3/11, Japan suffered an earthquake biggest ever in its history. On 4/27, US suffered a largest and most powerful ever recorded tornado storms. When both failed to produce a nuclear pollution crisis in US, the Feds activates Bin Laden. Beware of a coming "nuclear bomb attack". (Or dirty bomb attack)
Oh...ROFLMAO!! Are you kidding me? Are you now implying that the U.S. Government can control the weather and cause earthquakes and tsunamis? Well, with that kind of power, why not just turn all our enemies into pillars of salt?
You can't honestly believe anything you're saying and be sane. If you actually do believe that...get some psychiatric help soon.
Nine days later, on 4/27 there was an unprecedentary tornado storms attacked East side of America. Scientists suggested "some of the tornadoes may have been among the largest and most powerful ever recorded. " "2011 Tornado Outbreak Death Toll Hits 337, Second-Deadliest Day From Twister In U.S. History".
On 3/11, Japan suffered an earthquake biggest ever in its history. On 4/27, US suffered a largest and most powerful ever recorded tornado storms. When both failed to produce a nuclear pollution crisis in US, the Feds activates Bin Laden. Beware of a coming "nuclear bomb attack". (Or dirty bomb attack)
Oh...ROFLMAO!! Are you kidding me? Are you now implying that the U.S. Government can control the weather and cause earthquakes and tsunamis? Well, with that kind of power, why not just turn all our enemies into pillars of salt?
You can't honestly believe anything you're saying and be sane. If you actually do believe that...get some psychiatric help soon.
Al Qaeda is US puppet
Saint_;1359132 wrote: Oh...ROFLMAO!! Are you kidding me? Are you now implying that the U.S. Government can control the weather and cause earthquakes and tsunamis? Well, with that kind of power, why not just turn all our enemies into pillars of salt?
You can't honestly believe anything you're saying and be sane. If you actually do believe that...get some psychiatric help soon.It's no more ridiculous than believing that there is a super invisible something or other who created life and is micro managing each person's existence. Now, that's funny.
In fact, katsung47's theory, as silly as it may sound, is more plausible than that which includes the existence of a God. So, before you roll on the floor and laugh your ass off, remember you're laughing at yourself too.
Everything happens for a reason, doesn't it.
You can't honestly believe anything you're saying and be sane. If you actually do believe that...get some psychiatric help soon.It's no more ridiculous than believing that there is a super invisible something or other who created life and is micro managing each person's existence. Now, that's funny.
In fact, katsung47's theory, as silly as it may sound, is more plausible than that which includes the existence of a God. So, before you roll on the floor and laugh your ass off, remember you're laughing at yourself too.
Everything happens for a reason, doesn't it.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities,â€
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
Fiona Apple
Al Qaeda is US puppet
Saint_;1359132 wrote: Oh...ROFLMAO!! Are you kidding me? Are you now implying that the U.S. Government can control the weather and cause earthquakes and tsunamis? Well, with that kind of power, why not just turn all our enemies into pillars of salt?
You can't honestly believe anything you're saying and be sane. If you actually do believe that...get some psychiatric help soon.
For ignorant people.
DoD News Briefing: Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen
April 28, 1997
.... and others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops. Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.
So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important.
Defense.gov News Transcript: DoD News Briefing: Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen
You can't honestly believe anything you're saying and be sane. If you actually do believe that...get some psychiatric help soon.
For ignorant people.
DoD News Briefing: Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen
April 28, 1997
.... and others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops. Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.
So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important.
Defense.gov News Transcript: DoD News Briefing: Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen
Al Qaeda is US puppet
katsung47;1363800 wrote: For ignorant people.
The fact that some military geek claimed it whilst trying to talk up his budget does not make it true you know :wah:
The fact that some military geek claimed it whilst trying to talk up his budget does not make it true you know :wah:
Al Qaeda is US puppet
Bryn Mawr;1363857 wrote: The fact that some military geek claimed it whilst trying to talk up his budget does not make it true you know :wah:
If a Secretary of Defense became a military geek, then what are you? It's interesting to see how would you comment a State Secretary.
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Clinton admits the U.S government created and funded Al-Qaeda? TubeTruthers.com
If a Secretary of Defense became a military geek, then what are you? It's interesting to see how would you comment a State Secretary.
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Clinton admits the U.S government created and funded Al-Qaeda? TubeTruthers.com
Al Qaeda is US puppet
katsung47;1365070 wrote: If a Secretary of Defense became a military geek, then what are you? It's interesting to see how would you comment a State Secretary.
What is his background? Does that make him more or less likely to be influenced by the Military lobby? As a politician who's position and influence depend on the size of the military budget is he likely to downplay the abilities of America's enemies?
What is his background? Does that make him more or less likely to be influenced by the Military lobby? As a politician who's position and influence depend on the size of the military budget is he likely to downplay the abilities of America's enemies?
Al Qaeda is US puppet
Bryn Mawr;1365221 wrote: What is his background? Does that make him more or less likely to be influenced by the Military lobby? As a politician who's position and influence depend on the size of the military budget is he likely to downplay the abilities of America's enemies?
Would you please tell us what is your back ground before you comment on others? Would that be easy to recruited as a Swift boat team member? Anyway, there is only one defense Secretary or Secretary of State. They are more easily to access important events than common people, aren't they?
