The next time a Black leftist / White Liberal bangs on about whites are all inherently racist, that blacks are victims of white racism and that whites should pay reparations for slavery - then just remind them of this one little fact ;
Over 360,000 white people died in the American Civil War on the Union side in order for blacks to be freed from slavery.
Therefore Whites paid their dues for slavery with the blood just under half a million white men and women who died to free black slaves.
In fact Blacks in America should get down on their knees every day and give thanks for the hundreds of thousands of whites who died so they could be free.
Instead we have professional spongers and race relations extortionists demanding reparations - when the reality is that whites paid the historic bill for black slavery with their own blood.
The next time some liberal idiot calls America a 'racist nation' remind them of two facts ;
1) That in todays America it is blacks who are the majority of criminals and whites who are the predominant victims of black criminality along with their fellow blacks
and
2) That todays Blacks owe Whites a debt that they can never repay - the debt of 360,000 whites dying so they can be free
The tragedy is that the reward for those hundreds of thousands of white deaths is that many ignorant Blacks in America now have a massive chip on their shoulder about 'racism' such as when a white woman is afraid when a gang of blacks appears when they walk the street at night.
As the excellent article below reveals - Because blacks in America are the predominant racial group involved in robbery, drug dealing, murder and rape they will face being pulled over in their cars as suspects in such crimes. If blacks did not disproportionately commit such crimes then they would not be the primary suspects in such crimes.
It may be a hassle to have a cop pull you over if you are black - but when you are white and walking in a black area then you face being shot, raped, mugged and killed because of your race.
That is the true racial legacy of slavery - whites died to flee black slaves and then the descendants of those black slaves became racists against whites and inflicted a crime wave of vast proportions against whites, using the rhetoric of slavery to excuse and minimise their own racist crimes against whites.
how often do we hear some apologist for black criminality say 'the legacy of slavery caused the dysfunctionalism we see in the black community today and therefore the legacy of slavery is modern black criminality, poverty and social problems'.
BULLSHIT !
Each one of those 640,000 white men and women who died in the Civil War were mothers, fathers, brothers, daughters and sons - they left behind one parent families, white families in poverty, the destroyed entire white families and destroyed generations of white families and white communities and left generation after generation in poverty.
The white community of America was devastated first by the war of independence and then the Civil War. The South was ruined and impoverished - yet by the sweat of their own brow and by the strength of their own labour the South rose again.
Yet we do not see the same level of dysfunctionalism in the present white community even though the white community suffered far more long term social and generational trauma and damage than the black community ever did under slavery - the slaves simply stopped picking cotton, fathers simply picked up their kids and wives, moved elsewhere and carried on living. The slaves kept their families together as they did not die in the war, unlike the white families who were devastated.
It is the white community who were the primary victims of slavery - not the black community.
The white community was totally devastated by the deaths of the 690,000 men and women of both sides who died during the war - but the whites did not end up like the black community today.
Its just a pity most white liberals dont have to live in black areas or have to exist in the racialised US prison system where black gangs target lone whites for rape and violence simply because they are white - then they would know what real racism is.
( And here are some facts on Blacks owning Black slaves that the media and reperationists do not like to ever talk about ;
Black Slave Owners Civil War Article by Robert M Grooms )
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oscar;1249365 wrote: Over 360,000 white people died in the American Civil War on the Union side in order for blacks to be freed from slavery.
No they didn't. They died because the Northern states were more industrialised and the Southern economy, althoug agrarian was, at the time, stronger.
oscar;1249365 wrote: 1) That in todays America it is blacks who are the majority of criminals and whites who are the predominant victims of black criminality along with their fellow blacks
This doesn't make sense....
oscar;1249365 wrote: BULLSHIT !
This whole article certainly is....
oscar;1249365 wrote: The white community of America was devastated first by the war of independence and then the Civil War.
And what, exactly happened to the Native Americans (or First Nation Americans or Indians)?
oscar;1249365 wrote: It is the white community who were the primary victims of slavery - not the black community.
Utter bullshit. The primary victims of slavery were and are the slaves.
oscar;1249365 wrote: The white community was totally devastated by the deaths of the 690,000 men and women of both sides who died during the war - but the whites did not end up like the black community today.
