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Wow Bruv, du kenen aroyszogn! Personally, I sprechen better than I aroyszogn & that ain't saying much!

I just want you to be well. Since visiting Britain again tops my "bucket list" (actually, it's the only thing on my list) I want all my UK friends to stay well---at least until we can share a pint (or 2 or...) at your individual locals!

Good luck to you & have the best results. I veto your membership in the club.
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I think the answer is no, but I am not sure what the question was.

Google links straight back to HERE......this thread.

I don't kenen much at all, it's all Google's fault.
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It's the thought that counts! :-)
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Let's hope all is good news - just lesions & nothing else.

this must of been your 1st colonoscopy? always be sedated.

you will have another colonoscopy - every 2-3 yrs for now on....:-2

wasn't that prep solution terrible to drink? it comes in different flavors ...:wah:

Take care

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"it comes in different flavors"

All of them Horrible! I was never offered a choice btw. You must have a nice gastroenterologist, Patsy.
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Anne

She's wonderful..!

the different flavors don't make any difference - I just go with plain.

it is better chilled...:wah:

It's a horrible procedure - but necessary

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Patsy Warnick;1422147 wrote: Bruv

Let's hope all is good news - just lesions & nothing else.

this must of been your 1st colonoscopy? always be sedated.

you will have another colonoscopy - every 2-3 yrs for now on....:-2

wasn't that prep solution terrible to drink? it comes in different flavors ...:wah:

Take care

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Thank you Patsy, fingers crossed, this episode will only be few more grey hairs and not scars (even little ones)

The preperation was a nice citrony taste at first, so I put a little orange squash in to enhance it. I was gagging from halfway through the first batch, and as I hadn't altered my diet to roughage free due to overlooking the supplied instructions, I thought I had better make sure take it all to make double sure.

Yes , sedation next time for sure, I am not that macho
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The week before last I got a letter from the Greek gastrologist, giving me a date for my next appointment 22nd April.

That was a relief, my reasoning being it can't that urgent or it would have been a lot sooner.

Then earlier this week I got another appoinment as an out patient for my colorectal surgery.

If it were not an Easter weekend I would be up the doctors asking questions.

Hopefully I shall see him Tuesday
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Bruv;1423458 wrote: The week before last I got a letter from the Greek gastrologist, giving me a date for my next appointment 22nd April.

That was a relief, my reasoning being it can't that urgent or it would have been a lot sooner.

Then earlier this week I got another appoinment as an out patient for my colorectal surgery.

If it were not an Easter weekend I would be up the doctors asking questions.

Hopefully I shall see him Tuesday Good luck with the surgery...
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oscar;1423461 wrote: Good luck with the surgery...


Yeah ! Absolutely. Very good luck with that
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Bruv

I'm sure you'll do fine thru this procedure. Do you know what the DR.'s are looking for? or found?

I was under the impresson removing lesions was the extent of the issue.?

Medicine interest me - I hope I'm not over stepping by asking.?

were you expecting the follow-up calls - procedure?

Only a few here at FG are aware that my husband just went thru colon surgery 12/12/2012 We spent C'Mas in the hospital.

Dr.'s found a mass in his colon - disconnected his colon which he had a osomy (bag) attached - Oh, trust me he didn't want to go thru this surgery. March 2013 my husband had the surgery to reconnect the colon and is doing great.

Medical has grown to be able to do amazing procedures that they wouldn't of been able to do a few years ago. My husband's experience was the worst scenario with a good outcome.

The mass developed from the radiation he had for cancer 2004 - lymph nodes cancer.

This is just a example and I am now comfortable to speak of - stressful time - yes...!

Your situation is different - in the same region.

I suppose you have to drink that junk again? Hopefully the DR. will put you at ease when you talk to him Tuesday, write down any & all questions so your comfortable.

Please keep us posted

Hug & prayers to you & your family

I'll be thinking of you all

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Bruv;1423458 wrote: The week before last I got a letter from the Greek gastrologist, giving me a date for my next appointment 22nd April.