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Formation Of Al Qaida: US-Israel Collaboration
Posted on 30. Jul, 2010 by Raja Mujtaba in World News
SPECIAL REPORT: The top secret Israeli-US program to establish “Al Qaeda”
By Wayne Madsen
Press clips gathered by the CIA and discovered in the National Archives’ stored CIA files point to an agency keenly interested in any leaks about the highly-classified CIA-Mossad program to establish Osama Bin Laden and the most radical elements of the Afghan Mujahidin as the primary leaders of the anti-Soviet rebels in the 1980s.
WMR has pored through the CIA files and a complicated picture emerges of America’s and Israel’s top intelligence agencies, in cahoots with Saudi Arabia, establishing financial links and carve out intelligence programs to provide manpower and financial support to Bin Laden and his allies in Afghanistan. It was these very elements that later created the so-called “Al Qaeda,” which the late British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook described as nothing more than a “database” of CIA front organizations, financial supporters, and field operatives. However, one component omitted by Cook in the Al Qaeda construct is the Israeli participation.
Formation Of Al Qaida: US-Israel Collaboration | Opinion Maker
"We don't know what to do about terrorists...
but we've got a good military and we can take down governments."
As told by a Pentagon official to Gen. Wesley Clark a few days after 9-11-2001.
And from the same source a few weeks later, relating a memo from upstairs (Secretary of Defense):
"We're going to take down seven countries in five years - starting with Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran."
Would you please tell us what is your back ground before you comment on others? Would that be easy to recruited as a Swift boat team member? Anyway, there is only one defense Secretary or Secretary of State. They are more easily to access important events than common people, aren't they?
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Formation Of Al Qaida: US-Israel Collaboration
Posted on 30. Jul, 2010 by Raja Mujtaba in World News
SPECIAL REPORT: The top secret Israeli-US program to establish “Al Qaeda”
By Wayne Madsen
Press clips gathered by the CIA and discovered in the National Archives’ stored CIA files point to an agency keenly interested in any leaks about the highly-classified CIA-Mossad program to establish Osama Bin Laden and the most radical elements of the Afghan Mujahidin as the primary leaders of the anti-Soviet rebels in the 1980s.
WMR has pored through the CIA files and a complicated picture emerges of America’s and Israel’s top intelligence agencies, in cahoots with Saudi Arabia, establishing financial links and carve out intelligence programs to provide manpower and financial support to Bin Laden and his allies in Afghanistan. It was these very elements that later created the so-called “Al Qaeda,” which the late British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook described as nothing more than a “database” of CIA front organizations, financial supporters, and field operatives. However, one component omitted by Cook in the Al Qaeda construct is the Israeli participation.
Formation Of Al Qaida: US-Israel Collaboration | Opinion Maker
"We don't know what to do about terrorists...
but we've got a good military and we can take down governments."
As told by a Pentagon official to Gen. Wesley Clark a few days after 9-11-2001.
And from the same source a few weeks later, relating a memo from upstairs (Secretary of Defense):
"We're going to take down seven countries in five years - starting with Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran."
Al Qaeda is US puppet
katsung47;1367028 wrote: Would you please tell us what is your back ground before you comment on others? Would that be easy to recruited as a Swift boat team member? Anyway, there is only one defense Secretary or Secretary of State. They are more easily to access important events than common people, aren't they?
I am not in a position to influence defence spending so my background is irrelevant, given that he comes fairly directly out of the military establishment his background is germane as the second question highlighted.
The third question was the one that really needs to be addressed and was the point of my post. Care to have a go at answering it?
I am not in a position to influence defence spending so my background is irrelevant, given that he comes fairly directly out of the military establishment his background is germane as the second question highlighted.
The third question was the one that really needs to be addressed and was the point of my post. Care to have a go at answering it?
Al Qaeda is US puppet
Whatever you try to discount, convince us it's a lie or a fiction that a Secretary of Defense had made up.
Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.
Here is some other news. Not from Secretary of Defense but institution. What's your say this time?
New NASA research points to possible HAARP connection in Japan earthquake, tsunami
Ethan A. Huff,
Natural News
June 10, 2011
Recent data released by Dimitar Ouzounov and colleagues from the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland highlights some strange atmospheric anomalies over Japan just days before the massive earthquake and tsunami struck on March 11. Seemingly inexplicable and rapid heating of the ionosphere directly above the epicenter reached a maximum only three days prior to the quake, according to satellite observations, suggesting that directed energy emitted from transmitters used in the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) may have been responsible for inducing the quake.
Published in the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) publication Technology Review, the findings are presented alongside a different theory called Lithosphere-Atmosphere-Ionosphere Coupling, which hypothesizes that the heating in the ionosphere may have been caused by the impending earthquake as the fault line released radioactive radon. This theory, of course, is not actually proven, but is instead presented as a possible explanation for the presence of the high-density electrons and emitted infrared radiation that was observed.
Another explanation for this strange heating — and one that, upon analysis, seems much more likely — is that it was an indication that concentrated energy was used to induce the earthquake, and not the other way around. Numerous credible reports and scientific observations reveal that HAARP technology is fully capable of being used as a scalar weapon, meaning it can emit strong electromagnetic pulse bombs that can alter weather or trigger seismic fault lines.
Evidence that HAARP is not only capable of inducing earthquakes, but that it appears to have been used on Japan
Prison Planet.com » New NASA research points to possible HAARP connection in Japan earthquake, tsunami
Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.