Can't you at least be consistent? Thos is the third time you've quoted a number - it's also the third number. You began by quoting the figure of 360,000, then it became 640,000. Which is it?
oscar;1249365 wrote: ( And here are some facts on Blacks owning Black slaves that the media and reperationists do not like to ever talk about ;
It has never been denied that some blacks were slave-owners, yet what you do not admit is that some of those slave-owners were slaves themselves.
If this is what passes for a historical analysis in the U.S., I despair.
No they didn't. They died because the Northern states were more industrialised and the Southern economy, althoug agrarian was, at the time, stronger.
oscar;1249365 wrote: 1) That in todays America it is blacks who are the majority of criminals and whites who are the predominant victims of black criminality along with their fellow blacks
This doesn't make sense....
oscar;1249365 wrote: BULLSHIT !
This whole article certainly is....
oscar;1249365 wrote: The white community of America was devastated first by the war of independence and then the Civil War.
And what, exactly happened to the Native Americans (or First Nation Americans or Indians)?
oscar;1249365 wrote: It is the white community who were the primary victims of slavery - not the black community.
Utter bullshit. The primary victims of slavery were and are the slaves.
oscar;1249365 wrote: The white community was totally devastated by the deaths of the 690,000 men and women of both sides who died during the war - but the whites did not end up like the black community today.
Can't you at least be consistent? Thos is the third time you've quoted a number - it's also the third number. You began by quoting the figure of 360,000, then it became 640,000. Which is it?
oscar;1249365 wrote: ( And here are some facts on Blacks owning Black slaves that the media and reperationists do not like to ever talk about ;
It has never been denied that some blacks were slave-owners, yet what you do not admit is that some of those slave-owners were slaves themselves.
If this is what passes for a historical analysis in the U.S., I despair.
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I don't really remember the Civil war being soley about slavery... in fact i think it was the Union who was cutting off the economic growth in the South that really caused the drama.... I could be wrong... or not
Smoke signals ftw!
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Oscar said:
"Over 360,000 white people died in the American Civil War on the Union side in order for blacks to be freed from slavery."
Not true---------there was conscription and not all were there by choice. There were many, many racists in the North and freeing the slaves was not a priority for many.
"Over 360,000 white people died in the American Civil War on the Union side in order for blacks to be freed from slavery."
Not true---------there was conscription and not all were there by choice. There were many, many racists in the North and freeing the slaves was not a priority for many.
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In American Holocaust (1992), David Stannard estimates that some 30 to 60 million Africans died being enslaved. He claims a 50% mortality rate among new slaves while being gathered and stored in Africa, a 10% mortality among the survivors while crossing the ocean, and another 50% mortality rate in the first "seasoning" phase of slave labor. Overall, he estimates a 75-80% mortality rate in transit.
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oh since we're at it... White people owe my people money for taking our land :-2 hmm nope, that still sounds ridiculous.
Smoke signals ftw!
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Oscar, are you seriously claiming you wrote that inflammatory material? Or are you poking the fire with someone else's stick and sitting back to watch the flames for a while?
There's a world of difference between slavery and racism. What's slavery if it's not the refusal of civil rights to a group of people for some reason or other? Imprisonment is, to all intents and purposes, slavery by another name. Slavery wasn't a colour issue in the US, it was an economic choice. There were plenty enough white slaves over there to show that. Hundreds were transported into New World fixed-term slavery by Judge Jeffries from round Bristol and they were just West Country dissenters.
What came after the abolition of slavery, that was racism. The Jim Crow laws, the violent suppression of rights to vote, the hundred years of post-civil-war segregation. And when did you ever hear a Black leftist / White Liberal bang on about whites are all inherently racist? I've never heard one. Racism's a choice. Some people think it's amusing to wear the mask, regardless of good taste.
There's a world of difference between slavery and racism. What's slavery if it's not the refusal of civil rights to a group of people for some reason or other? Imprisonment is, to all intents and purposes, slavery by another name. Slavery wasn't a colour issue in the US, it was an economic choice. There were plenty enough white slaves over there to show that. Hundreds were transported into New World fixed-term slavery by Judge Jeffries from round Bristol and they were just West Country dissenters.
What came after the abolition of slavery, that was racism. The Jim Crow laws, the violent suppression of rights to vote, the hundred years of post-civil-war segregation. And when did you ever hear a Black leftist / White Liberal bang on about whites are all inherently racist? I've never heard one. Racism's a choice. Some people think it's amusing to wear the mask, regardless of good taste.
