Speaking in tongues

[Omni_Skittles]

Yep I'm pentecostal and i do speak in tongues sometimes, mostly in like the extreme moments in life.

What are you opinions on "speaking in tongues?"

[Lon]

Omni_Skittles;817568 wrote: Yep I'm pentecostal and i do speak in tongues sometimes, mostly in like the extreme moments in life.

What are you opinions on "speaking in tongues?"


It's made up gibberish that comes forth when the individual is in a highly emotional state. There is no duplication of words and no interpretation. It is non communicative and therefore meaningless except to the individual that is speaking.

I can convince someone that I am speaking in tongues and they would not know that I'm putting them on. I've done it.

[Omni_Skittles]

Lon;817573 wrote: It's made up gibberish that comes forth when the individual is in a highly emotional state. There is no duplication of words and no interpretation. It is non communicative and therefore meaningless except to the individual that is speaking.



I can convince someone that I am speaking in tongues and they would not know that I'm putting them on. I've done it.lol do you find pleasure in doing things like that! haha

[Omni_Skittles]

Jester;817591 wrote: I thought it was funny too!

I have to ask Lon why he would do that? Was he an undercover policeman?:wah:lol someone has to.

[Omni_Skittles]

I've actually only have done it twice in my life... now that i thought about it... both in youth group... which is weird because it was sooo out of my character and someone translated EXACTLY what i was saying but it was like i wasn't suppose to translate if you get what i'm saying...

[AussiePam]

A wise old priest once told me that experience of God affects different people in different ways, perhaps according to their temperamental makeup. What can cause one person physical rapture including speaking in tongues, he suggested, can throw another into a profound and awed silence and stillness.

[moonpie]

Omni_Skittles;817596 wrote: I've actually only have done it twice in my life... now that i thought about it... both in youth group... which is weird because it was sooo out of my character and someone translated EXACTLY what i was saying but it was like i wasn't suppose to translate if you get what i'm saying...


I have friends who are Jehovah Witnesses and another good set of friends who classify themselves as 2 x 4's. I accept both their religeons, and I don't know why I should not accept what you do either. Question though, does this particular religeon have any name that I might know? Just interested, not running it down. Just curious. I firmly believe that if what you need gets you there, than go for it.

[Lon]

Omni_Skittles;817587 wrote: lol do you find pleasure in doing things like that! haha


You betcha, I get a real kick out of it. I have the ability to mimic vowels and sounds and can convince someone that I can speak Chinese, Japanese, French and Italian. :wah:

[mikeinie]

My dad got involved in the pentecostal movement a long time ago when I was a kid. He would bring us along and we would sit there while they all started praying and then you would start hearing all these noises coming from people.

We would sit there giggling away and just trying not to laugh out.

I think it is nonsense, speaking in tongues, what speak in a language that no one else can possible understand.

I think that the point if I remember correctly is that it is based on the Holy Spirit coming to the Apostles and giving them the ‘gift of tongues’ which allowed them to go preach the word of God, but I think that the point was that they were given the gift to be able to speak various languages so that communication would not be a barrier when preaching. I don’t think that the Apostles sat around mumbling and moaning and calling out randomly with no one understanding a word they say.

Eventually by dad got out of it and in reflection said that yes he would be dead in prayer but that you also get caught up in it and the speaking in tongues was a bit ridiculous. He told me some people would go completely overboard and be shouting out and stuff, it was crazy.

[Accountable]

I don't know if it's real or not. Not for me to say. My dad took me to one of those churches when I was around 9 or 10. It must be an amazing feeling to be in so trusting and safe an environment that you can completely relinquish all control and know you'll be safe and without any stigma when you come back to yourself.



I don't think I could do it.

[jennyswan]

Personally if someone started speaking and muttering a load of gibberish, I would think that they are joking, manic or on the verge of pyschosis.

[jennyswan]

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I'll send you a prescription for a course of antipyschotics :p

[kiwimum76]

AussiePam;817613 wrote: A wise old priest once told me that experience of God affects different people in different ways, perhaps according to their temperamental makeup. What can cause one person physical rapture including speaking in tongues, he suggested, can throw another into a profound and awed silence and stillness.


I agree with the above.

It's not something that really goes on in our church. I witnessed it at a different church once and I felt quite uncomfortable. It's not my thing but if other people believe its helpful then thats all good. I just don't really feel good around it. I'm happy with my own form of worship within our church.

Other people are entitled to do whatever they feel happy with.

[Daniyal]

Ques ; What Are The Beliefs Of The Pentecost Church ?