Here is some other news. Not from Secretary of Defense but institution. What's your say this time?
New NASA research points to possible HAARP connection in Japan earthquake, tsunami
Ethan A. Huff,
Natural News
June 10, 2011
Recent data released by Dimitar Ouzounov and colleagues from the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland highlights some strange atmospheric anomalies over Japan just days before the massive earthquake and tsunami struck on March 11. Seemingly inexplicable and rapid heating of the ionosphere directly above the epicenter reached a maximum only three days prior to the quake, according to satellite observations, suggesting that directed energy emitted from transmitters used in the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) may have been responsible for inducing the quake.
Published in the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) publication Technology Review, the findings are presented alongside a different theory called Lithosphere-Atmosphere-Ionosphere Coupling, which hypothesizes that the heating in the ionosphere may have been caused by the impending earthquake as the fault line released radioactive radon. This theory, of course, is not actually proven, but is instead presented as a possible explanation for the presence of the high-density electrons and emitted infrared radiation that was observed.
Another explanation for this strange heating — and one that, upon analysis, seems much more likely — is that it was an indication that concentrated energy was used to induce the earthquake, and not the other way around. Numerous credible reports and scientific observations reveal that HAARP technology is fully capable of being used as a scalar weapon, meaning it can emit strong electromagnetic pulse bombs that can alter weather or trigger seismic fault lines.
Evidence that HAARP is not only capable of inducing earthquakes, but that it appears to have been used on Japan
Prison Planet.com » New NASA research points to possible HAARP connection in Japan earthquake, tsunami
Al Qaeda is US puppet
katsung47;1368300 wrote: Whatever you try to discount, convince us it's a lie or a fiction that a Secretary of Defense had made up.
Here is some other news. Not from Secretary of Defense but institution. What's your say this time?
So let me get this right, your "reliable source" :-
NaturalNews.com (formerly Newstarget) is a website founded and owned by self-proclaimed "health ranger" Mike Adams. The site promotes almost every sort of medical woo known, though it specializes in promoting vaccine hysteria[1] and quack cancer medicine[2]. They also promote conspiracy theories which are usually either targeted at modern medicine or geared to gain sympathy for alternative medicine.
is quoting a respected peer reviewed paper that presents findings that atmospheric heating observed over Japan was caused by a release of radon from the fault zone and your source is presenting it, without evidence and without referencing the "numerous credible reports" to prevent us from checking their reasoning, as evidence that a US Government radio transmitter in Alaska was used to cause the earthquake?
OK, I've found the article in the May edition of Technology Review and it makes a good case. Produce some of the "numerous credible reports" and I'll read them and come back to you with conclusions.
Here is some other news. Not from Secretary of Defense but institution. What's your say this time?
So let me get this right, your "reliable source" :-
NaturalNews.com (formerly Newstarget) is a website founded and owned by self-proclaimed "health ranger" Mike Adams. The site promotes almost every sort of medical woo known, though it specializes in promoting vaccine hysteria[1] and quack cancer medicine[2]. They also promote conspiracy theories which are usually either targeted at modern medicine or geared to gain sympathy for alternative medicine.
is quoting a respected peer reviewed paper that presents findings that atmospheric heating observed over Japan was caused by a release of radon from the fault zone and your source is presenting it, without evidence and without referencing the "numerous credible reports" to prevent us from checking their reasoning, as evidence that a US Government radio transmitter in Alaska was used to cause the earthquake?
OK, I've found the article in the May edition of Technology Review and it makes a good case. Produce some of the "numerous credible reports" and I'll read them and come back to you with conclusions.
Al Qaeda is US puppet
Bryn Mawr;1368313 wrote: So let me get this right, your "reliable source" :-
is quoting a respected peer reviewed paper that presents findings that atmospheric heating observed over Japan was caused by a release of radon from the fault zone and your source is presenting it, without evidence and without referencing the "numerous credible reports" to prevent us from checking their reasoning, as evidence that a US Government radio transmitter in Alaska was used to cause the earthquake?
OK, I've found the article in the May edition of Technology Review and it makes a good case. Produce some of the "numerous credible reports" and I'll read them and come back to you with conclusions.
Of course for a bigot the secretary of Defense or NASA's research mean nothing. Then I really can't find anything to prove. I can't access to top secret of the Pentagon. What about this. (see follow url) Tell me what are those law makers talk about. Are they play game or just make a scientific film? What's the purpose for the bill.
EXPERIMENTAL WEATHER MODIFICATION BILL FAST TRACKING FOR PASSAGE IN U.S. SENATE & HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Controversial Experimental Weather Modification Bill in US Congress
is quoting a respected peer reviewed paper that presents findings that atmospheric heating observed over Japan was caused by a release of radon from the fault zone and your source is presenting it, without evidence and without referencing the "numerous credible reports" to prevent us from checking their reasoning, as evidence that a US Government radio transmitter in Alaska was used to cause the earthquake?
OK, I've found the article in the May edition of Technology Review and it makes a good case. Produce some of the "numerous credible reports" and I'll read them and come back to you with conclusions.
Of course for a bigot the secretary of Defense or NASA's research mean nothing. Then I really can't find anything to prove. I can't access to top secret of the Pentagon. What about this. (see follow url) Tell me what are those law makers talk about. Are they play game or just make a scientific film? What's the purpose for the bill.