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spot;1249556 wrote: Oscar, are you seriously claiming you wrote that inflammatory material? Or are you poking the fire with someone else's stick and sitting back to watch the flames for a while?
I have merely done that of which you yourself are guilty of on many posts Sir. Copied and pasted and article I found on the web.
I have merely done that of which you yourself are guilty of on many posts Sir. Copied and pasted and article I found on the web.
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oscar;1249557 wrote: I have merely done that of which you yourself are guilty of on many posts Sir. Copied and pasted and article I found on the web.
No, you posted unattributed text with no indication it wasn't your own work.
By all means find so much as a single example of my doing that anywhere among my thousands of posts here. How dare you suggest I've ever stooped to such behaviour?
No, you posted unattributed text with no indication it wasn't your own work.
By all means find so much as a single example of my doing that anywhere among my thousands of posts here. How dare you suggest I've ever stooped to such behaviour?
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When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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spot;1249564 wrote: No, you posted unattributed text with no indication it wasn't your own work.
By all means find so much as a single example of my doing that anywhere among my thousands of posts here. How dare you suggest I've ever stooped to such behaviour?
Whatever Spot... I'm in no mood right now to argue. I find the article and put it on to see what folks opinions were. At no point did I ever say that the writing was my own. If you don't like my making accusations about you, then don't make un-founded accusations about me. Goodnight. By the way... Do you fancy going back to that 9/11 thread?
By all means find so much as a single example of my doing that anywhere among my thousands of posts here. How dare you suggest I've ever stooped to such behaviour?
Whatever Spot... I'm in no mood right now to argue. I find the article and put it on to see what folks opinions were. At no point did I ever say that the writing was my own. If you don't like my making accusations about you, then don't make un-founded accusations about me. Goodnight. By the way... Do you fancy going back to that 9/11 thread?
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oscar;1249566 wrote: Whatever Spot... I'm in no mood right now to argue. I find the article and put it on to see what folks opinions were. At no point did I ever say that the writing was my own. If you don't like my making accusations about you, then don't make un-founded accusations about me. Goodnight. By the way... Do you fancy going back to that 9/11 thread?
So now you're saying the opening post doesn't even necessarily represent your own opinion?
I'll get back to that other thread when I'm able to. Right at the moment it's not possible. I keep telling you that but you seem unable to grasp the fact.
Nobody ever does say that a post was original text. That's the underlying assumption for all unattributed posts. Who, out of interest, did write that extremely nasty piece you foisted onto us?
So now you're saying the opening post doesn't even necessarily represent your own opinion?
I'll get back to that other thread when I'm able to. Right at the moment it's not possible. I keep telling you that but you seem unable to grasp the fact.
Nobody ever does say that a post was original text. That's the underlying assumption for all unattributed posts. Who, out of interest, did write that extremely nasty piece you foisted onto us?
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When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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Oscar
You Wrote This B. S. just to pull "Spot" out for a comment.
BTW - I'm Black - I'm not on my knees - I won't Praise & Bow to any one
Don't Copy & Paste any thing that you Can't Back Up / Support...
This is insulting / Slander
Patsy
You Wrote This B. S. just to pull "Spot" out for a comment.
BTW - I'm Black - I'm not on my knees - I won't Praise & Bow to any one
Don't Copy & Paste any thing that you Can't Back Up / Support...
This is insulting / Slander
Patsy
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All posts that have been copied, Please put a link to the source.
Link to source;
21st Century British Nationalism: How to Shut Up A Black Radical With One Sentence
Link to source;
21st Century British Nationalism: How to Shut Up A Black Radical With One Sentence
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oscar, this stinks. What are you doing?
Shoddy thinking of the worst variety in support of a nasty cause.
Shoddy thinking of the worst variety in support of a nasty cause.
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Oscar,
This is truly awful and certainly not what many Americans, in my area, think....Why would you post this
This is truly awful and certainly not what many Americans, in my area, think....Why would you post this
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this smacks of the BNP
oscar i know things are tough for you right now
but posting this horrible crap is just ..... well horrible really
i have found when i have posted ..horrible crap myself it says much more about the horrible crap happening in my life and how i'm dealing with my horrible crap than the horrible crap i have posted
have a nice day
oscar i know things are tough for you right now
but posting this horrible crap is just ..... well horrible really
i have found when i have posted ..horrible crap
myself it says much more about the horrible crap happening in my life and how i'm dealing with my horrible crap than the horrible crap i have posted have a nice day
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Abbey
don't try to bail Oscar out with a script being noted.
