The Celtic Christian

[Raven]

Bradwell on Sea. The oldest church in Britain still in use. St. Peters on the Wall. Maybe it has gone wrong somehow. Overcomplicated. Maybe we should step back and simplify things and go back to the understanding the celts had, before Rome interfered.

For instance, community. The celts had an understanding of God as community. Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

"Perhaps it is only our inner blindness and lack of imagination that creates so many barriers between us and other human beings which results in personal lonliness; between us and the rest of creation that results in ecological disaster; and between us and God that results in spiritual dryness." according to Martin Wallace, Bishop of Selby.

He makes much sense to me.

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[Rapunzel]

What a beautiful old church.

I LOVE old churches. They are so peaceful and you can feel the centuries' worth of prayer and worship in them. We have a beautiful old 12th Century church in Stockbridge, Hampshire.

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[Raven]

Rapunzel;1255466 wrote: What a beautiful old church.



I LOVE old churches. They are so peaceful and you can feel the centuries' worth of prayer and worship in them. We have a beautiful old 12th Century church in Stockbridge, Hampshire.



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This place was sooo serene! It's incredible what big atmosphere this little place had! :-4

[AussiePam]

The Deer's Cry

Also known as "The Breastplate of St. Patrick" and "The Lorica" - AD 433

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I arise today through a mighty strength, the invocation of the Trinity, through belief in the Threeness, through confession of the Oneness of the Creator of creation.

I arise today through the strength of Christ with his Baptism, through the strength of His Crucifixion with His Burial through the strength of His Resurrection with His Ascension, through the strength of His descent for the Judgment of Doom.

I arise today through the strength of the love of Cherubim in obedience of Angels, in the service of the Archangels, in hope of resurrection to meet with reward, in prayers of Patriarchs, in predictions of Prophets, in preachings of Apostles, in faiths of Confessors, in innocence of Holy Virgins, in deeds of righteous men.

I arise today, through the strength of Heaven; light of Sun, brilliance of Moon, splendor of Fire, speed of Lightning, swiftness of Wind, depth of Sea, stability of Earth, firmness of Rock.

I arise today, through God's strength to pilot me: God's might to uphold me, God's wisdom to guide me, God's eye to look before me, God's ear to hear me, God's word to speak for me, God's hand to guard me, God's way to lie before me, God's shield to protect me, God's host to secure me: against snares of devils, against temptations of vices, against inclinations of nature, against everyone who shall wish me ill, afar and anear, alone and in a crowd.

I summon today all these powers between me (and these evils): against every cruel and merciless power that may oppose my body and my soul, against incantations of false prophets, against black laws of heathenry, against false laws of heretics, against craft of idolatry, against spells of witches, smiths and wizards, against every knowledge that endangers man's body and soul. Christ to protect me today against poisoning, against burning, against drowning, against wounding, so that there may come abundance in reward.

Christ with me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ in me, Christ beneath me, Christ above me, Christ on my right, Christ on my left, Christ in breadth, Christ in length, Christ in height, Christ in the heart of every man who thinks of me, Christ in the mouth of every man who speaks of me, Christ in every eye that sees me, Christ in every ear that hears me.

I arise today through a mighty strength, the invocation of the Trinity, through belief in the Threeness, through confession of the Oneness of the Creator of creation. Salvation is of the Lord. Salvation is of the Lord. Salvation is of Christ. May Thy Salvation, O Lord, be ever with us. Amen.

[Raven]

Yep! Breastplate of St. Patrick! Whose real name was Magonius Sucatos Patricius! Born in Cumbria about 390 A.D. He was captured by pirates sold into slavery in Ireland around Armagh. He escaped in a boat he dreamt about to Gaul and studied Christianity with his uncle St. Martin of Tours. :-6

[Ted]

Thanks for the beautiful pictures. We, of course, have nothing quite that old here in Canada.. They are wonderful.

Shalom

Ted:-6

[gmc]

Raven;1255423 wrote: Bradwell on Sea. The oldest church in Britain still in use. St. Peters on the Wall. Maybe it has gone wrong somehow. Overcomplicated. Maybe we should step back and simplify things and go back to the understanding the celts had, before Rome interfered.

For instance, community. The celts had an understanding of God as community. Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

"Perhaps it is only our inner blindness and lack of imagination that creates so many barriers between us and other human beings which results in personal lonliness; between us and the rest of creation that results in ecological disaster; and between us and God that results in spiritual dryness." according to Martin Wallace, Bishop of Selby.

He makes much sense to me.


You should dig in to the early history of the church in britain. Real history is always stranger than that which is made up.

[Raven]

gmc;1256888 wrote: You should dig in to the early history of the church in britain. Real history is always stranger than that which is made up.
It's amazing actually! For instance all of those lovely places named Chadwell. St. Cedds brother Chadd. Of course. And how about St. Albans and Bury St. Edmund? The history needs rediscovering, because the lessons of pre-RC Britain needs relearning. From what I have been able to find, those people had the right idea!

[Raven]

Ted;1256745 wrote: Thanks for the beautiful pictures. We, of course, have nothing quite that old here in Canada.. They are wonderful.



Shalom

Ted:-6
But you wouldnt have what you have in Canada without what these folks did in Iona and Lindisfarne first!

That church had such an atmosphere in it! Pure, simple and small. It is part of the bigger pilgrimage circuit in Britain. Which is growing ever more popular these days. I dont know if thats a good or a bad thing, but there you are. It shows people are not satisfied by the mainstream church anymore. People are discovering there is more to it than the same sermons week in and week out. And they are going on pilgrimage to discover it for themselves.

[gmc]

Raven;1257734 wrote: But you wouldnt have what you have in Canada without what these folks did in Iona and Lindisfarne first!

That church had such an atmosphere in it! Pure, simple and small. It is part of the bigger pilgrimage circuit in Britain. Which is growing ever more popular these days. I dont know if thats a good or a bad thing, but there you are. It shows people are not satisfied by the mainstream church anymore. People are discovering there is more to it than the same sermons week in and week out. And they are going on pilgrimage to discover it for themselves.


You're in the heart of saxon england, have a look nearer home.

Historic Churches in Kent, England, Kent Travel Guide

Essex Church Photographs | History | Information

Come to that visit wiltshire

Wiltshire Web - History of Wiltshire

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Christians from every denomination are welcome to worship with us. For some the attraction is the sacramental life. The Celtic Christian Church is composed of local small faith communities or parishes, frequently meeting as "house churches" or "cell communities,"