EXPERIMENTAL WEATHER MODIFICATION BILL FAST TRACKING FOR PASSAGE IN U.S. SENATE & HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Controversial Experimental Weather Modification Bill in US Congress
Al Qaeda is US puppet
katsung47;1370244 wrote: Of course for a bigot the secretary of Defense or NASA's research mean nothing. Then I really can't find anything to prove. I can't access to top secret of the Pentagon. What about this. (see follow url) Tell me what are those law makers talk about. Are they play game or just make a scientific film? What's the purpose for the bill.
But NASA's research means a lot, especially when published in a respected, peer reviewed, journal. That's why I would need to see your "numerous credible reports" before I would put Nasa's conclusions aside in favour of those of someone I've never heard of - that's how bigotted I am
But NASA's research means a lot, especially when published in a respected, peer reviewed, journal. That's why I would need to see your "numerous credible reports" before I would put Nasa's conclusions aside in favour of those of someone I've never heard of - that's how bigotted I am
Al Qaeda is US puppet
Now I understand it's a waste of time to discuss with you. This is your routine job to harass. With a reason or not, just tangle with endless quibbling.
To maintain an enemy is the tactic that the Feds can keep on ask for more power and money from the people.
Raymond Davis was a Taliban recruiter: Report
February 22, 2011 16:49 IST
American official Raymond Davis, arrested for double murder, had "close links" with Taliban and was "instrumental" in recruiting youths for it, the media in Pakistan claimed on Tuesday, close on the heels of reports in the United States that he was a Central Intelligence Agency agent tracking movements of terror groups like the Lashkar-e-Tayiba.
The "close ties" of 37-year-old Davis, arrested in Lahore on January 27 for killing two men he claimed were trying to rob him, with the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan came out during investigations, The Express Tribune reported quoting an unnamed senior official of the Punjab police.
"Davis was instrumental in recruiting young people from Punjab for the Taliban to fuel the bloody insurgency in Pakistan," the official said.
Raymond Davis was a Taliban recruiter: Report - Rediff.com India News
To maintain an enemy is the tactic that the Feds can keep on ask for more power and money from the people.
Raymond Davis was a Taliban recruiter: Report
February 22, 2011 16:49 IST
American official Raymond Davis, arrested for double murder, had "close links" with Taliban and was "instrumental" in recruiting youths for it, the media in Pakistan claimed on Tuesday, close on the heels of reports in the United States that he was a Central Intelligence Agency agent tracking movements of terror groups like the Lashkar-e-Tayiba.
The "close ties" of 37-year-old Davis, arrested in Lahore on January 27 for killing two men he claimed were trying to rob him, with the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan came out during investigations, The Express Tribune reported quoting an unnamed senior official of the Punjab police.
"Davis was instrumental in recruiting young people from Punjab for the Taliban to fuel the bloody insurgency in Pakistan," the official said.
Raymond Davis was a Taliban recruiter: Report - Rediff.com India News
Al Qaeda is US puppet
katsung47;1373281 wrote: Now I understand it's a waste of time to discuss with you. This is your routine job to harass. With a reason or not, just tangle with endless quibbling.
To maintain an enemy is the tactic that the Feds can keep on ask for more power and money from the people.
Raymond Davis was a Taliban recruiter: Report
February 22, 2011 16:49 IST
American official Raymond Davis, arrested for double murder, had "close links" with Taliban and was "instrumental" in recruiting youths for it, the media in Pakistan claimed on Tuesday, close on the heels of reports in the United States that he was a Central Intelligence Agency agent tracking movements of terror groups like the Lashkar-e-Tayiba.
The "close ties" of 37-year-old Davis, arrested in Lahore on January 27 for killing two men he claimed were trying to rob him, with the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan came out during investigations, The Express Tribune reported quoting an unnamed senior official of the Punjab police.
"Davis was instrumental in recruiting young people from Punjab for the Taliban to fuel the bloody insurgency in Pakistan," the official said.
Raymond Davis was a Taliban recruiter: Report - Rediff.com India News
Now how about responding to the point?
The peer reviewed journal your article quoted came to a firm conclusion. The article you reference came to a totally different conclusion but claimed authority from the quoted article claiming that "numerous papers" had shown differently but without naming or quoting those papers.
Either you name and quote the arguments from those "numerous papers" or you admit that your original claim was false - there is no middle ground.
To maintain an enemy is the tactic that the Feds can keep on ask for more power and money from the people.
Raymond Davis was a Taliban recruiter: Report
February 22, 2011 16:49 IST
American official Raymond Davis, arrested for double murder, had "close links" with Taliban and was "instrumental" in recruiting youths for it, the media in Pakistan claimed on Tuesday, close on the heels of reports in the United States that he was a Central Intelligence Agency agent tracking movements of terror groups like the Lashkar-e-Tayiba.
The "close ties" of 37-year-old Davis, arrested in Lahore on January 27 for killing two men he claimed were trying to rob him, with the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan came out during investigations, The Express Tribune reported quoting an unnamed senior official of the Punjab police.
"Davis was instrumental in recruiting young people from Punjab for the Taliban to fuel the bloody insurgency in Pakistan," the official said.
Raymond Davis was a Taliban recruiter: Report - Rediff.com India News
Now how about responding to the point?