Oscar stated she was in the mood to argue - well, Dear stand behind this article.
Do you realize how many were killed in the Vietnam War.?
More than all the WARS combined.
There wasn't any racism until the Slaves were freed
My Grandfather was owned / slaved by a plantation owner
My Grandfather went off to war - where does that put him regarding your article?
I say - Shine your own shoes Chic
Patsy
don't try to bail Oscar out with a script being noted.
Oscar stated she was in the mood to argue - well, Dear stand behind this article.
Do you realize how many were killed in the Vietnam War.?
More than all the WARS combined.
There wasn't any racism until the Slaves were freed
My Grandfather was owned / slaved by a plantation owner
My Grandfather went off to war - where does that put him regarding your article?
I say - Shine your own shoes Chic
Patsy
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Omni_Skittles;1249484 wrote: oh since we're at it... White people owe my people money for taking our land :-2 hmm nope, that still sounds ridiculous.
oh and since were at it....immigrants that move here from their own country's have taken over Canada and our jobs.
and some sit around all day drinking beer and sucking the government out of money, which comes from my pocket.:sneaky:
Myself and others, who are white Caucasian, born and raised here are now the minority.
shall we all go at it now?:rolleyes:
oh and since were at it....immigrants that move here from their own country's have taken over Canada and our jobs.
and some sit around all day drinking beer and sucking the government out of money, which comes from my pocket.:sneaky:
Myself and others, who are white Caucasian, born and raised here are now the minority.
shall we all go at it now?:rolleyes:
Life is just to short for drama.
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Odie
Don't pick on Omni skittles
go ahead & pick on me - Omni's example was just that
This article which you seem the need to defend for your friend is inflammatory
slander - Don't start a tribe
Are you supporting this thread?
There's no catagory for NOW. Of course NOW whites maybe the minority due to border issues etc...
This thread is depecting UGLY - and OSCAR can defend herself & back her post.
This post is not a now 2009 - perhaps I'm wrong & Oscar can explain her comment.?????
I want my shoes BUFFED TOO - we call it a Spit Shine
Patsy
Don't pick on Omni skittles
go ahead & pick on me - Omni's example was just that
This article which you seem the need to defend for your friend is inflammatory
slander - Don't start a tribe
Are you supporting this thread?
There's no catagory for NOW. Of course NOW whites maybe the minority due to border issues etc...
This thread is depecting UGLY - and OSCAR can defend herself & back her post.
This post is not a now 2009 - perhaps I'm wrong & Oscar can explain her comment.?????
I want my shoes BUFFED TOO - we call it a Spit Shine
Patsy
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Patsy Warnick;1250293 wrote: Odie
Don't pick on Omni skittles
go ahead & pick on me - Omni's example was just that
This article which you seem the need to defend for your friend is inflammatory
slander - Don't start a tribe
Are you supporting this thread?
There's no catagory for NOW. Of course NOW whites maybe the minority due to border issues etc...
This thread is depecting UGLY - and OSCAR can defend herself & back her post.
This post is not a now 2009 - perhaps I'm wrong & Oscar can explain her comment.?????
I want my shoes BUFFED TOO - we call it a Spit Shine
Patsy
Patsy, I was not picking on Omni or anyone here? I was just quoting what she had said.....'oh and since were at it'......'just a general example'
and why would I pick on you?
you took that totally out of content.
I am not supporting this thread whatsoever......I don't even know whats on here.......if I did, wouldn't I have posted sooner?:rolleyes:
Don't pick on Omni skittles
go ahead & pick on me - Omni's example was just that
This article which you seem the need to defend for your friend is inflammatory
slander - Don't start a tribe
Are you supporting this thread?
There's no catagory for NOW. Of course NOW whites maybe the minority due to border issues etc...
This thread is depecting UGLY - and OSCAR can defend herself & back her post.
This post is not a now 2009 - perhaps I'm wrong & Oscar can explain her comment.?????
I want my shoes BUFFED TOO - we call it a Spit Shine
Patsy
Patsy, I was not picking on Omni or anyone here? I was just quoting what she had said.....'oh and since were at it'......'just a general example'
and why would I pick on you?
you took that totally out of content.
