Greetings All

Ecthalion · Post by **Ecthalion** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:20 pm

Hello peeps.

My first post. Hope there will be many more.

Looking for discussion, debate, sharing of ideas and making new friends.

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:57 am

Ecthalion;1442042 wrote: Hello peeps.

My first post. Hope there will be many more.

Looking for discussion, debate, sharing of ideas and making new friends.

Then you've come to the right place.

Can't quite make out the avatar

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:46 am

Come right on in.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:16 am

Aloha

along-for-the-ride · Post by **along-for-the-ride** » Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:22 pm

Hello Ect! Enjoy your visits with us and do explain you avatar.

Here's a welcome mat for you

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Ecthalion · Post by **Ecthalion** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:26 am

Thanks chaps and chapesses.

My avatar is a Balrog from the Lord of the Rings. I'm a huge Tolkien fan.

Ecthalion · Post by **Ecthalion** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:27 am

Double posted. Whoops.

TÃ½r · Post by **TÃ½r** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:16 am

Ecthalion;1442096 wrote: My avatar is a Balrog from the Lord of the Rings. I'm a huge Tolkien fan.And there was me thinking it was Comet Ison on final approach.

Tolkien's Middle-Earth is a prime example of why the world's going to the dogs. No orc is capable of salvation, the only good goblin is a dead goblin, children read these things, who's surprised when they then equate orcs with Muslims and sign up to holy war on behalf of crazed fanatics like Tony Blair.

Ecthalion · Post by **Ecthalion** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:57 am

Well I grew up reading Tolkien and I opposed the Iraq war. I also stopped voting Labour after Tony Blair took the leadership so your argument doesn't hold true.

TÃ½r · Post by **TÃ½r** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:19 am

It's a serious point as far as Tolkien goes. Orcs and goblins are acknowledged to derive life from the same divine source as Elves and Men and yet Tolkien treats them as utterly damned, not as individuals but as races. It's the same thinking as that which drove McCarthyism, slavery and Christian Fundamentalism. I refer you to "Where does the Orcish Soul come from?" at Is Eru a Good God?

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:40 am

Ecthalion;1442107 wrote: Well I grew up reading Tolkien and I opposed the Iraq war. I also stopped voting Labour after Tony Blair took the leadership so your argument doesn't hold true.

Well, you did want " discussion, debate and a sharing of ideas "

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:37 am

TÃ½r;1442108 wrote: It's a serious point as far as Tolkien goes. Orcs and goblins are acknowledged to derive life from the same divine source as Elves and Men and yet Tolkien treats them as utterly damned, not as individuals but as races. It's the same thinking as that which drove McCarthyism, slavery and Christian Fundamentalism. I refer you to "Where does the Orcish Soul come from?" at Is Eru a Good God?

Snowfire;1442109 wrote: Well, you did want " discussion, debate and a sharing of ideas "

I wonder what his ideas are on "Weekend at Bernies"?

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:55 am

so just to get things straight here ..........we're not talking about some abstract country or population I havent heard of then?

Oh and hello Ect.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:25 pm

How cool is it attacking somebody on their initial post?

I see the welcome wagon leaving town.

TÃ½r · Post by **TÃ½r** » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:53 pm

Attack? Not at all, we're discussing his specialist subject.