The peer reviewed journal your article quoted came to a firm conclusion. The article you reference came to a totally different conclusion but claimed authority from the quoted article claiming that "numerous papers" had shown differently but without naming or quoting those papers.
Either you name and quote the arguments from those "numerous papers" or you admit that your original claim was false - there is no middle ground.
Al Qaeda is US puppet
In #25 of this thread on 4/27, I wrote that Bin Laden went to Afghanistan because there was rich mine resource.
katsung47;1358275 wrote:
In Bin Laden's recent 20 years, the countries he went or tried to go, have something in common: They all have rich natural resources. Sudan and Iraq have oil. Afghan has rich mine. '
He didn't go to Yemen, Somali or Syria for his "revolution" because they are resource poor countries, not in US interest list. He didn't go to Saudi or Kuwait. Because they are US allies. He only went to Sudan, Afghan, or Iraq (intended to) because these three countries were not controlled by US at that time. As a living plant, he gave US the excuse to activate attack on these three countries. (Even Saddam realized that Bin Laden was a dangerous living plant and rejected him, Iraq at last was invaded with an unexisted WMD)
A recent news proves my analysis again.
Friday, September 30, 2011 5:41 AM EDT
USGS Finds 'World-Class' Gold, Iron Deposits in Afghanistan
By Shailesh Shrivastava
The study found major gold deposits in southeastern Afghanistan's Badakhshan area with the capacity of as much as 958 kilograms. Apart from gold, the area also has silver, copper and uranium as minor or possible commodities.
In 2002, the USGS compiled a digital inventory of more than 1,079 mines and mineral occurrences in Afghanistan, of which 112 were gold-related.
Deposits of iron will be the second biggest mineral deposit to contribute to transforming the nation's economy. According to the study, the Hajigak area contains 1.7 billion tons of iron and iron ore.
A study in 1960s demonstrated the mineral potential of the region, and estimated, at that time, the Hajigak resource as having a concentration of approximately 62 percent iron, classifying it as "truly significant" on a global scale.
Among many minerals, Afghanistan also has vast deposits of celestite containing about 1 million tons. Deposits in the Kunduz area are believed to have 76.9 percent concentration of celestite.
Print Article - IBTIMES.com: International Business News, Financial News, Market News, Politics, Forex, Commodities - International Business Times
katsung47;1358275 wrote:
In Bin Laden's recent 20 years, the countries he went or tried to go, have something in common: They all have rich natural resources. Sudan and Iraq have oil. Afghan has rich mine. '
He didn't go to Yemen, Somali or Syria for his "revolution" because they are resource poor countries, not in US interest list. He didn't go to Saudi or Kuwait. Because they are US allies. He only went to Sudan, Afghan, or Iraq (intended to) because these three countries were not controlled by US at that time. As a living plant, he gave US the excuse to activate attack on these three countries. (Even Saddam realized that Bin Laden was a dangerous living plant and rejected him, Iraq at last was invaded with an unexisted WMD)
A recent news proves my analysis again.
Friday, September 30, 2011 5:41 AM EDT
USGS Finds 'World-Class' Gold, Iron Deposits in Afghanistan
By Shailesh Shrivastava
The study found major gold deposits in southeastern Afghanistan's Badakhshan area with the capacity of as much as 958 kilograms. Apart from gold, the area also has silver, copper and uranium as minor or possible commodities.
In 2002, the USGS compiled a digital inventory of more than 1,079 mines and mineral occurrences in Afghanistan, of which 112 were gold-related.
Deposits of iron will be the second biggest mineral deposit to contribute to transforming the nation's economy. According to the study, the Hajigak area contains 1.7 billion tons of iron and iron ore.
A study in 1960s demonstrated the mineral potential of the region, and estimated, at that time, the Hajigak resource as having a concentration of approximately 62 percent iron, classifying it as "truly significant" on a global scale.
Among many minerals, Afghanistan also has vast deposits of celestite containing about 1 million tons. Deposits in the Kunduz area are believed to have 76.9 percent concentration of celestite.
Print Article - IBTIMES.com: International Business News, Financial News, Market News, Politics, Forex, Commodities - International Business Times
Al Qaeda is US puppet
Quote, "CIA enjoying relations with many terrorist groups: Hina
South Asian News Agency (SANA) ⋅ September 26, 2011 ⋅
WASHINGT (SANA): Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar has said that Haqqani network was established by United States, adding that CIA also has relations with many terrorist groups.
She said that the US should avoid testing temperament of Pakistan, adding that Pakistan has the right to use options if US would continue blaming Pakistan and the doors of dialogue would be closed due the controversial statements of US leaders.
In an interviews with an Arab and US TV channels , she said that US cannot provide any proofs, adding that US itself established Haqqani network and leveling allegations on Pakistan for ties with Haqqani network.
She said that if we talk about the relations, then she is sure that CIA also maintains ties with a number of terrorist groups of the world, adding that the Haqqani network is also a beloved group of CIA.
She said that allies and friends cannot convey messages through media, adding that issuing statements regarding foreign affairs on media is not the policy of Pakistan and warned that nobody consider it as weakness.
She said that if the US would continuously level allegations on Pakistan then Pakistan has the right to use other options, adding that US cannot test our temperament beyond limit and if they continuously test US then Pakistan take it as US policy and Pakistan has the right to take steps.
