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It's worse than we thought folks..
oscar;1247796 wrote: Thankyou to all of you for your lovely good wishes. Also for the private messages and e mails I have recieved. I am over-whelmed bu every-one's kindness.
Pete has been in hospital all day having more X rays and scans. Now, it is the waiting game again. He finds the fatigue the worst. The Oncology department is marvellous and doing all they can.
Thankyou all again :-4:-4
stay positive Julie.
Give Peter a huge hug for me.
xoxo
Pete has been in hospital all day having more X rays and scans. Now, it is the waiting game again. He finds the fatigue the worst. The Oncology department is marvellous and doing all they can.
Thankyou all again :-4:-4
stay positive Julie.
Give Peter a huge hug for me.
xoxo
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Sending high beams to Pete:-4......
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Kathy Ellen;1247927 wrote: Sending high beams to Pete:-4...... Kathy...... thank you so much for your get well card that arrived this morning. Pete was so thrilled and a wonderful card of The Statue of Liberty. You really have a heart of gold :-4 I am still over-whelmed by every-one's kindness here. Your card will go on the board along with Ducks card of the Phillies that I treasure from Christmas.
Pete's stop smoking lasted two days :wah: I can't blame him... It's an awful time to pack up when he is so worried about the future.
Thankyou again kathy and to all of you who have e mailed, messaged and posted here. What an awesome bunch you are!!
Pete's stop smoking lasted two days :wah: I can't blame him... It's an awful time to pack up when he is so worried about the future.
Thankyou again kathy and to all of you who have e mailed, messaged and posted here. What an awesome bunch you are!!
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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So sorry to hear that news, Oscar. Hoping for the best and sending good thoughts to you and Peter.
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oscar;1248329 wrote: Kathy...... thank you so much for your get well card that arrived this morning. Pete was so thrilled and a wonderful card of The Statue of Liberty. You really have a heart of gold :-4 I am still over-whelmed by every-one's kindness here. Your card will go on the board along with Ducks card of the Phillies that I treasure from Christmas.
Pete's stop smoking lasted two days :wah: I can't blame him... It's an awful time to pack up when he is so worried about the future.
Thankyou again kathy and to all of you who have e mailed, messaged and posted here. What an awesome bunch you are!!
It does sound like he is feeling better now, keep up the faith!:-4
Pete's stop smoking lasted two days :wah: I can't blame him... It's an awful time to pack up when he is so worried about the future.
Thankyou again kathy and to all of you who have e mailed, messaged and posted here. What an awesome bunch you are!!
It does sound like he is feeling better now, keep up the faith!:-4
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Odie;1248369 wrote: It does sound like he is feeling better now, keep up the faith!:-4
Unfortuantely... he feels like shyte and is very tired all the time but we stay positive. I may have to take Raven up on her offer as the Oncology Liason guy is Scottish and I can't understand a word he says :wah:
Unfortuantely... he feels like shyte and is very tired all the time but we stay positive. I may have to take Raven up on her offer as the Oncology Liason guy is Scottish and I can't understand a word he says :wah:
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oscar;1248374 wrote: Unfortuantely... he feels like shyte and is very tired all the time but we stay positive. I may have to take Raven up on her offer as the Oncology Liason guy is Scottish and I can't understand a word he says :wah:
so who will take care of him while your away.
so who will take care of him while your away.
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Odie;1248389 wrote: so who will take care of him while your away.
Don't worry Joan... we have lots of people around us, family, good friends. If he got really bad, of course I wouldn't go. Trust me, he'll be grateful for the quiet and peace :wah:
Don't worry Joan... we have lots of people around us, family, good friends. If he got really bad, of course I wouldn't go. Trust me, he'll be grateful for the quiet and peace :wah:
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oscar;1248474 wrote: Don't worry Joan... we have lots of people around us, family, good friends. If he got really bad, of course I wouldn't go. Trust me, he'll be grateful for the quiet and peace :wah:
so will I!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
so will I!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
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Odie;1248480 wrote: so will I!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
No chance... I have a laptop and a stick thingy to hook up to the Internet. I can still get you from anywhere in the country :yh_rotfl
No chance... I have a laptop and a stick thingy to hook up to the Internet. I can still get you from anywhere in the country :yh_rotfl
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oscar;1248483 wrote: No chance... I have a laptop and a stick thingy to hook up to the Internet. I can still get you from anywhere in the country :yh_rotfl
good.:-4
just make sure he feeds Odiekins.:sneaky:
good.:-4
just make sure he feeds Odiekins.:sneaky:
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How did I miss this thread? Just popping in and out for a few minutes here and there, I guess. :-5
Oscar, hunni, much love and hugs to you and Peter. I'll keep you both in my thoughts and prayers. It's funny, I prayed as a child but stopped when I grew older. It was only when I joined FG and I saw how many American members would remember people in their prayers that I slowly started to pray again . . . and do you know what? . . . it really works!
