IT's a Plan_The Calling

[Amythest]

Dumb down society and this is how it's done.

video The Calling - new world order, nwo, illuminati - videos kewego

[Mark Aspam]

Amythest;1293834 wrote: Dumb down society and this is how it's done.

video The Calling - new world order, nwo, illuminati - videos kewegoWell, Am, it's not a matter of dumbing down but of separating reality from delirium.

I listened to the first few minutes. When the dude (who, by the way, doesn't identify himself - that is significant) claimed that the city of Washington, D.C. and the City of London, England (meaning the financial district) are sovereign nations, not beholden to the countries surrounding them, he lost all credibility, because that is ridiculous.

I forced myself to endure a few more minutes, and he just starts down the list of all the hackneyed conspiracy theories, each of them thoroughly debunked.

Now, why don't you tell us, what is his final conclusion, who's really behind it all and ruling the world clandestinely? The Jews? The Jesuits? The Masons?

Please save us from having to sit through the whole hour plus!

[LarsMac]

Can't you feel your IQ falling as you listen to that stuff?

:rolleyes:

[Amythest]

The Calling_Written and Narrated by Maxwell Igan.

"That only a few, under any circumstances, protest against the injustice of long-established laws and customs, does not disprove the fact of the oppressions, while the satisfaction of the many, if real only proves their apathy and deeper degradation." - Elizabeth Cady Stanton

"Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful, murder respectable, and to give the appearance of solidity to pure wind." - George Orwell



"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living in society, they create for themselves in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat



:-6

[Ahso!]

So, Amy, let me ask you. In the movie it is suggested that JFK was assassinated because he figured "it" out. Is that what you believe?

Also, I don't see how any of the people you quoted can be defined by one or two sentences.

I agree that people should always question authority. And I don't associate the word "theory" with "conspiracy".

[Mark Aspam]

Amythest;1305994 wrote: The Calling_Written and Narrated by Maxwell Igan.

"That only a few, under any circumstances, protest against the injustice of long-established laws and customs, does not disprove the fact of the oppressions, while the satisfaction of the many, if real only proves their apathy and deeper degradation." - Elizabeth Cady Stanton

"Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful, murder respectable, and to give the appearance of solidity to pure wind." - George Orwell



"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living in society, they create for themselves in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

:-6Thanks for identifying the narrator. I googled his name, found hundreds of hits, but they all seem to refer back to the same few writings and videos.

I'm not sure what the quotes are for, they seem to be saying that human society is flawed. I think we're all in agreement on that.

That everything that occurs or has occurred in history is part of a vast conspiracy or conspiracies is a different matter.

But what is his CONCLUSION? In a sentence or two? Who's to blame?

[albertpollard]

I think we are all to blame. It is so easy to point the finger at a nebulous, shadowy figure in the background and claim all the worlds ills are 'their' fault. So much simpler than to face the truth that our own indifference to the actions of our government, our willingness to accept what they give us (or demand more) has brought us to where we are today.

I don't think a socialist democracy will be able to survive the tests of time.

[Amythest]

Ahso!;1305997 wrote: So, Amy, let me ask you. In the movie it is suggested that JFK was assassinated because he figured "it" out. Is that what you believe?

Also, I don't see how any of the people you quoted can be defined by one or two sentences.

I agree that people should always question authority. And I don't associate the word "theory" with "conspiracy".


Kennedy exposed the power elites tactics in various speaches. Here is one such speach. THAT is part of the reason why he was assasinated.

YouTube - President John F Kennedy Secret Society Speech version 2



He wanted to bring back value to the dollar by backing it with silver, thereby obliterating the federal reserve, which is privately run by J.P. Morgan, The Rockefeller family, Rothschild's ( all European ). Kennedy threatened this "plan" ( I call it a plan, not a conspiracy, because people are brainwashed to react negatively when they hear that word, and discount the info, just like some people did here) That would eliminate the mounting debt and interest role of our present monetary system, and put the power back into the hands of the American people. I bet your next question would be about growth. If the American people didn't have this amount of credit it wouldn't be the nation it is today.

Well it isn't so simple. Symbolism, psychology, and medicines ( substances that alter our body and brain chemistry) are very powerful and effective means used to control people. The subconscious has no fliter and takes everything in. Our Minds and bodies are being poisoned, slowly, systemically and people tend to think being ill is normal now. I mean they accept it and take the necessary drugs. There's always a way to get more money out of the masses, and the Carbon Tax is yet another example of not dealing with the destruction of Mother Earth.

