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the grumps
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good evening and welcome to grumpy towers.

we,ve had a sophisticated soireray here at the towers tonight with a bonfire fireworks and plenty of food hot dogs burgers jacket spuds etc

but i couldnt persuade lady grumpy to be the guy fawkes.

now the guests ( you didnt invite me ED) have gone so to tonights seasonal grump.



UPROAR broke out at the Old Bailey today when Islamic fanatics cursed British justice as MP stabber Roshonara Choudhry was jailed for life.

The rebel rousers yelled "curse the judge" as Muslim radical Choudhry was given a recommended minimum sentence of 15 years for the attempted murder of Labour MP Stephen Timms.

A female Muslim juror wearing a headscarf was singled out for abuse by the three firebrands in the public gallery who ranted "shame on you sister".



Read more: Fanatics protest at MP stab trial | The Sun |News

AAG

and the best bit about this is that the judge didnt even lock them up for contempt or that the police didnt even arrest them for inciting racial hatred.

talk about two tier justice they are laughing in our faces and we let them do it.
librtyhead
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England may be lost but hopefully the U.S. stands up for its own citizens first before the invasion comes here.

On Tuesday, a substantial majority of the citizens of Oklahoma took a firm stand for the sufficiency of relying on American law in the courtrooms of their state. State Question 755 on the ballot in the Sooner State placed the following measure before the voters:

This measure amends the State Constitution. It changes a section that deals with the courts of this state. It would amend Article 7, Section 1. It makes courts rely on federal and state law when deciding cases. It forbids courts from considering or using international law. It forbids courts from considering or using Sharia Law.

International law is also known as the law of nations. It deals with the conduct of international organizations and independent nations, such as countries, states and tribes. It deals with their relationship with each other. It also deals with some of their relationships with persons.

The law of nations is formed by the general assent of civilized nations. Sources of international law also include international agreements, as well as treaties.

Sharia Law is Islamic law. It is based on two principal sources, the Koran and the teaching of Mohammed.

Shall the proposal be approved?

Nearly 700,000 voters — approximately 70 percent of those Oklahomans casting a ballot — voted “Yes” on Question 755. Undoubtedly many voters considered the answer to the question to be immediately obvious, and might even have marveled that the question was being asked in the first place. Who would want foreign law or religious regulations to have any place in the courts of these United States?

However, the sad necessity of Question 755 was demonstrated in the immediate aftermath of its adoption, as lawyers for the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-OK) of Oklahoma announced two days after the election that they would file suit challenging the question’s constitutionality.

Supporters and opponents of the measure had, of course, publicly sparred over Question 755 in the months leading up to election day. An October 21 story for FOX 23 (Tulsa) offered both sides of the debate an opportunity to present their positions. The CAIR viewpoint was quite revealing:

“It’s not about Shariah law at all. It’s really about anti-Muslim bigotry,” says Razi Hashimi, spokesperson for CAIR.

Muslim Americans say the measure sends a message of hatred and intolerance, and non-Muslims should not be concerned about Shariah Law.

“As long as it doesn’t affect you in any way, why should you be concerned how I solve a problem between me and my brother, or neighbor who is Muslim? I do not think it should be a matter of concern for a non-Muslim,” asserts Tulsan Mohamed Boudhhir.

CAIR argues the initiative is unnecessary, since the Constitution does not allow religious law to supercede American law.

But it would appear that a majority of Oklahoma voters read Question 755 and came to the conclusion it was precisely about Sharia Law, and those same citizens might find it difficult to understand how that ballot measure could be an unnecessary repetition of constitutional principles and simultaneously a violation of the Constitution.

As Connie Hair wrote for HumanEvents.com:

As previously reported on HUMAN EVENTS, free speech rights are under assault worldwide through violence, threats of violence, and Sharia-compliant “incitement” laws.

In England, 85 Sharia courts are in use and are pulling even non-Muslims into the system, threatening to overturn equal justice in the courts.