With all my love to both of you :-4:-4
Mel xxx :yh_hugs:yh_hugs
Oscar, hunni, much love and hugs to you and Peter. I'll keep you both in my thoughts and prayers. It's funny, I prayed as a child but stopped when I grew older. It was only when I joined FG and I saw how many American members would remember people in their prayers that I slowly started to pray again . . . and do you know what? . . . it really works!
With all my love to both of you :-4:-4
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Rapunzel;1248489 wrote: How did I miss this thread? Just popping in and out for a few minutes here and there, I guess. :-5
Oscar, hunni, much love and hugs to you and Peter. I'll keep you both in my thoughts and prayers. It's funny, I prayed as a child but stopped when I grew older. It was only when I joined FG and I saw how many American members would remember people in their prayers that I slowly started to pray again . . . and do you know what? . . . it really works!
With all my love to both of you :-4:-4
Mel xxx :yh_hugs:yh_hugs Thankyou sweetpea :-4 We really do appreciate all the kindness here.
Oscar, hunni, much love and hugs to you and Peter. I'll keep you both in my thoughts and prayers. It's funny, I prayed as a child but stopped when I grew older. It was only when I joined FG and I saw how many American members would remember people in their prayers that I slowly started to pray again . . . and do you know what? . . . it really works!
With all my love to both of you :-4:-4
Mel xxx :yh_hugs:yh_hugs Thankyou sweetpea :-4 We really do appreciate all the kindness here.
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oscar;1248329 wrote: Kathy...... thank you so much for your get well card that arrived this morning. Pete was so thrilled and a wonderful card of The Statue of Liberty. You really have a heart of gold :-4 I am still over-whelmed by every-one's kindness here. Your card will go on the board along with Ducks card of the Phillies that I treasure from Christmas.
Pete's stop smoking lasted two days :wah: I can't blame him... It's an awful time to pack up when he is so worried about the future.
Thankyou again kathy and to all of you who have e mailed, messaged and posted here. What an awesome bunch you are!!
Thanks so much Julie for letting me know about Pete's post...I'm not on all the time and miss a lot of posts...I'm happy that you liked my card...I love the Statue of Liberty and thought Pete would like an American card:-4
Our Duckster is great with her Phillies team...GO PHILLIES:-4
Pete's stop smoking lasted two days :wah: I can't blame him... It's an awful time to pack up when he is so worried about the future.
Thankyou again kathy and to all of you who have e mailed, messaged and posted here. What an awesome bunch you are!!
Thanks so much Julie for letting me know about Pete's post...I'm not on all the time and miss a lot of posts...I'm happy that you liked my card...I love the Statue of Liberty and thought Pete would like an American card:-4
Our Duckster is great with her Phillies team...GO PHILLIES:-4
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Thankyou again for all the kindness we have recieved on FG.
Just a brief update for you without going into gory details. We spent yesterday at the hospital going through all the results.
Bones clear.
Lungs and bladder... not good.
We keep the faith :-6
Just a brief update for you without going into gory details. We spent yesterday at the hospital going through all the results.
Bones clear.
Lungs and bladder... not good.
We keep the faith :-6
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oscar;1251499 wrote: Thankyou again for all the kindness we have recieved on FG.
Just a brief update for you without going into gory details. We spent yesterday at the hospital going through all the results.
Bones clear.
Lungs and bladder... not good.
We keep the faith :-6
what is wrong with his lungs and bladder Julie?