Ans ; The Pentecostal Church Believes In ;

The Bible Is Fool Proof And Untampered

The Trinity ( Father , Son , Holy Ghost )

The Virgin Birth Of Yashua , Isa , Jesus

The Crucifixion , For The Sins Of The World

The Resurrection

The Return Of Yashua , Isa , Jesus In The Last Days .

The Pentecostal Churche's Faith And Practice Began To Resemble Revivalistic And Holiness Movements During The 19th Century . This Caused Them To Believe That They Must Pray Unceasingly . Confessing Their Sins Until They Felt Inward Assurance Of Salvation They Claim That A Person Can Reach The State Of Holiness If He Stop Trying To Achieve Perfection And Allows The Holy Ghost To Enter In Hom / Her . This Is What They Call '' The Christ Life ''



The Worship Of The Pentecosts

Most Of The Worshipping That Take Place In The Pentecostal Churches Is Demonstrative And Emotional . The Hand Clapping , Foot Stomping , Crying , Shouting AndThe Exercising Of Spiritual Powers ( Such As Speaking In Tongues )

Were Encouraged By Lay Preachers Such As Oral Roberts, Jim Bakker , Billy Graham Etc .. Presently , The Preachers Who Lead Sermons Are Trained Minister In College Seminars Of Bible Institutions , They Encourage More Of An Orderly Worship With Less Emotionalism Because They Tried To Obtain Respect For Order In The Church . However . The Congregation Is Able To Attain A Height Of Joyful And Emotional Spirituality . It Was These Congregation That Make Up Televangelism ; The Name Of Televised Evangelism Today .



Within The Many Ordained Pentecostal Churches , Most Of Their Services , If Not All , Have The Same Elments ;

Spirited Singing Of Gospel Hymns

Spur Of The Moment Prayers

Personal Testimoines

Sermons On The Various Topivs Such As Salvation , Spiritual Baptism . Divine Healing And The Second Coming

Altar Services That May Consist Of One Of The Following ; Being Saved , Sanctified , Filled With The Holy Ghost Or Healed .

Orther Practices Performed By The Pentecostal Churches Are Baptism By Immersion And Communion ( The Lord Supper ) . Other Groups Of This Denmonation Also Also Practice '' Foot '' Washing '' The Was Performed Because Yashua , Isa ,



Jesus Instructed His Disciples To Wash Each Other's Feets John 13; 14 ...If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet.'' If I Then Your Lord And Master Have Washed Your Feet Ye Also Ought To Wash One Another's Feet ''

So There You Have It . Now You See That The Teachings Of The Pentecost , As Well As Other Church Denominations , Do Not Use A Correct Donctrine .

They Took Yashua , Isa , Jesus Teaching And Added And Subtracted From Them To Formulate Their Own Doctrine .



The Day Of The Pentecost Is Also Termed '' White Sunday '' Because The Proselytes Wear White Robes On The Sunday They Are To Be Baptized . They Continue To Wear The White For A Week To Symbolized Purity And Forgiveness For Their Sins . Does This Mean That Once The Baptism Is Over , And The Week Is Up . You Change Back Into Your Impure Unforgiving Clothing . The Forgiveness And Purity Are Over ? What Does This Tell You About The Clothing You Are Supposed To Be Wearing ? < This Not Only Goes For The Wearing Of



White . The Whole Attitude Of Going To Church On Sundays Or To The Mosque For Jum'ah ( The Day Of Gathering ) Or To The Synagogue For The ( Shabat ) Sabbath ; One You Leave , Everything Goes Back To Noramal . And By The WeekEnd , Your Off To Some Party Drinking Or Something Else . You Know What I'm Talking About , < Once Church . Jum'ah Or The Sabbath Is Out The Purity . And The Holiness Goes Out The Door As Well ;... According To The Pentecostalists One Must Seek A Religious Experience Called Baptism Of The Holy Spirit . This Corresponds To The Descent Of The Holy Spirit Recorded By Luke

( The Gentile ) In Acts 2 ; 4 ;... And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

The Pentecostalists Claim That One Must Seek To Become Closer To Thehos / God Through Speaking In Tongues . The Scientific Name They Give This Occurrence



Is Glossolalia ( Which Is Defined As Tongues ) As For The Pentecoistalist . Speaking In Tongues Is '' The Inarticulate Speech , Meaningless Sounds; Jargon , Uttered In Times Of Emotional Frenzy '' Concluded By The Belief That '' The Speaker Is Possessed Of The Holy Spirit '' This Spirit That You People Are Getting Is Not A Holy Spirit , But What Jesus Termed An '' Unclean Spirit Mark 1 ; 23 - 26 ;.... And there was in their synagogue a man with an unclean spirit; and he cried out, 24 Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God. 25 And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him. 26 And when the unclean spirit had torn him, and cried with a loud voice, he came out of him.



