New America (NWO) Are You Guys Ready For Your National ID Cards?

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat May 19, 2007 1:16 pm

The Real ID Act, passed by Congress and signed by President Bush on May 11, 2005, mandates that all U.S. citizens will receive a National ID card by May of 2008.

Without this National ID, you won't...

Drive your car

Board a plane, train, or bus

Enter any federal building

Open a bank account

Hold a job

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat May 19, 2007 1:17 pm

There has been a bill passed by our goverment that will force us into getting yet another form of national idetification. This card, labled "REAL ID", will be in full affect by May 11th 2008 and will be a requirement from our government to obtain jobs, use national transportation (airplanes, trains, etc...), and eventually in order to buy things.

Real ID is a card that transmits a signal to surrounding machinery providing personal information and documentation to whoever obtains control of these set scanners.

We the People do have the power to still prevent this from happening. By voicing your opinion to your state's senators through mail, email, phone calls, protesting; we can block our states from participating in vanquishing our freedom.

Again, this card will be distributed by May 11th 2008 and the bill for it has been passed by The House, The Senate, and The President. However each state has the right to not participate, as shown already by New Hampshire. If you do NOT want to participate in giving away your freedom, please advise your state representative and vote accordingly.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat May 19, 2007 1:17 pm

The corrupt section of our Government is going to combine all of this information into GIG (Global Information Grid) a tracking/information unit that is the next stage of Digital Angel.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat May 19, 2007 1:18 pm

Digital Angel Corporation develops advanced RFID and GPS technologies that enable rapid and accurate identification, location tracking, and condition monitoring of high-value assets. Applications for our products include identification and monitoring of pets, humans, fish and livestock through our patented implantable microchips as well as message monitoring of aircraft in remote locations through integrated GPS and geosynchronous satellite communications systems.

http://www.digitalangelcorp.com/ <--- Digital Angel's website.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat May 19, 2007 1:18 pm

Americans. Get ready to take a stand.

Or find yourself soon a slave to technological "demons".

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat May 19, 2007 1:29 pm

The New World Order will never be introduced to the Earth in it's entirety.

Similar systems have been attempted other times in the past. And they have failed every time.

They are around temporarily only. Eventually something happens to wipe them out. And then it's back to the shadows for the conspirators.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat May 19, 2007 1:41 pm

8949749 wrote: Originally posted by NuclearWinter

Digital Angel Corporation develops advanced RFID and GPS technologies that enable rapid and accurate identification, location tracking, and condition monitoring of high-value assets. Applications for our products include identification and monitoring of pets, humans, fish and livestock through our patented implantable microchips as well as message monitoring of aircraft in remote locations through integrated GPS and geosynchronous satellite communications systems.

http://www.digitalangelcorp.com/

Since when did Human Beings become "High-Value Assets" for corporations?

I have never thought of myself as a high-value asset for a corporation. I've thought of myself as a piece of the Creator. Maybe thats just me though.

So folks, how is it going to feel to be monitored by a corporation that considers you to be a "High-Value-Asset" when you owe no allegiance what-so-ever to it?

JacksDad · Post by **JacksDad** » Sat May 19, 2007 1:47 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8949749

Originally posted by NuclearWinter

Digital Angel Corporation develops advanced RFID and GPS technologies that enable rapid and accurate identification, location tracking, and condition monitoring of high-value assets. Applications for our products include identification and monitoring of pets, humans, fish and livestock through our patented implantable microchips as well as message monitoring of aircraft in remote locations through integrated GPS and geosynchronous satellite communications systems.

http://www.digitalangelcorp.com/

Since when did Human Beings become "High-Value Assets" for corporations?

I have never thought of myself as a high-value asset for a corporation. I've thought of myself as a piece of the Creator. Maybe thats just me though.

Who's he talkin to?

Ok, TB. Pull over.:driving:

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat May 19, 2007 1:58 pm

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat May 19, 2007 3:53 pm

The ID card is only the first step of the process.

The second step is Human Microchip Implants.