Just a brief update for you without going into gory details. We spent yesterday at the hospital going through all the results.
Bones clear.
Lungs and bladder... not good.
We keep the faith :-6
what is wrong with his lungs and bladder Julie?
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Odie;1251504 wrote: what is wrong with his lungs and bladder Julie? Will pm you.
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oscar;1251518 wrote: Will pm you.
thanks Julie.
thanks Julie.
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oscar;1251499 wrote: Thankyou again for all the kindness we have recieved on FG.
Just a brief update for you without going into gory details. We spent yesterday at the hospital going through all the results.
Bones clear.
Lungs and bladder... not good.
We keep the faith :-6
Sending good thoughts Peter's way.:-6
Just a brief update for you without going into gory details. We spent yesterday at the hospital going through all the results.
Bones clear.
Lungs and bladder... not good.
We keep the faith :-6
Sending good thoughts Peter's way.:-6
It's nice to be important,but more important to be nice.
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oscar;1251499 wrote: Thankyou again for all the kindness we have recieved on FG.
Just a brief update for you without going into gory details. We spent yesterday at the hospital going through all the results.
Bones clear.
Lungs and bladder... not good.
We keep the faith :-6
Oh Honey!!
Now before you go off on one, it doesnt ALWAYS turn out bad! Remember Lance Armstrong? The guy who does the Tour de france every year? Where there is life, there is hope. Our prayers are with you babe. x
Just a brief update for you without going into gory details. We spent yesterday at the hospital going through all the results.
Bones clear.
Lungs and bladder... not good.
We keep the faith :-6
Oh Honey!!
Now before you go off on one, it doesnt ALWAYS turn out bad! Remember Lance Armstrong? The guy who does the Tour de france every year? Where there is life, there is hope. Our prayers are with you babe. x
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Raven;1251845 wrote: Oh Honey!!
Now before you go off on one, it doesnt ALWAYS turn out bad! Remember Lance Armstrong? The guy who does the Tour de france every year? Where there is life, there is hope. Our prayers are with you babe. x Thanks Raven. There was always a very high risk of it returning so It's not a huge shock. Just a case of getting on with it now and exploring the options.
Now before you go off on one, it doesnt ALWAYS turn out bad! Remember Lance Armstrong? The guy who does the Tour de france every year? Where there is life, there is hope. Our prayers are with you babe. x Thanks Raven. There was always a very high risk of it returning so It's not a huge shock. Just a case of getting on with it now and exploring the options.
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I will keep up my thoughts and prayers for you both.:-4
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oscar;1251846 wrote: Thanks Raven. There was always a very high risk of it returning so It's not a huge shock. Just a case of getting on with it now and exploring the options.
It hasnt metastasised to the bone, but what kind of lung involvement is there? Bladder is not hard to get at. Bladder usually responds very well. The main thing is not to panic.
It hasnt metastasised to the bone, but what kind of lung involvement is there? Bladder is not hard to get at. Bladder usually responds very well. The main thing is not to panic.
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oscar;1251499 wrote: Thankyou again for all the kindness we have recieved on FG.
Just a brief update for you without going into gory details. We spent yesterday at the hospital going through all the results.
Bones clear.
Lungs and bladder... not good.
We keep the faith :-6
Stay strong Julie ... Love to you both xx :-4:-4
Just a brief update for you without going into gory details. We spent yesterday at the hospital going through all the results.
Bones clear.
Lungs and bladder... not good.
We keep the faith :-6
Stay strong Julie ... Love to you both xx :-4:-4
Very nearly perfect ...
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Raven;1251851 wrote: It hasnt metastasised to the bone, but what kind of lung involvement is there? Bladder is not hard to get at. Bladder usually responds very well. The main thing is not to panic.
Small tumours on lungs but he has had part of his bladder removed the last time round.
Small tumours on lungs but he has had part of his bladder removed the last time round.
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pinkchick;1251852 wrote: Stay strong Julie ... Love to you both xx :-4:-4
Thanks Rosie.. much appreciated :-4
Thanks Rosie.. much appreciated :-4
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oscar;1251861 wrote: Small tumours on lungs but he has had part of his bladder removed the last time round.