We can't "save" the planet. That idea is ridiculous. We need to adhere to the laws of nature: respect and keep in tact what took billions of years to create.We need to stop raping our resources to the point of annihilation.

There are other reasons USA is what it is today and that involves inhumane, destructive, murderous tactics. It isn't just about the monetary system.

It's your perception that the quotes i used "define" the people from which they came. I didn't post this thread to debate who these people are as a whole. The quotes only define certain conditions , or situations that our present power structures have created for us. There's a lot of people who blindly protect those power structures.

I believe the whole system is corrupt and makes wide eyed children of us all. Most people can't think for themselves and continue to pay statutes, taxes, put up with our present flawed financial system, support unjust barbaric Wars, and roll over dead when the bankers come to collect. Most people have lost touch with whats important about this world and each other.

I only posted this video to put out the message, not to get into ego gratifying debates. I really don't care if certain people want to insult, use the delphi technique: be a change agent or devils advocate, to discount me here.

I've noticed various polarizing methods used in this forum by certain members. I guess they are rewarded "somehow".:sneaky:

It's up to the people who watch, read, listen and see the information, to make up their own minds. It's really up to each individual to realize what they eat, buy, support, and do with their minds and time is what matters. People have to believe that THEY matter and they have power. They just need to find a way to get to it if they want to......or they can eat fast food, drink excessively, take prescription drugs, (live as addicts ) abuse the ones they love, fear or hate their neighbours.People can continue to do as their told as mindless consumers.



I find it interesting that so many react defensively, or discount the info just by focusing on a person's "strange" voice, or some trait they perceive as negative.

Oh. I think Mawwell Igan is a pen name. For some reason this person wants to remain somewhat anigmatic. Maybe he fears for his life. Maybe he is a madman.

[Ahso!]

Amythest;1306156 wrote: Kennedy exposed the power elites tactics in various speaches. Here is one such speach. THAT is part of the reason why he was assasinated.

YouTube - President John F Kennedy Secret Society Speech version 2



He wanted to bring back value to the dollar by backing it with silver, thereby obliterating the federal reserve, which is privately run by J.P. Morgan, The Rockefeller family, Rothschild's ( all European ). Kennedy threatened this "plan" ( I call it a plan, not a conspiracy, because people are brainwashed to react negatively when they hear that word, and discount the info, just like some people did here) That would eliminate the mounting debt and interest role of our present monetary system, and put the power back into the hands of the American people. I bet your next question would be about growth. If the American people didn't have this amount of credit it wouldn't be the nation it is today.Amy, here is a transcript of the speech Kennedy gave that day (April 27th, 1961) to the American Newspaper Publishers Association. It might do you some good to read it from the beginning to get the gist of what Kennedy was talking about. The events of the last few weeks Kennedy refers to is the Bay of Pigs invasion. The speech has nothing to do with secret societies as is suggested by the video.

[Amythest]

Ahso!;1306160 wrote: Amy, here is a transcript of the speech Kennedy gave that day (April 27th, 1961) to the American Newspaper Publishers Association. It might do you some good to read it from the beginning to get the gist of what Kennedy was talking about. The events of the last few weeks Kennedy refers to is the Bay of Pigs invasion. The speech has nothing to do with secret societies as is suggested by the video.


AHhhhhhso. The beginning of the speech was aimed at the Communist Manifesto and Marx.

So lets define Communism in short.

com·mu·nism   /ˈkɒmyəˌnɪzəm/ Show Spelled[kom-yuh-niz-uhm] Show IPA

–noun

1.a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state. 2.(often initial capital letter) a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party.

3.(initial capital letter) the principles and practices of the Communist party.

4.communalism.

Communism | Define Communism at Dictionary.com



The state is owned by the banks. Corporations are to the point of running Monopolies now. How many people actually own everything they have? Capitalism is supposed to protect individual rights. Are the working class having their rights protected now? Seems capitalism has no concience anymore, has developed a system of credit, where the working class borrow money to acquire expensive items. Credit perpetuates imaginary ownership with exorbitant fees, long term loans, to lower monthly payments. Mortgages are amortized and properties can be reclaimed by the banks even if a 25 yr mortgage has been paid for, say 20 yrs. Capitalism puts the consumer at risk of fluctuating markets. and for the last 100 yrs we see many lose what they work hard for while the banks and the rich benefit from these losses. The Banks actually own everything for a large percentage of citizens.