That was a relief, my reasoning being it can't that urgent or it would have been a lot sooner.

Then earlier this week I got another appoinment as an out patient for my colorectal surgery.

If it were not an Easter weekend I would be up the doctors asking questions.

Hopefully I shall see him Tuesday
That would be my thought, too. Fingers crossed for ya, Bruv.
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Thank you all for your good wishes, especially Patsy for sharing her experience.

What I forgot to mention was the second apointement for surgery is for 16th April, so before the one with the cheery Greek consultant, (we both seemed to like each other )

I am concerned they are not talking to each other, I have had no follow up to the horrendous tests, I was expecting at the very least a letter, and would prefer a chat face to face with someone, anyone.

I am not one to worry, I have said and it's true, that I worry about my NOT worrying about somethings I ought to worry about.

I don't believe I have anything major, but I would like to know.
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I don't understand why it is being called 'surgery' and not 'procedure'.

You are right not to worry, as that solves nothing and patsy is so right in what she said. There are miracles today, Bruv my dear.

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Bruv;1423474 wrote: Thank you all for your good wishes, especially Patsy for sharing her experience.

What I forgot to mention was the second apointement for surgery is for 16th April, so before the one with the cheery Greek consultant, (we both seemed to like each other )

I am concerned they are not talking to each other, I have had no follow up to the horrendous tests, I was expecting at the very least a letter, and would prefer a chat face to face with someone, anyone.

I am not one to worry, I have said and it's true, that I worry about my NOT worrying about somethings I ought to worry about.

I don't believe I have anything major, but I would like to know. Please don't worry Bruv....

When you had your procedure, had they found anything sinister, they would have told you while you were there.

Did they take a biopsy during the procedure? If so, It's often the case that your GP assumes the hospital has Informed you and the hospital assumes your GP has called you In for a chat about the results...

If It's really worrying you, don't suffer In silence. Phone your GP
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Oscar is right, you should absolutely know. Then, don't worry! I know it's frightening.
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oscar;1423478 wrote: Please don't worry Bruv....

If It's really worrying you, don't suffer In silence. Phone your GP


As I said I don't worry.

They found lesions, they tatooed them, so they could find them better later....I think.

I understood I was to have some sort of keyhole surgery at some stage (even thought I should get some jamas)

I thought I would have had someone brief me about whatever ails me before this stage.

My concern is that nobody has been in touch other than giving me appointments without some explanation as to what it really is all about.

I hardly have any symptoms, just an uneasy stomach, a minor discomfort.

My aim is to talk to my Doctor on Tuesday
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Bruv;1423484 wrote: As I said I don't worry.

They found lesions, they tatooed them, so they could find them better later....I think.

I understood I was to have some sort of keyhole surgery at some stage (even thought I should get some jamas)

I thought I would have had someone brief me about whatever ails me before this stage.

My concern is that nobody has been in touch other than giving me appointments without some explanation as to what it really is all about.

I hardly have any symptoms, just an uneasy stomach, a minor discomfort.

My aim is to talk to my Doctor on Tuesday The trouble Is, the most Innocent of polyps can turn cancerous at any time... I know !!!

They should have explained things better for you though.... Your GP should have received a full summery though.
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Interesting. Here, colon lesions are not marked but immediately burnt off, or removed in some way.
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AnneBoleyn;1423477 wrote: I don't understand why it is being called 'surgery' and not 'procedure'.

You are right not to worry, as that solves nothing and patsy is so right in what she said. There are miracles today, Bruv my dear.

Best wishes.
'Surgery' is what Brits call the doctor's office, I think.

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Bruv said "for surgery" not "at surgery". Just nit-picking! :-)
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Good point.
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What has thrown me is the timing and the letters from different departments.

First appointment from the Doctor that arranged for the colonoscopy on 22nd.