Then there is hope for Mr. O.
Just stay strong, and if you need to lash out, unload or just someone to be silent with, I'm here honey. Pm me if you want my number dolly. I understand very well what you are dealing with. But only you know how you are coping. x
Then there is hope for Mr. O.
Just stay strong, and if you need to lash out, unload or just someone to be silent with, I'm here honey. Pm me if you want my number dolly. I understand very well what you are dealing with. But only you know how you are coping. x
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Sorry to hear this, good wishes to you both and stay positive :-6
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Raven;1251869 wrote: Then there is hope for Mr. O.
Just stay strong, and if you need to lash out, unload or just someone to be silent with, I'm here honey. Pm me if you want my number dolly. I understand very well what you are dealing with. But only you know how you are coping. x
Thankyou and I will contact you when it becomes too much. Last time round he was given 9 months to live so we know there is hope. We're both fighters and we laugh a lot together. :-6
Just stay strong, and if you need to lash out, unload or just someone to be silent with, I'm here honey. Pm me if you want my number dolly. I understand very well what you are dealing with. But only you know how you are coping. x
Thankyou and I will contact you when it becomes too much. Last time round he was given 9 months to live so we know there is hope. We're both fighters and we laugh a lot together. :-6
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oscar;1251877 wrote: Thankyou and I will contact you when it becomes too much. Last time round he was given 9 months to live so we know there is hope. We're both fighters and we laugh a lot together. :-6
Well thats healthy! Good on you guys! Besides...Noone knows how long they have in this world. Wouldnt want to know personally. Our prayers are with you. x
Well thats healthy! Good on you guys! Besides...Noone knows how long they have in this world. Wouldnt want to know personally. Our prayers are with you. x
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oscar;1251861 wrote: Small tumours on lungs but he has had part of his bladder removed the last time round.
There is hope for Peter.
stay strong, and keep the faith Julie!
xoxo
There is hope for Peter.
stay strong, and keep the faith Julie!
xoxo
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Odie;1251891 wrote: There is hope for Peter.
stay strong, and keep the faith Julie!
xoxo
You've been a good friend Joan.
Thanks to everyone here for all your kindness. :-4:-4:-4
stay strong, and keep the faith Julie!
xoxo
You've been a good friend Joan.
Thanks to everyone here for all your kindness. :-4:-4:-4
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oscar;1251901 wrote: You've been a good friend Joan.
Thanks to everyone here for all your kindness. :-4:-4:-4
now wheres' my pm?:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
or email?:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
always here for you kiddo!:-4
xxoxo
Thanks to everyone here for all your kindness. :-4:-4:-4
now wheres' my pm?:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
or email?:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
always here for you kiddo!:-4
xxoxo
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Raven;1251883 wrote: Well thats healthy! Good on you guys! Besides...Noone knows how long they have in this world.
thank god, may I add. At the least it's funnier this way.
Anyway, the real problem is not Living or Dying. You can choose to die/not die, you can choose to live/not live.
What you really can't choose is being born/not being born.
This kind of cheer me up, but at the same time saddens me because I realize I find myself here for my parents wish; not for mine.
thank god, may I add. At the least it's funnier this way.
Anyway, the real problem is not Living or Dying. You can choose to die/not die, you can choose to live/not live.
What you really can't choose is being born/not being born.
This kind of cheer me up, but at the same time saddens me because I realize I find myself here for my parents wish; not for mine.
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Odie;1251902 wrote: now wheres' my pm?:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
or email?:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
always here for you kiddo!:-4
xxoxo
Whoops.. :o Sorry... I tend to get distracted these days :wah:
or email?:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
always here for you kiddo!:-4
xxoxo
Whoops.. :o Sorry... I tend to get distracted these days :wah:
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oscar;1251907 wrote: Whoops.. :o Sorry... I tend to get distracted these days :wah:
don't you always!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
is Odiekins inside yet.:sneaky:
don't you always!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
is Odiekins inside yet.:sneaky:
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sending strength for peter:-4:-4 Its a very hard thing to go through i know:(
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kazalala;1251939 wrote: sending strength for peter:-4:-4 Its a very hard thing to go through i know:(
Thanks Kaz :-4:-4
Thanks Kaz :-4:-4
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All the best to both of you.:-4
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Clodhopper;1252059 wrote: All the best to both of you.:-4 Thankyou... very kind. :-4
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oscar;1251499 wrote: Thankyou again for all the kindness we have recieved on FG.