Control by a totalitarian state? Seems that's how we live now. Political decisions are made without public consent, or the public are lied to, manipulated into complacency or outright fear. The single self perpetuating party is the World Bank and politicians are puppets, blackmailed or payed off into carrying out their agendas.

and....

"Pure communism" in the Marxian sense refers to a classless, stateless and oppression-free society where decisions on what to produce and what policies to pursue are made democratically, allowing every member of society to participate in the decision-making process in both the political and economic spheres of life. In modern usage, communism is often used to refer to the policies of the various communist states, which were authoritarian governments that had centrally planned economies and ownership of all the means of production. Most communist governments based their ideology on Marxism-Leninism.

Communism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pure communism is classless and stateless? The NWO wants to strip nations of their individuality and everything is based on the Unified Commercial Code Behind the scenes. Commerce is the levelling factor internationally. The more people lose their traditional and ethnic identities, the easier it is to control us by a centralized banking system. Hold everyone hostage with debt and it forces nations to adhere to the NWO's agenda. Use economic terrorism to force this agenda through. Most third world countries, who's people rely on farming, bartering and trade within communities are being dismantled. Corps and banks want all the land and it's resources.The poor are no longer self sufficient. They are displaced from their land, given promises of a better life. What do you call this?

Does every member of society truly have a say in the decisions made? Are they truly aware of the consequences of these decisions?

Kennedy went on in that speech about the secret societies.

" Quote:Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know."

He doesn't say specifically who or what that secret society is. It appears to me he believed Communism and this Secret society were separate and equal threats.



"Quote: Today no war has been declared--and however fierce the struggle may be, it may never be declared in the traditional fashion. Our way of life is under attack. Those who make themselves our enemy are advancing around the globe. The survival of our friends is in danger. And yet no war has been declared, no borders have been crossed by marching troops, no missiles have been fired."

We have the Patriot act, homeland security, wire tapping, restrictions and controls stripped away so that Corps can pollute and destroy ecosystems.

"Quote: Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match."

Sounds like today's media and the Patriot act to me. Concealment, lies, arrests under "suspicion". Citizens pepper sprayed, beaten, or locked up for protesting peacefully. "IT" conducts a Cold War? Wasn't it the American Government who initiated a Cold War against Russia? Wasn't it the American Government that unleashed a witch hunt against it's own citizens to weed out "communists?

Kennedy points to the Constitution as a basis of his beliefs. Wants to uphold it. Today the constitution is held up by those who hope it still applies. Does the constitution really protect any of you anymore? Maintain the Status Quo, keep your head down and mouth shut and you'll be ok? Offer no dissent or criticism of government.

I think Kennedy was indicating that danger lay within both philosophies.He was telling people that national security is important, but to be very careful who and what we perceive to be the enemy. Perhaps the enemy exists within both regimes and their tactics were parallel?

Each, Communism and Capitalism takes away our freedoms and rights. They both have strayed from their true meaning and purpose and have fallen into the hands of the corrupt, greedy and insane. We are ruled by economics not by sustainability or integrity.

We will never know what Kennedy actually meant due to his assassination.

Do you know? If so post it.

Kennedy is only a minuscule aspect of what The Calling reveals.



NEXT!

[Ahso!]

Surely you know you're stretching at this point! Obviously the purpose of the speech was to address openness of government and the president's administration in particular to the press. Kennedy was speaking to the press after all.

This deadly challenge imposes upon our society two requirements of direct concern both to the press and to the President--two requirements that may seem almost contradictory in tone, but which must be reconciled and fulfilled if we are to meet this national peril. I refer, first, to the need for a far greater public information; and, second, to the need for far greater official secrecy.

[Ahso!]

As for the blood line. First of all, how do these people know the blood line? And secondly, did you know that all of the human race is said to have descended from 600 people? Also, every human beings DNA is over 95% compatible with chimps? Where does that lead us?

If these conspiracy theorists are correct then they should be able to tell us who the next few presidents will be. Ask them who will be elected president in 2018. They should know. Just follow the bloodline, right.

[Mark Aspam]

Ahso!;1306220 wrote: As for the blood line. First of all, how do these people know the blood line? And secondly, did you know that all of the human race is said to have descended from 600 people? Also, every human beings DNA is over 95% compatible with chimps? Where does that lead us?

If these conspiracy theorists are correct then they should be able to tell us who the next few presidents will be. Ask them who will be elected president in 2018. They should know. Just follow the bloodline, right.Ah, with all due respect, the theme of the forum IS Conspiracy Theories.