The REAL ID act will be too easily counterfeited by illegals and criminals. It will be this way by design.

After the REAL ID act is shown to be obsolete, the implants will be introduced.

It's all part of the plan folks.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Sun May 20, 2007 6:56 am

TruthBringer;617059 wrote: The ID card is only the first step of the process.

The second step is Human Microchip Implants.

The REAL ID act will be too easily counterfeited by illegals and criminals. It will be this way by design.

After the REAL ID act is shown to be obsolete, the implants will be introduced.

It's all part of the plan folks.

Apart from mind-numbingly boring posts are you doing anything else about it? Are you politically active or are you just sitting letting this all happen?

Don't want details a yes or no will do.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun May 20, 2007 5:04 pm

gmc;617316 wrote: Apart from mind-numbingly boring posts are you doing anything else about it? Are you politically active or are you just sitting letting this all happen?

Don't want details a yes or no will do.

You under estimate the power of mass consciousness. And the answer is yes.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sun May 20, 2007 5:30 pm

What is referred to as a" smart card" is the method by which these cards will operate.

They will contain the inclusion of RFID technology which will mean a tiny microchip implanted in their make up which will contain pertinent data on each cardholder respectively.

The data will be available to such machines as Card readers that will transmit a signal that the card will answer with a download to the reader of the contents of the cards chip.

This information will consist of medical records, and personall data like previous convictions, be they federal or state, perhaps a military record of service, and a link to the big computer data bases which hold other info such as financial, political, personal, and other data deemed appropriate for collection and storage of every ones personal lives....

Money and hardware has been allocated to this intelligence project in the past, but it was disassembled into chunks by congress, though they did not stop its separate entities from completion.

The re-combination of these elements will be swift and the original intentions of it met with the issuance of these national IDs.

The data base already exists!

The cards will also act as a survielance tool of unerring accuracy that will be employed against every american and foriegn resident.

All movement within the country and outside it will be monitored through large computing capacity,and the card will be required for so many things as to give a very detailed description of movements and whereabouts,as well as financial and other information that will make our lives transparant to analysis and subject to review and question with very little personal freedom or privacy allowed to exist.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Mon May 21, 2007 2:06 pm

THE PENNY DROPS AT LAST?

We reached a significant milestone with the official acknowledgement that we are heading for mass human microchipping within a decade as we 'sleep walk' into the 'Surveillance Society'.

This suggested timescale is highly optimistic and important shall we awaken from the trance very soon and we are talking around 4-5 years, but, most importantly, there is the prospect of the bar-coded human that is being discussed in the mainstream.

It is a long way from the days a decade and more ago when my very suggestion that we were heading for microchipped people was guaranteed to trigger guffaws and belly laughs. But no more.

This week, Britain's Information Commissioner, Richard Thomas, responded to a report into the use of surveillance technology that warns that people may be forced to be microchipped 'like pet dogs' to track their movements and store personal information which, of course, would no longer be personal to anyone with a chip reader. The chips could be used not only by the government, says the report, but also by companies to keep tabs on employees. We would, as many have been warning for so long, be like monkeys in an electronic cage, rats in an electronic maze.

Cat-scan today ... humans tomorrow, say report authors

The report was edited by Dr David Murakami-Wood, managing editor of the journal Surveillance and Society and Dr Kirstie Ball, an Open University lecturer in Organisation Studies, and was produced by a group of academics called the Surveillance Studies Network. They say that very soon almost every movement, purchase and communication could be monitored by a complex network of interlinking surveillance technologies - unless we turn back from the brink pretty damn quick. "The call for everyone to be implanted is now being seriously debated', the authors warn.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Mon May 21, 2007 2:07 pm

Dr David Murakami-Wood said:

'We really do have a society which is premised both on state secrecy and the state not giving up its supposed right to keep information under control while, at the same time, wanting to know as much as it can about us.'