Followed by another appointment on the 16th saying "We are pleased to offer you the following colorectal surgery outpatient appoinment"

Whether that second appoinment (which happens to be first) is for the talk through or surgery I don't know, after thinking about it.

Whatever will be will be...
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You're fortunate that you have the ability to not overly worry about things because it can be a true energy zapper.

Good luck with everything, Bruv!
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Saw my GP today.

I showed him the 2 appointment letters and asked humourously if the two depts talked to each other, he laughed.

Said they have all my details on the same screen.

The pleasant Greek Dr is interested in my gastro, the other dept I haven't been to yet is interested in my bowel area, and they are all working together.

He weighed me, took my blood pressure, and assurred me as I was putting on weight after stopping smoking it shouldn't be the big C.

He said it was probably an information visit and not surgery on the 16th as I would need to have some preparation before surgery.
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Bruv;1423601 wrote: Saw my GP today.

I showed him the 2 appointment letters and asked humourously if the two depts talked to each other, he laughed.

Said they have all my details on the same screen.

The pleasant Greek Dr is interested in my gastro, the other dept I haven't been to yet is interested in my bowel area, and they are all working together.

He weighed me, took my blood pressure, and assurred me as I was putting on weight after stopping smoking it shouldn't be the big C.

He said it was probably an information visit and not surgery on the 16th as I would need to have some preparation before surgery.


That's a good point.... If they wanted to do another procedure, they'd have sent you the junk to drink.... fingers crossed for you xxxx
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Bruv

As I stated earlier - the prep for any surgery in that region would require you to drink that good solution drink..

The bowel appt. - any surgery would require the drink solution.

The bowel appt. 16th would be the specialist -& will inform you and ask any & all questions you may have - & they may have you take a CT scan to eliminate any questions. If that's the case - make sure your system can handle any contrast dye solution whether injected or a drink. it's a iodine and many people can't tolerate the iodine.

And there's nothing wrong with asking for a copy of your records this specialist has on file.

I'm sure all is good or your GP would had said - it's not a secret..

Thank you for being open with this issue - as I have to come to reality of the road my husband & I have traveled the last few months. and all is great with him too.

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I wonder why people.....(myself included) start threads like this ? (Might start a thread to get the answer)

No real updates, just a post to query the way the NHS works, or at least my local Hospital.

I got a letter telling me I had missed an appoinment on 18th March, I had no notification of any such appointment.

I phoned up the Hospital and found the different options too many for my feeble mind to cope with.

I studied the letters and came up with a dedicated Appointments Number, they knew nothing about it and it was the wrong dept. anyway, they told me another number to call.

These people said I shouldn't worry, as I was still being seen by that dept when I read out the list of prior and pending appointments.

Today I got a reminder for the future appointment on the 16th April in the post, the one I knew about already. That is in two weeks, the 'reminder' is about as much use as the original letter, in that it is too far ahead of the date. It is like your alarm clock going off at midnight to 'remind' you it will wake you at 7.00am.

I seems to me there is a breakdown in the appointment dept, each letter is costing money, plus the phantom appointment I knew nothing about.

I hope their medical competence is better than their appointment coordination.
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Oh for God's sake - like you don't have enough on your mind.

So - now you'll get a bill for a missed appointment..!:-2

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We don't have medical bills In the UK Patsy. We don't pay a bean for our medical treatment. It's free to begger or rich man.
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"I hope their medical competence is better than their appointment coordination."

:yh_rotfl

Gosh Bruv, me too!
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oscar;1423776 wrote: We don't have medical bills In the UK Patsy. We don't pay a bean for our medical treatment. It's provided by taxpayers to begger or rich man.


