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rstrats;1527088 wrote: But maybe someone new visiting this topic may know of examples.


In my view the " Heart of the earth " expression can mean the inner part of the ground or grave, just as we view our heart being inside the inner most part of our chest. . So it just means the grave and a tomb is a grave. So a body can be in a tomb above the ground but still be considered buried in a grave. Also it can be interpreted as meaning Jesus can get inside of the human consciousness and search the heart. Or that he can visit the world of the dead and raise them back to life.

As far as how the 3 days are figured, that is illrelevant to me how it is factored in different minds of study.
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Mickiel,

re: "In my view the 'Heart of the earth' expression can mean the inner part of the ground or grave..."

And that is to whom this topic is directed, i.e., someone who thinks the "heart of the earth" is referring to the grave/tomb.



re: "As far as how the 3 days are figured, that is illrelevant to me how it is factored in different minds of study."

That would be an issue for a different topic.
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Perhaps someone new looking in may know of examples.
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Apparently, not many people find it to be in need of resolution.

Though I find it interesting the use of the phrase "three days and three nights" while in the society to which he is speaking, a day is from sundown to sundown, therefore a night and a day.

so he was only by the most twisted logic even remotely there for three days at all.

If they got him prepared and in the tomb before sundown then there is the briefest of a day Friday (and no night), then the full night and day of Saturday, and the night of Sunday, then by Dawn he was out. So, at most 36 hours. two nights and a day.

One can only presume that the author of Matthew made the whole thing up, long after the fact. Or they meant something else entirely by that passage, and it had nothing to do with being "in the tomb"

Another thought - Since indications are that Matthew was actually written long after, probably a century or more after the events. it was intended for an audience for whom the day and night no longer were considered in the same fashion as it was by the Hebrews.
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any thetime of Jesus Friday was the sabbath. so Saturday was equal to our Sunday so Jesus was entombed Thus night #fitst night. Saturday was the second night. Due to the way the ancient calendar was used the third night was Sunday the next night was the third because the Third day did not end until early Monday morning
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Ted;1532007 wrote: Hi all. Spen a lot of time in the hospital with an infection (not coved 19). Back soon.


I hope you get back to health soon Ted, it's good to hear from you.
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Ted,

re: "any thetime of Jesus Friday was the sabbath. so Saturday was equal to our Sunday so Jesus was entombed Thus night #fitst night. Saturday was the second night. Due to the way the ancient calendar was used the third night was Sunday the next night was the third because the Third day did not end until early Monday morning "



That would be an issue for a different topic.
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Since it's been awhile, maybe someone new looking in may know of examples.
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One can only hope. My fervent wish is that your curiosity should be immediately and fully satisfied on the matter.
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And again, that "someone new" needs to be someone who believes the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with a 1st day of the week resurrection, and who thinks that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb, and who tries to explain the lack of a 3rd night by saying that the Messiah was employing common figure of speech/colloquial language of the period.
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You have my sympathy, it must be terrible to be trapped by an obsession like yours.
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rstrats wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:58 am And again, that "someone new" needs to be someone who believes the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with a 1st day of the week resurrection, and who thinks that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb, and who tries to explain the lack of a 3rd night by saying that the Messiah was employing common figure of speech/colloquial language of the period.
So, I gotta ask,
In all this time, have you actually found anyone who meets those specifications?
And, should you locate such a one, what, exactly, do you expect to accomplish with them?
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