I am not supporting this thread whatsoever......I don't even know whats on here.......if I did, wouldn't I have posted sooner?:rolleyes:
Life is just to short for drama.
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Patsy Warnick;1250287 wrote:
Oscar stated she was in the mood to argue - well, Dear stand behind this article..Patsy
Whatever Spot... I'm in no mood right now to argue
To clear that one up.....
Oscar stated she was in the mood to argue - well, Dear stand behind this article..Patsy
Whatever Spot... I'm in no mood right now to argue
To clear that one up.....
I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth
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Patsy Warnick;1249595 wrote: Oscar
You Wrote This B. S. just to pull "Spot" out for a comment.
BTW - I'm Black - I'm not on my knees - I won't Praise & Bow to any one
Don't Copy & Paste any thing that you Can't Back Up / Support...
This is insulting / Slander
Patsy
I totally agree
What I cant understand understand is why the forum garden allow for this kind of S**t to be placed as a thread.
I am truly insulted. I dont care about the colour of skin, the ethic origins of a person or what country they are from. I was brought up to believe that we are all equal.
Men of all colour and creed have fought for America.
If we start going down the road of counting how many whites died etc, it just shows how prejudiced people can be.
You Wrote This B. S. just to pull "Spot" out for a comment.
BTW - I'm Black - I'm not on my knees - I won't Praise & Bow to any one
Don't Copy & Paste any thing that you Can't Back Up / Support...
This is insulting / Slander
Patsy
I totally agree
What I cant understand understand is why the forum garden allow for this kind of S**t to be placed as a thread.
I am truly insulted. I dont care about the colour of skin, the ethic origins of a person or what country they are from. I was brought up to believe that we are all equal.
Men of all colour and creed have fought for America.
If we start going down the road of counting how many whites died etc, it just shows how prejudiced people can be.
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To put it charitably, the OP is a serious error of judgment. But, as well as showing the worst sides of a few of the FG family, this thread has also shown some amazingly positive and inspiring sides of some others of the FG family. All in all, I reckon we've come out ahead!!!
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AussiePam;1250656 wrote: To put it charitably, the OP is a serious error of judgment. But, as well as showing the worst sides of a few of the FG family, this thread has also shown some amazingly positive and inspiring sides of some others of the FG family. All in all, I reckon we've come out ahead!!!
As always Pam...very well said and so true. You, my friend, are always positive:-6;)
As always Pam...very well said and so true. You, my friend, are always positive:-6;)
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AussiePam;1250656 wrote: To put it charitably, the OP is a serious error of judgment. But, as well as showing the worst sides of a few of the FG family, this thread has also shown some amazingly positive and inspiring sides of some others of the FG family. All in all, I reckon we've come out ahead!!!
depending where abouts my post was meant to be in your post i agree with your post:rolleyes::D
depending where abouts my post was meant to be in your post i agree with your post:rolleyes::D
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farmer giles;1250662 wrote: depending where abouts my post was meant to be in your post i agree with your post:rolleyes::D
Hey Jim,
What's your new siggy?...sorry...off topic
Hey Jim,
What's your new siggy?...sorry...off topic
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Kathy Ellen;1250663 wrote: Hey Jim,
What's your new siggy?...sorry...off topic
its a bit weird a bit funny and its tiolet humor ...... and so is the siggy lol :yh_rotfl
What's your new siggy?...sorry...off topic
its a bit weird a bit funny and its tiolet humor ...... and so is the siggy lol :yh_rotfl
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What was the point in stinking up the forum with this garbage ?
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Wow! Anyway stirring the pot is one thing. I feel you should probably have began, I found this, what do you all think? By not citing where you found it and not applying some sort of disclaimer I can see where someone would feel it was your view.
Regardless of how the african american may have been treated it is still his or her responsibility to conduct themselves in a manner which benifits society. This is true of any individual of any color in any society!
Do we, this and future generations, owe the african americans any compensation for the way our ancestors treated them? I'm not sure. It would set a precedent for the Irish, the Chineese, the Native Americans and any other group that feels they were "wronged" by the bad white men. Conversly we could turn around and say you have been repaid through welfare payments. Sierra Leone was created as a homeland for you on the African continent should you decide to return there.
This is my challenge to anyone who complains about life in America: Try living somewhere else for awhile!
She has her faults but I love her anyway!