The report points out that Britain, which claims to spread 'freedom and democracy', is the planetary leader in surveillance technology and the British are the most spied-upon nation in what is so ironically called the 'free world'. And what is happening in Britain is planned, indeed is being introduced, in the rest of Europe, North America and elsewhere.

There are four million closed circuit television cameras in the UK for a population of just 60 million. The UK Home Office spent an astonishing 78 per cent of its crime prevention budget in the 1990s on installing the cameras. On average you are caught on camera in Britain 300 times a day -every 4.8 minutes -but in the cities it is even more extreme. The latest development, straight from the pages of Orwell's 1984, are cameras with speakers that allow operators to issue orders to people they are spying on.

The image they want you to buy ... but it is really about control, not criminals

There are 6,000 speed cameras in the UK, 8,000 number plate recognition devices with technology on the way to photograph anyone using their mobile phone at the wheel or not wearing a seat belt. Last March the London Metropolitan Police took possession of 'eye in the sky' cameras that can read number plates from helicopters thousands of feet above the ground, and remotely-controlled 'drone' aircraft are to be used in Scotland to spy on the people. This very week members of Parliament called for even more speed cameras when even a government report found that 85% of road accidents are not connected to drivers breaking the speed limit.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Mon May 21, 2007 2:09 pm

We have technology to identify faces in crowds and 'suspicious behaviour patterns' with 'lie detectors' being planned for airports. The so-called Oyster card used on the London underground requires people to register their personal details so that their every journey can be logged down to the minute. There are plans to expand this around the country. As a result of Blair's Regulation of Investigatory Powers Bill, passed in 2000, internet providers have to record our surfing activity and provide this information to MI5. Phone calls, emails and faxes are being monitored by the Echelon spy network that searches for key words and voice recognition patterns.

London Transport poster

All this detailed information is kept on a giant data base that connects all other data bases and allows a stream of 'public bodies' to access everything about you and your life. Even not registering your name and address on the electoral roll will be subject to a fine of 2,500 pounds.

The Children Act of 2004 creates a database to record detailed information about our children right down to their eating habits and this can be accessed by police, doctors, social workers and teachers. In July 2006, three 12-year-olds in the English West Midlands had their DNA taken after being arrested by police for ... breaking branches while building a den. DNA is now taken as a matter of course when anyone is arrested and this is kept on file even if they are subsequently not charged or found to be innocent.

The scale of what is happening is simply staggering.

But the key to global control is microchipped people - that's what they want more than anything. Even now, you don't have to take those Underground Oyster cards out of your pocket because they are read automatically by radiowaves and it's the same with the new microchipped passports. It is only one step to embed this technology permanently under the skin. In December 2005, the Giove A satellite was sent into orbit as part of the Galileo European navigation system. This will allow 'Galileo chips' to be embedded in devices of every kind, but the real target is humanity.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Mon May 21, 2007 2:10 pm

The United States appears to lead the world in the use of human microchips thanks to the vociferous work of a deeply sinister company that has been identified in many books since many years ago. This is the VeriChip Corporation and it is part of an operation called Applied Digital.

These 'VeriChips' are being marketed as a way of keeping us safe or, as the company says on its website --'Safeguarding what's important to you'. In the interests of accuracy it should add: 'So long as freedom is not important to you'. The VeriChip Corporation is now aggressively marketing human microchips to hospitals (the 'VeriMed Physician Network'), for Alzheimer's patients, and as security devices. In 2006, two employees of a company in Ohio were chipped to access a secure area.

Retchingdog · Post by **Retchingdog** » Sat May 26, 2007 10:13 am

Truthbringer, you are ever so right. I admire your insight.

The real, underlying, problem of this planet, however, is a demographic one. Just too many humans. And all natural selection mechanisms are being undermined.

Just imagine the global population being reduced to say, 25 % of the actual number. That would solve a lot of problems and gasoline back to 18 cents a gallon, if not less.

I wonder how many times the idea of drastically reducing the world's population has played in the minds of those who are in power.

Having a HUGE population to control is one thing. Controlling it effectively is another. Even with very sophisticated means.