CIA enjoying relations with many terrorist groups: Hina | Top Stories | South Asian News Agency
South Asian News Agency (SANA) ⋅ September 26, 2011 ⋅
WASHINGT (SANA): Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar has said that Haqqani network was established by United States, adding that CIA also has relations with many terrorist groups.
She said that the US should avoid testing temperament of Pakistan, adding that Pakistan has the right to use options if US would continue blaming Pakistan and the doors of dialogue would be closed due the controversial statements of US leaders.
In an interviews with an Arab and US TV channels , she said that US cannot provide any proofs, adding that US itself established Haqqani network and leveling allegations on Pakistan for ties with Haqqani network.
She said that if we talk about the relations, then she is sure that CIA also maintains ties with a number of terrorist groups of the world, adding that the Haqqani network is also a beloved group of CIA.
She said that allies and friends cannot convey messages through media, adding that issuing statements regarding foreign affairs on media is not the policy of Pakistan and warned that nobody consider it as weakness.
She said that if the US would continuously level allegations on Pakistan then Pakistan has the right to use other options, adding that US cannot test our temperament beyond limit and if they continuously test US then Pakistan take it as US policy and Pakistan has the right to take steps.
CIA enjoying relations with many terrorist groups: Hina | Top Stories | South Asian News Agency
Al Qaeda is US puppet
Al-Qaida calls on Ahmadinejad to end 9/11 conspiracy theories
Terrorist organisation's magazine reportedly says it is 'ridiculous' for Iran's president to blame the attacks on the US government
Saeed Kamali Dehghan guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 28 September 2011
Ahmadinejad said in New York that the "mysterious September 11 incident" had been used as a pretext to attack Afghanistan and Iraq. He had also previously expressed scepticism at the US version of events.
"By using their imperialistic media network which is under the influence of colonialism, they threaten anyone who questions the Holocaust and the September 11 event with sanctions and military actions," said Ahmadinejad.
The al-Qaida article insisted it had been behind the attacks and criticised the Iranian president for discrediting the terrorist group.
Al-Qaida calls on Ahmadinejad to end 9/11 conspiracy theories | World news | guardian.co.uk
Just another proof Al Qaida is US' puppet. It always came out at the time when US needs help.
When Us needed justification to start war in Mid-east, Al Qaida activated a terror attack - 911. (Though it was actually done by the Feds.)
When Ahmadinejad told the truth, Al Qaida came out to help US again - take over the responsibility.
Similar case happened four months ago. When people suspected the official story of "Operation Geronimo", Al Qaida hurried out to defend its master too - to prove Bin Laden's "death".
Terrorist organisation's magazine reportedly says it is 'ridiculous' for Iran's president to blame the attacks on the US government
Saeed Kamali Dehghan guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 28 September 2011
Ahmadinejad said in New York that the "mysterious September 11 incident" had been used as a pretext to attack Afghanistan and Iraq. He had also previously expressed scepticism at the US version of events.
"By using their imperialistic media network which is under the influence of colonialism, they threaten anyone who questions the Holocaust and the September 11 event with sanctions and military actions," said Ahmadinejad.
The al-Qaida article insisted it had been behind the attacks and criticised the Iranian president for discrediting the terrorist group.
Al-Qaida calls on Ahmadinejad to end 9/11 conspiracy theories | World news | guardian.co.uk
Just another proof Al Qaida is US' puppet. It always came out at the time when US needs help.
When Us needed justification to start war in Mid-east, Al Qaida activated a terror attack - 911. (Though it was actually done by the Feds.)
When Ahmadinejad told the truth, Al Qaida came out to help US again - take over the responsibility.
Similar case happened four months ago. When people suspected the official story of "Operation Geronimo", Al Qaida hurried out to defend its master too - to prove Bin Laden's "death".
Al Qaeda is US puppet
There was no Al Qaida in Saddam’s regime. After US taking over the Iraq, Al Qaeda is everywhere in bombing the civilians in market and mosque.
There was no Al Qaida heard in Gaddafi’s Libya. Now the Al Qaeda’s is a force that occupies Libya.
Who is the master behind it?
Libya: Al Qaeda flag flown above Benghazi courthouse
01 Nov 2011
The black flag of Al Qaeda has been spotted flying over a public building in Libya, raising concerns that the country could lurch towards Muslim extremism.
Libya: Al Qaeda flag flown above Benghazi courthouse - Telegraph
There was no Al Qaida heard in Gaddafi’s Libya. Now the Al Qaeda’s is a force that occupies Libya.
Who is the master behind it?
Libya: Al Qaeda flag flown above Benghazi courthouse
01 Nov 2011
The black flag of Al Qaeda has been spotted flying over a public building in Libya, raising concerns that the country could lurch towards Muslim extremism.
Libya: Al Qaeda flag flown above Benghazi courthouse - Telegraph
Al Qaeda is US puppet
Muslim Brotherhood and elements or associates of Al-Qaida.
They are backed with arms, funds, training and fighting strength by several Sunni Arab regimes, chiefly Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, Jordan
DEBKAfile, Political Analysis, Espionage, Terrorism, Security
So they are backed by American allies - Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, Jordan?