Just a brief update for you without going into gory details. We spent yesterday at the hospital going through all the results.
Bones clear.
Lungs and bladder... not good.
We keep the faith :-6
Still sending love and prayers to both of you Jules. :-4:yh_pray
Just a brief update for you without going into gory details. We spent yesterday at the hospital going through all the results.
Bones clear.
Lungs and bladder... not good.
We keep the faith :-6
Still sending love and prayers to both of you Jules. :-4:yh_pray
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Keep the faith Oscar your both in my prayers. :yh_pray:yh_pray
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"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
MOTTO TO LIVE BY:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming.
WOO HOO!!, what a ride!!!"
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Today I went to my first meeting for partners of those with terminal Illness. I expected doom and gloom all around and to be honest, did not want to go. I have not laughed that much in months. We swapped stories, and just laughed and laughed until I came away far more upbeat. A great meeting and will go again. :-6
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oscar;1254073 wrote: Today I went to my first meeting for partners of those with terminal Illness. I expected doom and gloom all around and to be honest, did not want to go. I have not laughed that much in months. We swapped stories, and just laughed and laughed until I came away far more upbeat. A great meeting and will go again. :-6
So glad it helped...it's good to have a support system in place at trying times like these. :-4
So glad it helped...it's good to have a support system in place at trying times like these. :-4
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shelbell;1254110 wrote: So glad it helped...it's good to have a support system in place at trying times like these. :-4
Yes and you also realise there are folk far worse off than yourself.
Yes and you also realise there are folk far worse off than yourself.
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I'm so glad that you joined a support groups Julie. That was a very smart thing to do:-6:-4
I wish that I had done that when my Dad passed away in front of me, in a very frenzied way, and found out that Mom had alzheimers at the same time. We thought that both of our parents were becoming forgetful and just aging....... turned our lives upside down and spun around for years.
Hope this group brings you some peace (((Julie))).
I wish that I had done that when my Dad passed away in front of me, in a very frenzied way, and found out that Mom had alzheimers at the same time. We thought that both of our parents were becoming forgetful and just aging....... turned our lives upside down and spun around for years.
Hope this group brings you some peace (((Julie))).
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Kathy Ellen;1254132 wrote: I'm so glad that you joined a support groups Julie. That was a very smart thing to do:-6:-4
I wish that I had done that when my Dad passed away in front of me, in a very frenzied way, and found out that Mom had alzheimers at the same time. We thought that both of our parents were becoming forgetful and just aging....... turned our lives upside down and spun around for years.
Hope this group brings you some peace (((Julie))).
Thanks Kathy... Watching any loved one suffer is so hard and I was surprised we found so much to laugh at together. I must say that I'm not a fan of group therepy but the laughter did me good. I agree that it helps and would have helped you with your parents. :-4
I wish that I had done that when my Dad passed away in front of me, in a very frenzied way, and found out that Mom had alzheimers at the same time. We thought that both of our parents were becoming forgetful and just aging....... turned our lives upside down and spun around for years.
Hope this group brings you some peace (((Julie))).
Thanks Kathy... Watching any loved one suffer is so hard and I was surprised we found so much to laugh at together. I must say that I'm not a fan of group therepy but the laughter did me good. I agree that it helps and would have helped you with your parents. :-4
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
It's worse than we thought folks..
oscar;1254073 wrote: Today I went to my first meeting for partners of those with terminal Illness. I expected doom and gloom all around and to be honest, did not want to go. I have not laughed that much in months. We swapped stories, and just laughed and laughed until I came away far more upbeat. A great meeting and will go again. :-6
You needed to laugh Julie.
Happy that it helped.
You needed to laugh Julie.
Happy that it helped.
Life is just to short for drama.
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It's worse than we thought folks..
hugs.
The crowd: "Yes! We are all individuals!"
Lone voice: "I'm not."
Lone voice: "I'm not."