The Retching Dog.

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You cannot control a happy crowd.

Make them angry, so you can justify your barbaric ways of controlling them.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat May 26, 2007 3:30 pm

Retchingdog;622383 wrote: Truthbringer, you are ever so right. I admire your insight.

The real, underlying, problem of this planet, however, is a demographic one. Just too many humans. And all natural selection mechanisms are being undermined.

Just imagine the global population being reduced to say, 25 % of the actual number. That would solve a lot of problems and gasoline back to 18 cents a gallon, if not less.

I wonder how many times the idea of drastically reducing the world's population has played in the minds of those who are in power.

Having a HUGE population to control is one thing. Controlling it effectively is another. Even with very sophisticated means.

The Retching Dog.

_______________________________________

You cannot control a happy crowd.

Make them angry, so you can justify your barbaric ways of controlling them.

I disagree 100%. Someone once told me that if you took the entire population of the World and put people side by side right next to eachother that you could fit them all into the state of Texas.

Mother Nature will handle the natural population control of the World. This was never, and has never, been a job that belonged to Man.

Fear convinces a man to attempt to do things that are not meant for him to do.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat May 26, 2007 3:48 pm

The more i read the more sinister this becomes. Control is what it's all about. of course if you don't want the chip embedded in your body i'm sure for a price there will be those who can remove it for you. But then you could't access anything that was linked to the chip. Oh George Orwell would be rolling in his grave. Divide and conquer by instilling fear (of terror) into your population. Pass laws that "protect" and voila we have achieved what the nazi's wanted, total control of everything. Cameras with speakers to issue commands? I can see a lot of deaf people getting into trouble for no good reason.

People have said before that they could see the merits, but all I see are the danger signals, and when you take this to these extremes everything our forfathers fought and died for is lost.

They have used 9/11 to gain everthing they wanted in this area, and have fed us all on a diet of b/s ever since. What is the final agenda once total control in the"free world " has been achieved? A modern form of slavery from birth to death in the service of the state. Will they sort out the weaker members of our society for "special" treatment? You bet they will. It will be a case of if you can't be productive you are of little use except for spare parts.forced "euthenasia" or abortion will become the norm to purify the gene pool and with all our rights now taken away we will have little chance of challenging anything.

This is frightening stuff indeed (for those of us who attempt to be free)

in my country the powers that be already have more than enough information on each of us, so anything on top is just tightening the reigns and rubbing our noses in it. An orderly society is one thing, an opressed one is another.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat May 26, 2007 3:51 pm

Illegal aliens is only a cover story for the national ID card. First the card and then the chip. Once we have the chip implanted in us we will be slaves of the NWO. They will be able to track our every move using satellites. This is how cattle is controlled. The NWO works in this way, in installments. Once we swallow the card, they will start planting stories in the news about how inefficient it is and how much better the chip would be. These stories prepare us for what is coming so that when it really comes it isn't that shocking any more. This way we don't see what the real plan is.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat May 26, 2007 3:55 pm

The dictator is in power and is actually a cabal that goes by many names, chief among them being the Council on Foreign Relations. People are correct in saying that not all members of Congress are in on this but enough on them are that they can skew the direction that the country is headed in. Whether they believe that the National ID Card is to control illegal immigrants or has a more darker motion, the result will be the same. It will erode our liberties.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat May 26, 2007 4:03 pm

The authors of this week's report say that 'the surveillance society has come about us without us realising'. But that depends on which way you have been looking all these years. People have been warning about this from the early 90s and so it has only 'crept up' on people because they haven't been paying attention. When you do, it's been obvious.

People like Professor Kevin Warwick of Britain's Reading University have been very public supporters of microchipping and it was he who suggested the microchipping of children after the murders of ten-year-old Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman in 2002. Warwick was chipped himself amid great publicity so that he could interact with technology through a connection to his central nervous system. His website says:

'Kevin Warwick has taken the first steps ... using himself as a guinea pig test-subject receiving, by surgical operation, technological implants connected to his central nervous system ...