Revelation 18; 2 ;.... And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

This Unclean Or Unholy Spirit Has You Pentecostalists . Acting Like People Who Are In A State Of Discomfort ( Not Being Comforted ) ;....

John 14 ;26 ;.... And I Quote ;....But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

And John 15 ; 26 And I Quote ;....But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:



To Comfort In 1Chronicles 7 ; 22 ;..It Says And I Quote ;.... And Ephraim their father mourned many days, and his brethren came to comfort him.

This Means To Comfort A Person Make Them Relax And Feel Better Not Jump Around And Foam Out The Mouth . No Holy Spirit Would Snatch A 60 Year Old Woman Out Of Her Seat , Throw Her On The Floor , Foaming At The Mouth And Kicking .... These People Have Attached An Unholy Spirit ( Conjuring Up Unholy Spirits ) Using The Symbol Of The Pentagram ;...

[Tan]

I do it sometimes while sleeping. My husband has videotaped the incidents. Its very creepy to watch afterwards!

[qsducks]

What does it mean if I stick out my tongue at you? Can't help it, I'm curious.:wah:

[Daniyal]

Ques ; What Is The Pentagram And What Does It Have To Do With Pentecost //

A Pentagram Is A Pentacle ( A Five Point Star Connected With Five Straight Lines ) It It Seen As A Goat ( A Billy Goat ) . A Goat Is Also Known As A Ram ( Identified By The Two Curved Horms Protruding From Its Head ) . Yashua , Isa Jesus The Goat To Symbolize Evil And The Sheep To Symbolize Good ;..



Matthew 25 ; 33 ;... And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

Not That The Goat In Another Form Is Depicted As A Half Creature , Half Male Half Female . Sitting In A Lotus Postion With The Symbol Of The Kundilini Coming Up Between His Legs . He Has The Head Of The Goat . Which Was Of Neutral Gender Having Of The 5 Pointed Star Thus , This Is Where The Hindu God Krishna Comes From Being Half Male And Half Female . Let Us LQQk At The Different Connotation Between Sheep And Goat .



Pentecost Is Also Derived From The Word '' Pentagram '' Pentecost ... Pentekoste

Is A Greek Word Meaning '' Fifty Times ' It Is A Combination Of The Two Words Pente - Meaning '' Five And Koste '' - Meaning '' Ten Times '' As You Can See Pentecost Is Not A Favorable Name To Be Chosen For This So - Called Holy Day . It Is A Name That Stirs Up Unholy Connotations . Doesn't This Make You Wonder Why Anyone Would Use This Name ? Yashua Isa ,Jesus Never Did . The Word Pentecost Occurs Only Three Times In The Recording Of Those Who Claimed To Have Followed The Teaching Of Yashua Isa Jesus . The Name Pentecost Is Recorded In ..

Acts 2 ; 1 ;...And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.



Acts 20 ; 16 ;...For Paul had determined to sail by Ephesus, because he would not spend the time in Asia: for he hasted, if it were possible for him, to be at Jerusalem the day of Pentecost.

1Corinthian 16 ; 8 ;... But I will tarry at Ephesus until Pentecost.

The Book Of Acts Was Wrtten By Luke Who ( As Previously Stated ) Was Never A Companion Of Yashua . Isa . Jesus .But A Gentile . The Books Of Corinthians Was Written By Paul ( The 13th Self - Appointed Apostle ) Who Never Met Yashua , Isa , Jesus . He Was An Avid Persecutor Of Yashua , Isa , Jesus And His Disciples

Acts Chater 8 ;..... And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were



all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles. 2 And devout men carried Stephen to his burial, and made great lamentation over him. 3 As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison. 4 Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word. 5 Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them. 6 And the people with one accord gave heed unto those things which Philip spake, hearing and seeing the miracles which he did. 7 For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed with them: and many taken with palsies, and that were lame, were healed. 8 And there was great joy in that city. 9 But there was a certain man, called Simon, which beforetime in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched



the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one: 10 To whom they all gave heed, from the least to the greatest, saying, This man is the great power of God. 11 And to him they had regard, because that of long time he had bewitched them with sorceries. 12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. 13 Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done. 14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John: 15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy



Ghost: 16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.) 17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost. 18 And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money, 19 Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost. 20 But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money. 21 Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God. 22 Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee. 23 For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity. 24 Then answered Simon, and said, Pray ye to the LORD for me, that none



of these things which ye have spoken come upon me. 25 And they, when they had testified and preached the word of the Lord, returned to Jerusalem, and preached the gospel in many villages of the Samaritans. 26 And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert. 27 And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship, 28 Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet. 29 Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot. 30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest? 31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him. 32 The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to



the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth: 33 In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth. 34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man? 35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. 36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. And when they were come up out of the



water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. 40 But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea.