You might as well try to have a meaningful conversation with that squirrel out in your back yard!

[Amythest]

Ahso!;1306220 wrote: As for the blood line. First of all, how do these people know the blood line? And secondly, did you know that all of the human race is said to have descended from 600 people? Also, every human beings DNA is over 95% compatible with chimps? Where does that lead us?

If these conspiracy theorists are correct then they should be able to tell us who the next few presidents will be. Ask them who will be elected president in 2018. They should know. Just follow the bloodline, right.


Well I know how you like to find any flaw or questionable detail and magnify it to the point all other elements fade into oblivion. For what reason I haven't figured it out .

Conspiracy theorists are NOT charlatans, psychics, or profits. What gave you that idea? They usually bring forth facts that have been hidden from the general public.

Even when solid evidence is presented ( documents that aren't released to the mainstream media) people like to hold on to "the American Dream".

Do you work for the government or something?:yh_rotfl

If you can't see that our political system, justice system and financial markets are corrupt it isn't up to me to convince you.

I guess you don't feel the pressure from insurance, taxes, rising cost of living, lowered wages, disappearing benefits, mounting statutes ( so called "laws" that confine and restrict freedoms) like I and so many others do. You don't experience the effects of the above?

Religion isn't the only thing that controls and harness's human potential.

There is an NWO plan in progress. There is a ruling elite. There is an impending financial collapse on the way. There is a vast environmental "extinction" going on. It's nothing I made up. The next 50 yrs will see alot of upheaval on so many levels. I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't see this. Not just sorry, but they are part of the problem if they deny it.

As for your skepticism about some "alien bloodline". The juries out with me still. I just don't know. I don't have to know. My concern is NOW and the future. However i don't discount those who broach the subject, ( David Icke, Tsarion, Maxwell, to name a few)when so many other elements line up and make sense for today.

Most humans are flawed in some way . There are worse "flaws" than believing in alien bloodlines.

How many scientists, researchers, and otherwise highly intelligent people believe life exists elsewhere in this universe besides on this planet? How many astronomers and astrophysicists spend a lifetime searching for signs of life in other galaxies)

Time can be so subjective. 50 million years for us could be 100 yrs. for some other life forms. Excuse my ignorance but i am not a scientist or physicist.

Excuse my tardy response.

Lately I am literally working my a$$ off, trying to keep ahead of a bills, mortgage, taxes, and insurance. Maybe if i just flipped numbers around on the market, pushed paper, life would be so much easier. But I'm not a sellout Capitalist Pig who leverages other peoples lives for my psychotic greed.

I Ain't no " Fortunate Son".



Peace!

[Saint_]

Ok...I'll admit it. I was the man on the grassy knoll.:sneaky:

Kennedy figured out about the space alien takeover and we had to get rid of him.

[LarsMac]

Saint_;1306973 wrote: Ok...I'll admit it. I was the man on the grassy knoll.:sneaky:

Kennedy figured out about the space alien takeover and we had to get rid of him.


HAH!

I KNEW it, all along.

[LarsMac]

Mark Aspam;1306320 wrote: Ah, with all due respect, the theme of the forum IS Conspiracy Theories.

You might as well try to have a meaningful conversation with that squirrel out in your back yard!


I was doing just that until Tuesday, when the neighbor's cat took him out.

[Mark Aspam]

Addressed to no one in particular (if the shoe fits, etc.): There's an old saying, "Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean everybody's not out to get me!"

LarsMac;1306995 wrote: I was doing just that until Tuesday, when the neighbor's cat took him out.That must be some cat!

My cats love to chase squirrels. The Lord forbid that they would ever catch one.

[Amythest]

Thread title should be Jester_Bait....er Skeptic's_Relay.

(Dancing around the May pole naked sounds like a good plan.)

:yh_rotfl

[Steev]

"Thread title should be Jester_Bait....er Skeptic's_Relay.

(Dancing around the May pole naked sounds like a good plan.)"



:yh_rotfl No kidding Amy!

Many still living in this country with all of it's 'delusions' of safety unaware or afraid of knowing.

Understandable, given the power of the state. It will always self justify any action of violence against individuals. The notion of a republic with it's system of laws is to them nothing but a facade that the people falsely believe.



So many now waking up and the numbers continue to grow. Many more that are aware but have yet to come out of the woodwork.

Ultimately, the naysayers are only shooting themselves in the foot by merely remaining part of the prob.

You can lead a horse to water but...well, you know the rest.