... Overriding everything, at the expense of a normal life, is Kevin's all encompassing scientific quest and desire to be a Cyborg ... part human, part machine.'

Warwick is the one in the middle

But Warwick's level of knowledge is not in the same universe as that available to the secret projects that are waiting to foist the real deal on humanity. This week's report on the gathering surveillance focussed on tracking people through microchipping and not on the other aspect of all this - controlling thoughts, emotions and thus behaviour.

Thought patterns can be transmitted through the chips that the target takes to be their own and this can go as far as generating apparent 'voices in the head' and hallucinations. Forget fixing 'elections' through dodgy voting machines if we are stupid enough to succumb to the chip. There will be no need.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat May 26, 2007 4:09 pm

As one article put it:

"Every thought, reaction, hearing, and visual observation causes a certain neurological potential, spikes, and patterns in the brain and its electromagnetic fields, which can now be decoded into thoughts, pictures, and voices. Electromagnetic stimulation can therefore change a person's brainwaves and affect muscular activity, causing painful muscular cramps experienced as torture..."

The NSA's electronic surveillance system can simultaneously follow and handle millions of people. Each of us has a unique bioelectrical resonance frequency in the brain, just as we have unique fingerprints. With electromagnetic frequency (EMF) brain stimulation fully coded, pulsating electromagnetic signals can be sent to the brain causing the desired voice and visual effects to be experienced by the target. This is a form of electronic warfare. U.S. astronauts were implanted before they were sent into space so their thoughts could be followed and all their emotions could be registered 24 hours a day.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat May 26, 2007 4:11 pm

The state-of-the-art chips today are far smaller than a human hair and carry fantastic potential for control. So while this week's public report is a very good contribution to warning people of their plight, it is still operating at a limited level of knowledge and understanding.

Richard Thomas, the UK Information Commissioner, said:

"We're waking up in a surveillance society and when you start to see how many apparently beneficial schemes are in place to monitor people's activities and movements that does raise concerns. There are risks the information is going to be mishandled."

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat May 26, 2007 4:12 pm

The point that is missed, however, is that it is already being purposely mishandled because what is happening is not the consequence of random technological development posing risks to freedom. It is being introduced for the very reasons of control.

Richard Thomas said that many of the surveillance schemes were 'public sector driven and the individual has no choice about whether they take part'. So the next obvious question, surely, is what is the force that dictates this surveillance policy through the public sector like the government and police and through 'private' business? This is the question that most people, including those involved in 'civil liberties', never seem to ask or grasp.

Even now, with Orwell's world looking us in the eye, people who should know better still don't appear to see what we are facing here. The civil rights group, Liberty, is among them. A spokesman said this week, in response to the report, that they had nothing against these surveillance technologies in themselves, but the danger was that they would not be 'properly regulated' and people could find themselves living in 'a surveillance society'.

'Find themselves'?? We're already there for goodness sake -helloooo, intelligent life calling Planet Earth. It is this state of denial that we need to overcome. With each new technological imposition I hear it said that we are 'heading towards a Big Brother state' when we are already in one. Maybe it's comforting to think that somehow we can still stop it happening if we keep projecting our thoughts into the 'future'. But we can't stop it in the future folks because it is already here. We either act now and try to handle this one ourselves. Or we give it to God. There is no sitting on the fence with this one. Otherwise it's going to roll right over us.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat May 26, 2007 4:21 pm

What we can do is dismantle it and stop its further invasion, but this can only happen if we stop denying where we already are. It's like saying we will be struck by a tornado if we don't do something when we are already 50 feet off the ground spinning like a top.

I see the same with so many in the anti-war groups who protest about the 'evil' of the American and British governments while denying that the same force will also control whoever replaces them. This was encapsulated by an interview with Madonna on BBC Television.

she was asked about her protests against Bush and the war in Iraq and she said that anyone who had children would be instinctively horrified by what was happening to Iraqi kids. Fair enough, but then she was asked who she would like to be the next US President and she replied ... Hillary Clinton. When it comes to the capacity for generating evil, Clinton is more than a match even for Boy Bush, but Madonna has bought the window dressing and the image-making that promotes the Republicans and the Democrats as different 'sides'.