You Pentecostalists Reserve A Part Of Your Sunday Services For What You Term '' Receiving The Spirit ''

This Is Usually The Part Of The Sermon When ( After Everyone Has Gotten ''Good And Riled Up ) The Music Is Playing . Everyone Is Clapping , And The Preacher Has Worked Up A Good Sweat. Then The Members Are Called On To '' Receive The Spirit '' . Miss Maxine Or Sister Gladys Starts The Performance ; One Of Them Falls Out The Chair And Starts Jumping Around Like Something Is After Her . Pretty Soon She Is Muttering And Babbling Mumbo - Jumbo And Brother



Henry Is On The Scene Patting Her Hand While The Reverend Is Translating Saying '' She Has Received The Holy Ghost '' . Do You Really Feel That The Holy Spirit Is Upon You ? Or Are You Acting That Way Because You Saw Your Aunt Millie Acting That Way ? Or Have You Been Intimidated Because All Your Family , Friends And Associates Claimed To Have '' Recived The Holy Spirit '' And You Felt Left Out Because You Haven't ? Most Of The People Are Made To Feel Inferior This Way And This Is How The Lie Is Perpetuated . There Are People In The Pentecostal Churches Who Are Possessed Of A Spirit . They Are The Ones Who Have Obviously Lost Control .. They Are Thrown Out Of Their Chairs , Foaming At The Mouth , Falling On The Floors , Jumping . Punching Kicking And Going Through Contortions . Just Like Those Voodoo Ritualists In Haiti , Africa , And Other Parts Of South America . These People Are Ancestor Worshippers. They Worship So - called Saints And Evil Spirit . They . Too . Go Through These '' Fits 'When Their Worship Is At Its Peak . Music Plays A Very Important Part Of Their Worship Is It The Basis For The Summoning Of These Evil Spirit . These People Become Possessed Of An



Unholy Spirit , Not The Holy Spirit , No Holy Spirit Would Ever Throw You From Your Chair And Would Have You Foaming At The Mouth . In These Last Days Evil Spirit Have Been Let Loose Upon The World . Still You Pentecostalists , Draw Them To Yourselves By Playing The Same Music That The Voodoo Ritualists Listen To . Which Opens Your Souls Up To Receive These Unholy Spirits . Yashua , Isa , Jesus Never Did This . When The Spirit Of Eli ( God ) Came Upon Yashua , Isa . Jesus , While He Was Being Baptized By John The Baptist Mark 1 ; 9 - 10 ;..... And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan. 10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him:



He Not Flip Around In The Water And Acts Crazy , Neither Did Elizabeth ( Mother Of John The Baptist ) He Ascended To The Second Plane While John The Baptist Was Left Holding His Temporarily Lifeless Body That Was Filled By The Holy Spirit Luke 1 ; 41 ;...And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost: When He Returned . The Holy Spirit Descended Upon Him '' Like A Dove

Matthew 3 ; 14 - 17 ;... But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove,



and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Afterwaeds , Yashua , Isa . Jesus Was Full Of Reassurance , Comfort And Joyous Feeling . The Holy Spirit Heals You Refreshes You , Bring You Back To Life And Makes You Whole . This Is The Essence Of Being Filled With The Holy Spirit - The Spirit Of Eli ( God ) . No Preacher Can Do This For You ;... Mark 11 ; 22 - 23 ;.. And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God. 23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.



All The Prophets Were Filled With A Comforting Feeling Upon Receiving The Holy Spirit . The Holy Spirit Is Comforter ( Not The Comforter As In John 16 ; 1 ;....These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended

It Will Not Put You In A State Of Discomfort Like These Pentecostalists . Yashua Isa . Jesus Said .. '' When The Holy Spirit ( Or Comforter ) Comes Upon You , It Will Stay With You Forever '' . John 1 ; 33 ;...And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

[Carolly]

Lon;817647 wrote: You betcha, I get a real kick out of it. I have the ability to mimic vowels and sounds and can convince someone that I can speak Chinese, Japanese, French and Italian. :wah:I have trouble convincing people I can talk English:rolleyes:;)