Regardless of how the african american may have been treated it is still his or her responsibility to conduct themselves in a manner which benifits society. This is true of any individual of any color in any society!
Do we, this and future generations, owe the african americans any compensation for the way our ancestors treated them? I'm not sure. It would set a precedent for the Irish, the Chineese, the Native Americans and any other group that feels they were "wronged" by the bad white men. Conversly we could turn around and say you have been repaid through welfare payments. Sierra Leone was created as a homeland for you on the African continent should you decide to return there.
This is my challenge to anyone who complains about life in America: Try living somewhere else for awhile!
She has her faults but I love her anyway!
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albertpollard;1306021 wrote:
This is my challenge to anyone who complains about life in America: Try living somewhere else for awhile!
She has her faults but I love her anyway!Well, I'm not complaiing and I love my homeland too.
But might I ask in which other countries you've lived? And what comparisons would you make to life in the USA?
Not trying to stip up a controversy, I'm just curious.
And if you HAVEN'T lived elsewhere, in what respects do you IMAGINE that life here would be better than in a country like - let's just pick one out of a hat - let's say Germany?
This is my challenge to anyone who complains about life in America: Try living somewhere else for awhile!
She has her faults but I love her anyway!Well, I'm not complaiing and I love my homeland too.
But might I ask in which other countries you've lived? And what comparisons would you make to life in the USA?
Not trying to stip up a controversy, I'm just curious.
And if you HAVEN'T lived elsewhere, in what respects do you IMAGINE that life here would be better than in a country like - let's just pick one out of a hat - let's say Germany?
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Not trying to stip up a controversy, I'm just curious.
I beg to differ sir! Just kidding. You bring up a good point and I am sure most people are satisfied with their quality of life in whatever country they live in, at least until they see what life could be like elsewhere.
I have not lived in another country, only visited while in the military, so my exposure is limited.
I am not sure about Germany, I was more thinking of less developed countries and countries you hear about that are in turmoil over their unemployment or financial situations (though those may be blown out of proportion by the press).
Any comments about how things are in your country? Really, I'd like to know more.
I beg to differ sir! Just kidding. You bring up a good point and I am sure most people are satisfied with their quality of life in whatever country they live in, at least until they see what life could be like elsewhere.
I have not lived in another country, only visited while in the military, so my exposure is limited.
I am not sure about Germany, I was more thinking of less developed countries and countries you hear about that are in turmoil over their unemployment or financial situations (though those may be blown out of proportion by the press).
Any comments about how things are in your country? Really, I'd like to know more.
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albertpollard;1306413 wrote: Not trying to stip up a controversy, I'm just curious.
I beg to differ sir! Just kidding. You bring up a good point and I am sure most people are satisfied with their quality of life in whatever country they live in, at least until they see what life could be like elsewhere.
I have not lived in another country, only visited while in the military, so my exposure is limited.
I am not sure about Germany, I was more thinking of less developed countries and countries you hear about that are in turmoil over their unemployment or financial situations (though those may be blown out of proportion by the press).
Any comments about how things are in your country? Really, I'd like to know more.Thanks for the reply! I'm an American, now back home, who lived in Germany for most of the previous decade, and also for shorter periods in Austria and in the Netherlands.
When I'm in Germany I miss things about the USA and when I'm here I miss things about Germany, I go back for a three-month visit (which is the longest one can stay without a visa) every couple of years. As an American of German ancestry I've never felt the least bit out of place there.
Both are wonderful countries, and It's no wonder that downtrodden people from the backward lands you mention pull up roots and in some cases risk their lives to get into the more modern and prosperous countries.
I beg to differ sir! Just kidding. You bring up a good point and I am sure most people are satisfied with their quality of life in whatever country they live in, at least until they see what life could be like elsewhere.
I have not lived in another country, only visited while in the military, so my exposure is limited.
I am not sure about Germany, I was more thinking of less developed countries and countries you hear about that are in turmoil over their unemployment or financial situations (though those may be blown out of proportion by the press).
Any comments about how things are in your country? Really, I'd like to know more.Thanks for the reply! I'm an American, now back home, who lived in Germany for most of the previous decade, and also for shorter periods in Austria and in the Netherlands.
When I'm in Germany I miss things about the USA and when I'm here I miss things about Germany, I go back for a three-month visit (which is the longest one can stay without a visa) every couple of years. As an American of German ancestry I've never felt the least bit out of place there.