Only when we see the one force manipulating through all 'sides' and the same force orchestrating the Orwellian society through both the public and private sectors will the million dollars drop and not, as with this week's report, merely the penny.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat May 26, 2007 4:22 pm

Most importantly, we need to understand the true nature of the surveillance conspiracy and the crucial part played by Human microchipping.

If PEOPLE say “no” to just one thing, they should say “no” to the microchip.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Sat May 26, 2007 4:38 pm

Truth Bringer---------I don't read your posts in depth, I just scan them from time to time. I have a wee bit of a problem with the credibility and exhibited paronoia of those that talk to themselves.

Personally, I have no fear or problem with someone accessing info on me via a National Identity Card. There is already a shitpot full of info on me as is, for those willing to suss it out including medical data. Secondly, we live in a society where we utilize bridges, highways, airports, libraries, and a whole host of facilities that are funded by local, state and federal programs, funded of course by we the taxpayer. If government wants to better identify it's citizens by having everyone carry an ID card, then that's a small price to pay for living in a civilized society. Of course, we could go live on a desert island somewhere, by ourselves and have all the privacy we want.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat May 26, 2007 4:54 pm

Lon;622626 wrote: Truth Bringer---------I don't read your posts in depth, I just scan them from time to time. I have a wee bit of a problem with the credibility and exhibited paronoia of those that talk to themselves.

Personally, I have no fear or problem with someone accessing info on me via a National Identity Card. There is already a shitpot full of info on me as is, for those willing to suss it out including medical data. Secondly, we live in a society where we utilize bridges, highways, airports, libraries, and a whole host of facilities that are funded by local, state and federal programs, funded of course by we the taxpayer. If government wants to better identify it's citizens by having everyone carry an ID card, then that's a small price to pay for living in a civilized society. Of course, we could go live on a desert island somewhere, by ourselves and have all the privacy we want.

What they have planned for us in the future will make what restrictions we have placed on us now look like childsplay.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Sat May 26, 2007 5:00 pm

TruthBringer;622632 wrote: What they have planned for us in the future will make what restrictions we have placed on us now look like childsplay.

And of course as a TRuth Bringer, you are privy to what THEY have planned for us, is that right? Care to share some of that future with us?

What restrictions do we presently have that bother you?

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat May 26, 2007 5:06 pm

"It is completely possible for a person to be released from prison, and to still not be free."

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Sat May 26, 2007 5:44 pm

TruthBringer;622640 wrote: "It is completely possible for a person to be released from prison, and to still not be free."

Please explain FREE to me as you see it.

JacksDad · Post by **JacksDad** » Sat May 26, 2007 5:56 pm

magenta flame;622669 wrote: It's called "having priors"

:yh_rotfl

HF girl.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Sat May 26, 2007 5:57 pm

magenta flame;622669 wrote: It's called "having priors"

Gotcha---------you were incarcerated for something I take it. Would you care to share your story. I am not being judgemental, just trying to understand your line of thinking.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:11 pm

There has even been talk that the MicroChip that they are going to try putting in us is not RFID, but that it's instead a biochip which is more advance. Unlike RFID, it has been said that this chip will be tracked by a database called GIG (Global Information Grid) and not the current database Digital Angel.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Global Information Grid (GIG) is an all-encompassing communications project of the United States Department of Defense. It is defined as the globally interconnected, end-to-end set of information capabilities, associated processes, and personnel for collecting, processing, storing, disseminating, and managing information on demand to warfighters, policymakers, and support personnel. The GIG includes all owned and leased communications and computing systems and services, software (including applications), system data, security services, and other associated services necessary to achieve information superiority for the United States military. It is the physical manifestation of the network-centric warfare doctrine. The GIG was envisioned by the Department of Defense Chief Information Officer on September 22, 1999 and was officially mandated by an overarching directive from the Deputy Secretary of Defense on September 19, 2002. Noteworthy progress has been made since then.