Fixed.
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oscar;1423776 wrote: we don't have medical bills in the uk patsy. We don't pay a bean for our medical treatment. It's free to begger or rich man.


accountable;1423784 wrote: we don't have medical bills in the uk patsy. We don't pay a bean for our medical treatment. It's provided by taxpayers to begger or rich man.

fixed.
oscar;1423776 wrote: we don't have medical bills in the uk patsy. We don't pay a bean at the lowest points in our lives, a socialist government sought a fairer, more caring approach, taxing everyone on a graduated scale, to fund universal healthcare from cradle to grave for all citizens. It's free at source to begger or rich man.


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I apologize for having brought politics into this thread.
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Accountable;1423793 wrote: I apologize for having brought politics into this thread. You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself....I'm not posting here any more.
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oscar;1423795 wrote: You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself....I'm not posting here any more.


That's all it took? I wish I had known sooner.
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Accountable;1423793 wrote: I apologize for having brought politics into this thread.


I apologise for responding (But not for using the English spelling, in an English thread, about an Englishman and his experience with the English/British Health Service)
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Oscar

Sorry - I forgot the health care system in the UK

with a duplicate scheduling error - at the time of visit we'd have to pay the co-pay for the missed appt.

We had to pay $800.00 up front for my husbands last surgery along with many other co-pays.

very expensive to stay healthy here.



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Bruv;1423802 wrote: I apologise for responding (But not for using the English spelling, in an English thread, about an Englishman and his experience with the English/British Health Service)


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It is a bugger all right.

Where did I get to last time I posted ?

Did I tell of the "You missed an appointment" letter ?

I turned up today for the appointment I knew about and asked about the appointment they said I missed, they said they had phoned but hadn't got through, took my mobile number for next time. It seems the person responsible for making the appointment, didn't tell the system they failed to talk to me.......and so I failed to attend an appointment I knew nothing about.

Now for the bad news........kick in the testes time, confirmed bowel cancer, with Lymphoma to make it interesting.

23rd April for a pre admission clinic 3rd May for the operation, 6 days in hospital, 6 weeks recovery......allegedly.

The other irritation will be dealt with by chemo later.

Good news.....I get new pyjamas, and jockey shorts (my wife tells me.....Im a y front sort of bloke)

My wife's daughter has, this last week under gone surgery for breast cancer.

She went into hospital the day of the operation, spent one night in there and returned home the next day.

She looks remarkably well.

She prayed for me today, every little bit helps I suppose, felt a total **** when she wanted me to kneel and be born again......and I politely refused.
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That sucks! Fight this, Bruv. Hopefully they've found everything and it's still early. I know virtually nothing of this sort of thing.

Hey, instead of jockeys, what about that new fashion statement Oscar mentioned? :wah:
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Bruv

I'm sorry for your news.

You can do this.

My hub survived Lymphoma cancer - chemo & radiation

then recently he had the obstruction/mass in his colon. During the recent mass surgery he had a osmy - bag attached to him which was reversed this March.

Discuss every action and what the reaction will be. Did the DR. discuss a Osmy with you?

You can do this and your not alone on this journey - you'll be up & out of that Hospital sooner than you think.

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I am so very sorry to hear this news Bruv. I look forward to seeing you here every day and your presence means a lot to me. Bless you.
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Bruv;1424609 wrote: It is a bugger all right.

Where did I get to last time I posted ?

Did I tell of the "You missed an appointment" letter ?

I turned up today for the appointment I knew about and asked about the appointment they said I missed, they said they had phoned but hadn't got through, took my mobile number for next time. It seems the person responsible for making the appointment, didn't tell the system they failed to talk to me.......and so I failed to attend an appointment I knew nothing about.

Now for the bad news........kick in the testes time, confirmed bowel cancer, with Lymphoma to make it interesting.

23rd April for a pre admission clinic 3rd May for the operation, 6 days in hospital, 6 weeks recovery......allegedly.

The other irritation will be dealt with by chemo later.

Good news.....I get new pyjamas, and jockey shorts (my wife tells me.....Im a y front sort of bloke)

My wife's daughter has, this last week under gone surgery for breast cancer.

She went into hospital the day of the operation, spent one night in there and returned home the next day.