Both are wonderful countries, and It's no wonder that downtrodden people from the backward lands you mention pull up roots and in some cases risk their lives to get into the more modern and prosperous countries.
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lou lou belle;1250551 wrote:
If we start going down the road of counting how many whites died etc, it just shows how prejudiced people can be.
How true. If we say that Anglo-Americans owe reparations to African-Americans, then don't the Saxons owe the Normans? Don't the Romans owe the Greeks? Doesn't the Mongol Horde owe everybody?
Heck, all of us Cro-Magnons should pay reparations to the Neanderthals!!
It's History. The Past. Stop whining, go into the forest, cut down a tree, build a bridge and...get over it.:rolleyes:
If we start going down the road of counting how many whites died etc, it just shows how prejudiced people can be.
How true. If we say that Anglo-Americans owe reparations to African-Americans, then don't the Saxons owe the Normans? Don't the Romans owe the Greeks? Doesn't the Mongol Horde owe everybody?
Heck, all of us Cro-Magnons should pay reparations to the Neanderthals!!
It's History. The Past. Stop whining, go into the forest, cut down a tree, build a bridge and...get over it.:rolleyes:
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Saint_;1306432 wrote: don't the Saxons owe the Normans?
I know its pedantic but that should probably be the other way round (1066 and all that ) but I know what you mean
I know its pedantic but that should probably be the other way round (1066 and all that ) but I know what you mean
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Snowfire;1306435 wrote: I know its pedantic but that should probably be the other way round (1066 and all that ) but I know what you mean
ROFL Damn...I knew I had that backwards!
ROFL Damn...I knew I had that backwards!
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Saint_;1306432 wrote: How true. If we say that Anglo-Americans owe reparations to African-Americans, then don't the Saxons owe the Normans? Don't the Romans owe the Greeks? Doesn't the Mongol Horde owe everybody?
Heck, all of us Cro-Magnons should pay reparations to the Neanderthals!!
It's History. The Past. Stop whining, go into the forest, cut down a tree, build a bridge and...get over it.:rolleyes:
It is my duty, as spokesperson for the TREES OF THE WORLD INTERNATIONAL MUTUAL PROTECTION INSTITUTE (TOTWIMPI) to protest at this uncalled for and totally irresponsible incitement to arboricide.
AussiePam
TOTWIMPI states:
If you humans can't get your evil act together except by exterminating yourselves, fine. The sooner the better. But leave our leaves out of your quarrels. Here we are working hard all day so you can breathe properly, and this is what we get. We've a good mind to go on strike. Then you'll be sorry.
[Ed: the opinions expressed in this post are not necessarily those of the spokesperson, or indeed of the management or government or of international conspiracy theorists or greenies or commies or fascists or in fact any person sane or not, without exception past or present or future. ]
Heck, all of us Cro-Magnons should pay reparations to the Neanderthals!!
It's History. The Past. Stop whining, go into the forest, cut down a tree, build a bridge and...get over it.:rolleyes:
It is my duty, as spokesperson for the TREES OF THE WORLD INTERNATIONAL MUTUAL PROTECTION INSTITUTE (TOTWIMPI) to protest at this uncalled for and totally irresponsible incitement to arboricide.
AussiePam
TOTWIMPI states:
If you humans can't get your evil act together except by exterminating yourselves, fine. The sooner the better. But leave our leaves out of your quarrels. Here we are working hard all day so you can breathe properly, and this is what we get. We've a good mind to go on strike. Then you'll be sorry.
[Ed: the opinions expressed in this post are not necessarily those of the spokesperson, or indeed of the management or government or of international conspiracy theorists or greenies or commies or fascists or in fact any person sane or not, without exception past or present or future. ]
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I'll second that emotion Aussie Pam !
As an Honorary Vice President of AACSAW (Association Against Chopper, Saw and Axing of Wood), I wish to endorse the statement by TOTWIMPI, so just watch it bud!
You've got more against you than you thought. Saint you are advised to cease, immediately, this reckless incitement !
As an Honorary Vice President of AACSAW (Association Against Chopper, Saw and Axing of Wood), I wish to endorse the statement by TOTWIMPI, so just watch it bud!
You've got more against you than you thought. Saint you are advised to cease, immediately, this reckless incitement !
I'm a Saga-lout, growing old disgracefully
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