Although the lofty objective of the Global Information Grid has not yet been realized, computer-enabled communication between soldiers and commanders in the battlefield have been successful, most notably during the 2003 invasion of Iraq. This ability is considered an early GIG component.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Information_Grid

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:27 pm

The venerable cell phone is a dead giveaway as to your location, with every call you make..even if you are not calling......plus they may be listening to your conversation even if its turned off.

We are being very expertly and very easily into this big brother scenario.

Where are the revolutionaries and the genius misfits that are going to find the ultimate way of turning the spying against the spyers...?

How are we going to defeat such a gigantic octopus now?

The words of good ole 60s mentor Tim Leary come to mind "turn on tune in drop out"

Except the hidaways are fast being filled with the affluent and the successfull.

There is a sort of reverse osmosis of the wealthy from the big cities to more secure rural quarters for safety.....

There used to be places where it was isolated enough to hope for some respite,at least for a little longer from the prying spies of our Goverment and its very long armed laws....

It will take a miracle of a different order to save us from this well greased set of skids we're travelling towards absolute control.....

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:39 pm

But it's ok though you know why? Because you can control countries and societies, governments, you can control corporations, family owned businesses, banks, the media, the police, and you can even control individuals. But no amount of greedy people on this entire planet will ever have the ability to control something as basic and fundamental as when the Sun rises and sets or even something as simple and important as the cycles of the Moon. And they will never, EVER be able to control something like that. Because they didn't create it, and they don't own it. And all those ****in power mongers can do is worship such events.

We can screw up all over the Earth, and we can keep screwing up over and over and over, like a damn broken record. The Earth has become a giant sandbox prison for so many encapsulated Souls. It was never meant for that. But many chose the dark path, and they have become like ****in monkeys playing around in their own filth. But you watch what happens when these same control freaks that have their hands all over the Earth, decide to spread their destruction outside of it. You watch what happens when they decide to take their destruction into other parts of our Universe. All of Humanity along with every single dark Soul that resides on our Earth would be brought to our knees by the very same laws that allow us all to exist.

Everything on the Earth except for the energy contained within it is a reflection of Light. EVERYTHING! Nothing else is real! It will all eventually pass away. And I don't know about you guys but I am so sick and tired of trying to cling to reflections of Light. The only thing real is the Light itself. And if a person could touch that Light for even just a second, than they would never want to let go of it. But the sad fact is that so many Souls may never get the chance to touch that Light. Because it is their own choices and actions that keep them from reaching it.

For just one day, take every physical object in your life that you have attatched extreme value to, and take away the value that you have placed on each of them in your mind. Watch how much pressure you will have released for yourselves. Watch how much more peaceful your life starts to become.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:43 pm

TB, take a break. :-6

Go outside and sit in the sun and read a comic book.

Chill out.

Life doesn't last that long.

I hate the government too but damn, Sam.

Pick your fights. You're all over the place.

Midnight Sun · Post by **Midnight Sun** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:15 pm

RedGlitter;627453 wrote: TB, take a break. :-6

Go outside and sit in the sun and read a comic book.

Chill out.

Life doesn't last that long.

I hate the government too but damn, Sam.

Pick your fights. You're all over the place.

Thank you. I can't believe that I just read through all that nonsense. But then again, I guess as a member of our Military-Industrial Complex I part of the problem that TB is fighting his war against.

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:24 pm

Yeah, most of us don't read all the way through that stuff. We pretty much think TB is talking to him/herself. I just snapped one day and had to tell him/her to chill a bit. :wah:

RedGlitter · Post by **RedGlitter** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:49 pm

Ok, well I'll tell you that I for one, don't want a general national ID card.

I'm sure it's coming.