The American Thinker tells of a June 2010 study titled “Sharia Law in Britain: A Threat to One Law for All and Equal Rights," which begins with a quote from the Secretary General of the Islamic Sharia Council Suhaib Hasan, “If Sharia law is implemented, then you can turn this country [Great Britain] into a haven of peace because once a thief’s hand is cut off nobody is going to steal.” Furthermore, “once[,] just only once, if an adulterer is stoned[,] nobody is going to commit this crime at all,” and finally, “we want to offer it to the British society. If they accept it, it is for their good and if they don’t accept it they’ll need more and more prisons.”

Any attempt to shut down the dual court system in England would likely cause more jihadi violence and bloodshed.

In 2005, Canada rejected setting up the dual court system amid vocal protest, yet Sharia is creeping into the legal system in divorce and custody cases, undermining the equal status of women under the law.

In the United States in August, a New Jersey judge denied a restraining order to a Muslim woman after she had been repeatedly raped by her husband. Marital rape is permitted under Sharia law.

Given the appearance of what many fear are the spreading tendrils of a theocratic system of law in the United Kingdom and Canada, the Oklahoma ballot measure was clearly interpreted by many voters as a preventative measure against similar developments taking place in this country, as well. Given such concerns, the reaction of CAIR-OK may well feed such fears. As Robert Spencer poignantly summarized the situation for JihadWatch.org: “Oklahoma bans stonings, amputations for theft, death for apostates, Muslims cry ‘Islamophobia.’"

The notion that American courts should be ruled by American law hardly seems, on the face of it, a concept plagued by bigotry or the seedbed of anti-Muslim intolerance. Instead, the question presented to Oklahoma voters — and which they overwhelmingly answered in the affirmative — is whether all who reside within these United States should be held accountable to the same system of law, and that system being established by secular, not religious, authority.
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The Sharia Law fiasco that took place in Canada isn't remotely what hype seekers were trying to make of it. Muslims have sought the right to have their own judicial system to govern Muslims. They haven't once suggested that a foreign country adopt Sharia as the law of the country.

I'm surprised that people who generally dislike the Muslim religion aren't all for it. You'd think they'd be happy to see Western Muslim women subjected to their own religion to finally stop trying to tell Westerners how great it is to be Muslim... if it's so bad. If they choose that religion in a free country then they should have to follow it's laws, no? If not then how are they in a position to say how great it is to be Muslim? I think anti-Muslims should wish the whole she-bang on them... if it's really so terrible.
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the grumps;1342536 wrote: good evening and welcome to grumpy towers.

we,ve had a sophisticated soireray here at the towers tonight with a bonfire fireworks and plenty of food hot dogs burgers jacket spuds etc

but i couldnt persuade lady grumpy to be the guy fawkes.

now the guests ( you didnt invite me ED) have gone so to tonights seasonal grump.



UPROAR broke out at the Old Bailey today when Islamic fanatics cursed British justice as MP stabber Roshonara Choudhry was jailed for life.

The rebel rousers yelled "curse the judge" as Muslim radical Choudhry was given a recommended minimum sentence of 15 years for the attempted murder of Labour MP Stephen Timms.

A female Muslim juror wearing a headscarf was singled out for abuse by the three firebrands in the public gallery who ranted "shame on you sister".



Read more: Fanatics protest at MP stab trial | The Sun |News

AAG

and the best bit about this is that the judge didnt even lock them up for contempt or that the police didnt even arrest them for inciting racial hatred.

talk about two tier justice they are laughing in our faces and we let them do it.


If it was two witches cursing the judge would you expect him to take it seriously? A religious fanatic cursing somebody is just as silly. They wanted to be arrested, ignoring them was perhaps the best tactic.

posted by librtyhead

, Section 1. It makes courts rely on federal and state law when deciding cases. It forbids courts from considering or using international law.




We should do the same, next time an American court wants to extradite a british citizen citing an international treaty to stand trial for something that isn't an offence in the UK we should tell them to bugger off. If you don't respect international law don't bleat about it when other nations do the same and don't pass comment on other countries human rights record when you refuse to recognise international treaties on the matter whenever it suits you.

We've made a rod for our own backs by allowing religious courts for other faiths, personally I would ban the whole lot of them.
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