She looks remarkably well.

She prayed for me today, every little bit helps I suppose, felt a total **** when she wanted me to kneel and be born again......and I politely refused.


I am so sorry to to hear your bad news. I know this sounds futile right now because like me, your mind runs riot when you receive the news, but If they catch It early, It can be dealt with.

The most Important thing Is that you will be dealt with quickly and you have family to support you. Sending you a hug anyway..... Chin up ((((( )))))
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Bruv;1424609 wrote: It is a bugger all right.

Where did I get to last time I posted ?

Did I tell of the "You missed an appointment" letter ?

I turned up today for the appointment I knew about and asked about the appointment they said I missed, they said they had phoned but hadn't got through, took my mobile number for next time. It seems the person responsible for making the appointment, didn't tell the system they failed to talk to me.......and so I failed to attend an appointment I knew nothing about.

Now for the bad news........kick in the testes time, confirmed bowel cancer, with Lymphoma to make it interesting.

23rd April for a pre admission clinic 3rd May for the operation, 6 days in hospital, 6 weeks recovery......allegedly.

The other irritation will be dealt with by chemo later.

Good news.....I get new pyjamas, and jockey shorts (my wife tells me.....Im a y front sort of bloke)

My wife's daughter has, this last week under gone surgery for breast cancer.

She went into hospital the day of the operation, spent one night in there and returned home the next day.

She looks remarkably well.

She prayed for me today, every little bit helps I suppose, felt a total **** when she wanted me to kneel and be born again......and I politely refused.


Sorry it's turned out bad news, keep your chin up and fight the bugger. Thank God for the National Health service hey, even though someone buggered up the appointments system :rolleyes:

Good luck :-6
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Accountable;1424613 wrote: That sucks! Fight this, Bruv.
I shall be fighting in my own understated way no worries, stiff upper lip dontcha know?



Patsy Warnick;1424614 wrote: Bruv

You can do this.

Did the DR. discuss a Osmy with you?

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I think so........thats the *cough* Bag........?

I should think they will go into depth when next I visit for the Pre-admission clinic.

I shall have gathered my thoughts by then......make them answer everything on my mind.

AnneBoleyn;1424620 wrote: I look forward to seeing you here every day and your presence means a lot to me. Bless you.
Aw Shucks........thanks, I will be staying around for sometime.....hopefully



oscar;1424622 wrote:

If they catch It early, It can be dealt with.

The most Important thing Is that you will be dealt with quickly and you have family to support you. Sending you a hug anyway..... Chin up ((((( )))))
My wife's side have been praying......makes me a little uneasy to be honest.

She phoned my only sister, I have to phone my kids tonight, didn't want to spoil their whole day.

Thank you all.

Strange thing is, I have virtually no symptoms, just a bit of discomfort in my stomach.
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Bruv;1424625 wrote:

Strange thing is, I have virtually no symptoms, just a bit of discomfort in my stomach. Well, That's how my Sister started. She Ignored It until she started bleeding from the rear end. To cut a very long story short, she ended up In a right mess, full Chemo for a year, everything and she Is still not over the worst. When I noticed a change In bowel habits, I mentioned my Sister to my Doctor and that was It, next thing I knew, I was In Frenchay hospital being told It was just a precaution. Then they found mine but mine was very early thank goodness.
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Post by Bryn Mawr »

That's as shitty a piece of news as can be - if praying will help then be sure I'll be praying for you.

In the meantime, have faith in the doctors and belief in your body's ability to beat this
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Sending good thoughts your way, Bruv.
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Post by Bruv »

Thank you for all your good wishes.

I have just got off the phone, nobody can believe their healthy, never ever ill father/brother could dare to have such a thing happen to him.

As I tried to explain, I ride a bike every day, have a physical job, don't have any symptoms other than a gippy tummy, have never been into a hospital for anything other than cuts, I heal fast............................so I shall be OK.
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