I don't even like having a SS number and I resent having to put my number, which is the key to my banking, insurance, credit history, criminal record, medical history, parentage, etc, etc...all kinds of private stuff that doesn't concern anybody else, on every form I fill out.

People say "I have nothing to hide, it doesn't bother me." Yeah? Well, they may as well say "Take my rights. I'm not using them!"

That's my take.

This subject p.isses me off.

I just never replied because I know we wish this thread would die.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:51 pm

What the underlying military-industrial-financial crime syndicate that controls our government is doing, both domestically and internationally, is so horrifying that it is literally traumatizing to consciously bear witness to it, to experience it. When we become traumatized, we become stuck, literally "frozen in time," as our ability to creatively respond and mobilize ourselves in the present moment into effective action in the world becomes in-operative.

When we become overwhelmed by trauma, we are not able to creatively express our internal experience in a way that dis-charges what has been triggered in us. We feel impotent. We are unable to give voice to our experience, as our power to be ourselves has become foreign to us. We become mute. When we become traumatized, we lose touch with our inner voice, which is our guiding spirit, our true genius.

The Controllers could only be getting away with the atrocities they are perpetrating not only because there are an insufficient number of people who see what they are doing, but because there are enough people who see what is happening and remain silent.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:52 pm

To quote Judith Herman, author of Trauma and Abuse, "The ordinary response to atrocities is to banish them from consciousness."

Certain violations of the social compact are too terrible to utter aloud: this is the meaning of the word unspeakable." When our nation is seen as a family system composed of interrelated roles that do not exist in isolation from each other but rather in co-relation to one another, the people in the role of the abuser, The Controller's and their regime, depend upon the tendency for most people to split-off from and deny the horror of the atrocities they are perpetrating to be able to get away with them. When we deny what is happening, we are not able to speak about it, for to speak about what is happening is to invest our experience with a living reality, which is the very thing our denial ensures doesn't happen.

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:57 pm

As perpetrators of the abuse, the Controllers will do everything in their power to promote our denial, pretense, and silence. Our becoming silent is the very thing which allows them to literally get away with murder. They need to induce our denial, which is an internal cover-up, as a necessary requirement for them to act out their role as "perpetraitor." Denial is an integral dynamic which sustains the pathology of the victim-perpetrator collusion. The abuser's refusal to hear the voices of those they are exploiting is crucial to their continued domination.

When the abuse is so horrific, it forcibly overwhelms the human psyche so as to split the psyche from itself and shatter its wholeness, which is the very root of trauma. When the atrocity is so inhumane, we dis-associate from the experience, creating a self-protective amnesia for ourselves. An (arche)typical response to trauma is to simply "forget about it" and try to go on with our life. Like Bush himself counseled us after 9/11, we should just continue shopping.

It is the strangest experience to walk around town and see so many people just going about their day, drinking their cup of coffee in their favorite cafÃ© and reading the sports page as if nothing out of the ordinary is happening, while in the same moment on another part of the planet bombs are being dropped on innocent people with our names on them. A more perfect image of collective denial is hard to imagine. "Hey, did you hear the Yankees took two yesterday?"

TruthBringer · Post by **TruthBringer** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:58 pm

To be in denial is both an unconscious, primitive, and magical defense, as well as on some level also being a conscious choice. There is a collective denial that most of us support by acting out our own personal denial in our individual lives, which in turn simply feeds into our collective madness. To the extent that we aren't completely outraged with what our government is doing, we are in denial, for what could we possibly be thinking? To the degree we are in denial about the horror that is playing out in our world, we are, to that extent, complicit.

When the abuse is so overwhelming, we become numbed, desensitized, and anesthetized, as if a psychological "operation" (psy-ops) is being done on us. Instead of being enlivened by the abuse, we become "deadened," as if we have become dehumanized. Devalued, we become incapable of "feeling." In this covert operation, our ability to respond creatively and responsibly becomes disabled. We can become incapacitated with inexpressible rage, hopeless despair and a feeling of worthlessness. The worst of the abuse isn't even so much what the external abuse actually is, but what it creates in us internally.