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That's what makes it common.

Should this man have been arrested ?

Man gets arrested for trying to pick up his own kid from school | Realnews24.com

The school thinks they can keep the kids for as long as they want after the bell. And even if you have an appointment, you will get your kids when school say so.
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fuzzywuzzy;1441380 wrote: That's what makes it common.

Should this man have been arrested ?

Man gets arrested for trying to pick up his own kid from school | Realnews24.com


Should he have been refused custody of his child? No, the school is in loco parentis, they do not take precedence over the parent.

Should he have been arrested? No, he was presenting his case calmly and rationally - his crime was disagreeing with the policeman who was not presenting his case calmly and rationally.

The cop should be suspended and retrained IMHO.
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It Takes a Village

Who needs parents?
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tude dog;1441389 wrote: It Takes a Village

Who needs parents?


Should the policeman have arrested the parent?
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Obviously there is some history between this guy and the sheriff deputy.
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Bryn Mawr;1441391 wrote: Should the policeman have arrested the parent?


I apologize sir.

The reference to the 'It takes a village' was intended to be a slam towards Hillary Clinton.

Other than that, the cop was just being stupid.

This is something, IMO, not a crisis, but a local matter.
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At first I thought by his manner, that the parent was bullying, but then I thought why have they started filming? So something was obviously said that upset him. Where's the disorderly conduct? The woman behind the desk doesn't look too offended and the bloke is very cordial to her.

Why does he have to sign a paper to pick his children up ...And when he says "when school is dissmissed the kids are coming with me"...........and the copper says "That's not how it works".???????? He has to pick his kids up the way the school says. His daughter has to be left on a sidewalk whilst waiting for a car to pick her up ????

I just don't get it. The school security guy is more upset about the man (Jim) calling the sheriff than anything else.

" the school says you can have your child but it doesn't say when you can have your child " the man responds "within a reasonable time .....fifteen mintues" ....................and then gets arrested. WTF?
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tude dog;1441393 wrote: I apologize sir.

The reference to the 'It takes a village' was intended to be a slam towards Hillary Clinton.

Other than that, the cop was just being stupid.

This is something, IMO, not a crisis, but a local matter.


I recognized the reference, a standard deflection towards your standard subject matter. That's why I re-asked the original question.

It's far more than a local matter where the forces of "law and order" are acting against law and order, feeling that their opinion is sacrosanct and cannot be challenged. A policeman is as human as the rest of us and can equally be wrong - the day that a member of the public cannot disagree with the word of a policeman for fear of being handcuffed and locked up is the day we pass into a police state and loose our freedom.
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LarsMac;1441392 wrote: Obviously there is some history between this guy and the sheriff deputy.


Doesn't matter if they know each other . It doesn't matter at all, and if at all the fact that they know each other comes into this it shows a lack of professionalism on the part of the copper. No institution can hold a child against the parents will.

Lets remember he's only their to pick his children up. And he is being told that he can't.

Is the guy school security? copper ? what?
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There HAS to be more than what we saw, without getting the back story, no doubt the Policeman was way out of order, but without knowing his reasoning who can say?
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i believe it has something to do with the line of cars and the way in which the school or the county wants orderly pick ups. This parent has decided to park his car instead of joining the line and walk his child to the parked car. At one point he says that others have a problem with this system of pick ups.
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fuzzywuzzy;1441398 wrote: Doesn't matter if they know each other . It doesn't matter at all, and if at all the fact that they know each other comes into this it shows a lack of professionalism on the part of the copper. No institution can hold a child against the parents will.

Lets remember he's only their to pick his children up. And he is being told that he can't.

Is the guy school security? copper ? what?
That was a sheriff deputy. He was being unreasonable. He was being rather familiar, using the guy's first name. They were both being very familiar.

It should have no bearing on the legal aspects, but sometimes **** gets personal, and people forget their place. This deputy appears to have fallen into that category. He let his mouth overrun his brain, and when he got outclassed, he reacted by "exercising his authority"

We don't know what led up to the showdown, though, so without the whole story, I will just move on.
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Certainly, every parent has the right to pick up the child from school, but sometimes it is becomes necessary from the part of the school to dont let go the child with them because they have not brought the identification card required at the time of handing over the child to the registered guardian. The person who is authorized to pick up the child, only they can take the child.

Also, if any help is required for the deposition from the school, you can contact Reitz Worldwide.
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Mark Legal;1444129 wrote: Certainly, every parent has the right to pick up the child from school, but sometimes it is becomes necessary from the part of the school to dont let go the child with them because they have not brought the identification card required at the time of handing over the child to the registered guardian. The person who is authorized to pick up the child, only they can take the child.

Also, if any help is required for the deposition from the school, you can contact Reitz Worldwide. I absolutely agree with you. I am an escort for special needs children and the schools I deal with In England would never hand a child over without my ID and authorisation from both parents.
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Mark Legal;1444129 wrote: Certainly, every parent has the right to pick up the child from school, but sometimes it is becomes necessary from the part of the school to dont let go the child with them because they have not brought the identification card required at the time of handing over the child to the registered guardian. The person who is authorized to pick up the child, only they can take the child.

Also, if any help is required for the deposition from the school, you can contact Reitz Worldwide.


That doesn't make any sense in this instance. Everyone seemed to know each other. Unless there are custody issues, no one has the right to interfere with a parent picking up their own child.
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fuzzywuzzy;1444312 wrote: That doesn't make any sense in this instance. Everyone seemed to know each other. Unless there are custody issues, no one has the right to interfere with a parent picking up their own child.


They do If there's a restraining order.
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oscar;1444327 wrote: They do If there's a restraining order.


And did that apply in this case?
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Bryn Mawr;1444328 wrote: And did that apply in this case? I've watched the video and read the link... It doesn't say weather there was or there wasn't... as usual with most cases that get media attention, much happens behind the scenes that doesn't get reported. It's easy to assume a lot from what little the articles gives us but I would say there was more to this than meets the eye.
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oscar;1444333 wrote: I've watched the video and read the link... It doesn't say weather there was or there wasn't... as usual with most cases that get media attention, much happens behind the scenes that doesn't get reported. It's easy to assume a lot from what little the articles gives us but I would say there was more to this than meets the eye.


It's a long stretch to presume a restraining order with no evidence of one.
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Bryn Mawr;1444335 wrote: It's a long stretch to presume a restraining order with no evidence of one. True but then the OP was not very forthcoming.

Since, I have found this which gives far more Information than the OP:

» Father Arrested For Trying to Pick Kids Up From School Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
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oscar;1444336 wrote: True but then the OP was not very forthcoming.

Since, I have found this which gives far more Information than the OP:

� Father Arrested For Trying to Pick Kids Up From School Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!


From that article I'm even more certain I side with the dad.
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Bryn Mawr;1444339 wrote: From that article I'm even more certain I side with the dad. With more detail, I side with him also now.
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why would you belittle me in my own thread ???? Why would you belittle the opening post? Why would you belittle the poster. Why would you belittle the information. Why would you belittle the content of the posts here in?



For Christ Sakes stay out of my threads!!!!!! I demand it . Allow me to have a stress free experience of this forum, without the digs, without the bullying, and snide comments .

GO AWAY!!!!!
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The person who is having identification card and is also authenticated is only the person who is allowed to pick the child.

Also, if any help is required for the deposition from the school and all the legalities which need to be done against the picker , you can contact website .
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