They are backed with arms, funds, training and fighting strength by several Sunni Arab regimes, chiefly Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, Jordan
DEBKAfile, Political Analysis, Espionage, Terrorism, Security
So they are backed by American allies - Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, Jordan?
Al Qaeda is US puppet
katsung47;1379940 wrote: Muslim Brotherhood and elements or associates of Al-Qaida.
They are backed with arms, funds, training and fighting strength by several Sunni Arab regimes, chiefly Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, Jordan
DEBKAfile, Political Analysis, Espionage, Terrorism, Security
So they are backed by American allies - Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, Jordan?
When did Turkey become a Sunni Arab regime?
Interesting website but hardly unbiased :-
(Wired.com's Noah Shachtman wrote in 2001 that the site "clearly reports with a point of view; the site is unabashedly in the hawkish camp of Israeli politics," adding that Debka had partnered with the right-wing news site WorldNetDaily for a weekly subscription product)
The other complaint levelled against them is that their views are unsubstantiated :-
Forbes identifies the best part of the website as being its archives, but decries the fact that "most of the information is attributed to unidentified sources.
Stating that something is so does not make it so - have you any evidence to back it up?
They are backed with arms, funds, training and fighting strength by several Sunni Arab regimes, chiefly Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, Jordan
DEBKAfile, Political Analysis, Espionage, Terrorism, Security
So they are backed by American allies - Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, Jordan?
When did Turkey become a Sunni Arab regime?
Interesting website but hardly unbiased :-
(Wired.com's Noah Shachtman wrote in 2001 that the site "clearly reports with a point of view; the site is unabashedly in the hawkish camp of Israeli politics," adding that Debka had partnered with the right-wing news site WorldNetDaily for a weekly subscription product)
The other complaint levelled against them is that their views are unsubstantiated :-
Forbes identifies the best part of the website as being its archives, but decries the fact that "most of the information is attributed to unidentified sources.
Stating that something is so does not make it so - have you any evidence to back it up?
Al Qaeda is US puppet
Bryn Mawr;1380098 wrote: When did Turkey become a Sunni Arab regime?
Interesting website but hardly unbiased :-
?
Tell me how your unbiased media lied us to an unjust war by "WMD". Tell me how your unbiased media silenced on NADD that steals our civil right. I just read an article about your unbiased media:
Mainstream Media Lies: 23 Things That Are Not What They Seem To Be On Television
Most Americans believe the lie that the mainstream media is "fair and balanced" and is looking out for the interests of average Americans. Well, that simply is not true. Those in the mainstream media serve those that are providing them with paychecks. The reality is that just 6 gigantic corporations collectively own most of the major mainstream media outlets in this country. Reporters are simply not going to be allowed to report stories that are severely damaging to those corporations or to the owners of those corporations. In addition, reporters are simply not going to be allowed to report stories that are severely damaging to those that spend millions of dollars on advertising (such as pharmaceutical companies) on those mainstream media outlets. At this point, our "news" is absolutely packed with propaganda. Way too often, things are not what they seem to be on television. The mainstream media lies, lies and then lies some more. They give us the version of "reality" that their owners want us to have.
The following are 23 things that are not what they seem to be on television....
The Lie: Mitt Romney won Iowa.
The Truth: Mitt Romney may not have won Iowa. The following report of a documented vote discrepancy comes from KCCI....
Edward True, 28, of Moulton, said he helped count the votes and jotted the results down on a piece of paper to post to his Facebook page. He said when he checked to make sure the Republican Party of Iowa got the count right, he said he was shocked to find they hadn't.
"When Mitt Romney won Iowa by eight votes and I've got a 20-vote discrepancy here, that right there says Rick Santorum won Iowa," True said. "Not Mitt Romney."
True said at his 53-person caucus at the Garrett Memorial Library, Romney received two votes. According to the Iowa Republican Party's website, True's precinct cast 22 votes for Romney.
So how many other "vote discrepancies" were there in Iowa? Was this just a "coincidence" or did someone do this on purpose?
The Lie: Barack Obama will be much different from George W. Bush and will actually protect our civil liberties.
The Truth: Under Barack Obama we have lost even more of our civil liberties than we did under George W. Bush. Barack Obama recently signed a new law that gives the U.S. military the power to arrest U.S. citizens on American soil, detain them indefinitely and ship them off to Guantanamo Bay for endless "interrogation" sessions.
The Lie: SOPA is all about cracking down on international sellers of counterfeit goods.
The Truth: SOPA is all about censoring the Internet and cracking down on websites that the federal government does not like.
The Lie: The U.S. unemployment rate is now at 8.5% and will continue to fall as the U.S. economy recovers.
The Truth: If the number of Americans considered to be "looking for work" was the same today as it was back in 2007, the "official" unemployment rate put out by the U.S. government would about 11 percent, and the U.S. middle class continues to be systematically destroyed right in front of our eyes.
.......
Mainstream Media Lies: 23 Things That Are Not What They Seem To Be On Television
Interesting website but hardly unbiased :-
?
