Pregnant British drugs mule given life but escapes death penalty.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:07 am

Pictured: 'Drugs mule' Briton Samantha Orobator appears in Laos court after accusations she got pregnant to avoid the death penalty | Mail Online

Looks like Pantoandy was right in the first place when he first put the thread on about her getting pregnant to avoid the death penalty.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:24 am

Unfortunately, it looks as though she'll be serving her sentence *here*.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:30 am

Bill Sikes;1198835 wrote: Unfortunately, it looks as though she'll be serving her sentence *here*.
I don't know if you saw Andy's thread on her but most posters jumped in to say she was cruelly raped in prison. Andy and i being cynical old gits didn't believe it.

Why the hell should we the tax payers have to fund her time in prison here? Why can't she rot where she is?

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:12 am

oscar;1198837 wrote: I don't know if you saw Andy's thread on her but most posters jumped in to say she was cruelly raped in prison. Andy and i being cynical old gits didn't believe it.

Why the hell should we the tax payers have to fund her time in prison here? Why can't she rot where she is?

No myself and other posters jumped in because the assumption that someone is arrested and charged means they must be guilty is deeply offensive to anyone with half a grain of common sense. The right to a speedy and fair trial and the assumption that you are innocent until proven guilty is a basic principle that someone with your experience of arrest and trial should well be able to understand the need for.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:16 am

gmc;1198864 wrote: No myself and other posters jumped in because the assumption that someone is arrested and charged means they must be guilty is deeply offensive to anyone with half a grain of common sense. The right to a speedy and fair trial and the assumption that you are innocent until proven guilty is a basic principle that someone with your experience of arrest and trial should well be able to understand the need for. I agree with you but i was still a cynical old git when Andy first posted the thread..... mainly because she was caught with the gear on her. Having said that..... there is still a slim possibility that she was set up to be fair.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:29 am

oscar;1198868 wrote: there is still a slim possibility that she was set up to be fair.

Yes, that's true, isn't it, what a relief, she might be innocent after all - because, let's face it, one might easily overlook 68 "capsules" containing 1 1/2 lbs. of heroin being stuffed into various orifices of one's body, mightn't one. Could happen to anyone, couldn't it. Gosh, the first thing you'd think would be "Oh! I *wonder* where those 68 containers containing 1 1/2 lbs of heroin that I've just noticed stuffed into my various bodily orifices came from!". What a shock *that* would be for the poor innocent person! I wonder how the court could *possibly* convict with such superficial evidence!! Oh, Oh!! Oh, shame! Oh, fie!

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:32 am

Bill Sikes;1198879 wrote: Yes, that's true, isn't it, what a relief, she might be innocent after all - because, let's face it, one might easily overlook 68 "capsules" containing 1 1/2 lbs. of heroin being stuffed into various orifices of one's body, mightn't one. Could happen to anyone, couldn't it. Gosh, the first thing you'd think would be "Oh! I *wonder* where those 68 containers containing 1 1/2 lbs of heroin that I've just noticed stuffed into my various bodily orifices came from!". What a shock *that* would be for the poor innocent person! I wonder how the court could *possibly* convict with such superficial evidence!! Oh, Oh!! Oh, shame! Oh, fie! :yh_rotfl I was thinking along the lines of a unscrupulous drugs baron blackmailing her into doing it but now you put it like that........... :yh_rotfl

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:14 am

Samantha Orobator is back in the UK, where she will serve some of her sentence - probably not much, I imagine.

Bother. She should've been left where she was.

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:36 am

Well, if I was a woman facing the death penalty and knew that if I got pregnant the death penalty would not be applied, I'd probably do my best to get pregnant, too.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:32 am

My problem is that this POS is going to do some of her sentence *here*, and that some idiot actually worked to make this happen.

Post by **Peter Lake** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:08 am

A great shame that the same effort was not put into protecting Gary McKinnon from deportation to the US.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:54 am

Clodhopper;1226654 wrote: Well, if I was a woman facing the death penalty and knew that if I got pregnant the death penalty would not be applied, I'd probably do my best to get pregnant, too.

:wah:thats exactly what i was thinking.. well not the if i was a woman part,, as i am a woman,, but ,, human instinct to survive innit. Not everyone will just say oh aye its a fair cop guv,, pass the noose:-3