Tell me how your unbiased media lied us to an unjust war by "WMD". Tell me how your unbiased media silenced on NADD that steals our civil right. I just read an article about your unbiased media:
Mainstream Media Lies: 23 Things That Are Not What They Seem To Be On Television
Most Americans believe the lie that the mainstream media is "fair and balanced" and is looking out for the interests of average Americans. Well, that simply is not true. Those in the mainstream media serve those that are providing them with paychecks. The reality is that just 6 gigantic corporations collectively own most of the major mainstream media outlets in this country. Reporters are simply not going to be allowed to report stories that are severely damaging to those corporations or to the owners of those corporations. In addition, reporters are simply not going to be allowed to report stories that are severely damaging to those that spend millions of dollars on advertising (such as pharmaceutical companies) on those mainstream media outlets. At this point, our "news" is absolutely packed with propaganda. Way too often, things are not what they seem to be on television. The mainstream media lies, lies and then lies some more. They give us the version of "reality" that their owners want us to have.
The following are 23 things that are not what they seem to be on television....
The Lie: Mitt Romney won Iowa.
The Truth: Mitt Romney may not have won Iowa. The following report of a documented vote discrepancy comes from KCCI....
Edward True, 28, of Moulton, said he helped count the votes and jotted the results down on a piece of paper to post to his Facebook page. He said when he checked to make sure the Republican Party of Iowa got the count right, he said he was shocked to find they hadn't.
"When Mitt Romney won Iowa by eight votes and I've got a 20-vote discrepancy here, that right there says Rick Santorum won Iowa," True said. "Not Mitt Romney."
True said at his 53-person caucus at the Garrett Memorial Library, Romney received two votes. According to the Iowa Republican Party's website, True's precinct cast 22 votes for Romney.
So how many other "vote discrepancies" were there in Iowa? Was this just a "coincidence" or did someone do this on purpose?
The Lie: Barack Obama will be much different from George W. Bush and will actually protect our civil liberties.
The Truth: Under Barack Obama we have lost even more of our civil liberties than we did under George W. Bush. Barack Obama recently signed a new law that gives the U.S. military the power to arrest U.S. citizens on American soil, detain them indefinitely and ship them off to Guantanamo Bay for endless "interrogation" sessions.
The Lie: SOPA is all about cracking down on international sellers of counterfeit goods.
The Truth: SOPA is all about censoring the Internet and cracking down on websites that the federal government does not like.
The Lie: The U.S. unemployment rate is now at 8.5% and will continue to fall as the U.S. economy recovers.
The Truth: If the number of Americans considered to be "looking for work" was the same today as it was back in 2007, the "official" unemployment rate put out by the U.S. government would about 11 percent, and the U.S. middle class continues to be systematically destroyed right in front of our eyes.
.......
Mainstream Media Lies: 23 Things That Are Not What They Seem To Be On Television
Al Qaeda is US puppet
Now they target at Syria.
Qatar builds Sunni intervention force of Libyan, Iraqi terrorists against Assad
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report December 27, 2011,
The Qatar oil emirate, encouraged by its successful participation in the campaign to overthrow Libya's Muammar Qaddafi, has established a Sunni Arab intervention force to expedite the drive for Syrian President Bashar Assad's ouster, debkafile's military sources report. The new highly mobile force boosts the anti-Assad Free Syrian Army, whose numbers have jumped to 20,000 fighters, armed and funded by Qatar and now forming into military battalions and brigades at their bases in Turkey.
When they saw the Syrian massacre continuing unabated this month, the Qatari and Saudi rulers approved a crash program for the Qatari chief of staff Maj.-Gen Hamas Ali al-Attiya to weld this mobile intervention Sunni Muslim force out of al Qaeda linked-operatives for rapid deployment on the Turkish-Syrian border.
A force of 2,500 has been recruited up until now, our sources report. The hard core is made up of 1,000 members of the Islamic Fighting Group in Libya-IFGL, which fought Qaddafi, and 1,000 operatives of the Ansar al-Sunna, the Iraqi Islamists which carried out 15 coordinated bomb attacks in Baghdad last Thursday killing 72 people and injuring 200.
Qatar has just had them airlifted from Libya and Iraq to the southern Turkish town of Antakya (Antioch) in the border province of Hatay.
DEBKAfile, Political Analysis, Espionage, Terrorism, Security
Qatar builds Sunni intervention force of Libyan, Iraqi terrorists against Assad
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report December 27, 2011,
The Qatar oil emirate, encouraged by its successful participation in the campaign to overthrow Libya's Muammar Qaddafi, has established a Sunni Arab intervention force to expedite the drive for Syrian President Bashar Assad's ouster, debkafile's military sources report. The new highly mobile force boosts the anti-Assad Free Syrian Army, whose numbers have jumped to 20,000 fighters, armed and funded by Qatar and now forming into military battalions and brigades at their bases in Turkey.
When they saw the Syrian massacre continuing unabated this month, the Qatari and Saudi rulers approved a crash program for the Qatari chief of staff Maj.-Gen Hamas Ali al-Attiya to weld this mobile intervention Sunni Muslim force out of al Qaeda linked-operatives for rapid deployment on the Turkish-Syrian border.
A force of 2,500 has been recruited up until now, our sources report. The hard core is made up of 1,000 members of the Islamic Fighting Group in Libya-IFGL, which fought Qaddafi, and 1,000 operatives of the Ansar al-Sunna, the Iraqi Islamists which carried out 15 coordinated bomb attacks in Baghdad last Thursday killing 72 people and injuring 200.
Qatar has just had them airlifted from Libya and Iraq to the southern Turkish town of Antakya (Antioch) in the border province of Hatay.
DEBKAfile, Political Analysis, Espionage, Terrorism, Security