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Another oddity, today for the first time in living memory there were no undelivered mail notifications.

Most likely a coincidence as there have been normal numbers on other days since the move.
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I think I'll raise a ticket. Please note I'm not online on May 5-6th.
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It is still not cancelling visited posts, and after posting yesterday or the day before the post didnt appear so I posted again which didn't appear either until I left the site then came back...................................fingers crossed with this one.
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Same thing happened........now both should appear.....after I have gone again.

After clicking post I see the post appear, then clicking on New Posts it shows the thread I just posted to, but without my post.....and thats why I double posted here.
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Bruv;1518828 wrote: Same thing happened........now both should appear.....after I have gone again.

After clicking post I see the post appear, then clicking on New Posts it shows the thread I just posted to, but without my post.....and thats why I double posted here.


So a big delay with some of the database updates?
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Bryn Mawr;1518829 wrote: So a big delay with some of the database updates?


Hope you are not asking me ?

I shall now click post......and see what happens.
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OK......it showed as posted.

Then clicking New Posts (which shouldn't then show the thread I posted to ) the post didn't appear.
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Now I have posted twice in this thread with niether appearing............this is the 3rd post, they disappear briefly then like magic reappear.
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Bruv;1518832 wrote: OK......it showed as posted.

Then clicking New Posts (which shouldn't then show the thread I posted to ) the post didn't appear.


I have actually never seen updates I'v made to posts show up as new posts, when I click the "New Posts" link. I don't see new posts until someone else posts to a thread. If I look at the thread, again, after posting my posts show up.

I did have to log out and back in 3 or for times before seeing what I thought of as normal behavior after the update.
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Thats what I meant to say Lars......................really just testing now to see if things are working properly again.
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No they are not..............working properly I mean.

Had to leave the site and refresh before I got my post to show.
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Well, usually, I never log out. I just close the window, or go browse another site.

When I do log out, and come back, After I log in, the first screen I get tells me that if I am new to the forum I should register, and has an option to log in. (as if I am not logged in. When I do log in, again, I get the same page.

However from that page, I can hit new posts, and it will take me to the normal page for viewing new posts.

A bit weird.
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So, I take back what I said earlier about things looking normal, now.
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Well.......I never log out.....I'm a rebel.

(Just greeted a new recruit...clicked new posts to move on......and the thread I posted to was showing without my post as the last one)
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Those last two posts from me,...I made while the system was telling me I was logged out.
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And a second day with no undelivered mail. Odd!
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Having problems logging in, logs me in then when I try to go to thread shows me as logged out. Can't reply to thread have to go to forum, log in go to new thread then click on thread can then reply. If I click on a page number it throws me out again I cannot reply with quote have to do as above. weird
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gmc;1518863 wrote: Having problems logging in, logs me in then when I try to go to thread shows me as logged out. Can't reply to thread have to go to forum, log in go to new thread then click on thread can then reply. If I click on a page number it throws me out again I cannot reply with quote have to do as above. weird


Clearing your cache and cookies should help with that.
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Bryn Mawr;1518865 wrote: Clearing your cache and cookies should help with that.


Nope

Same stuff
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posted by brynmawr

Clearing your cache and cookies should help with that.


Do that as amatter of course.
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Oh dear ! :-5 :rolleyes:
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G#Gill;1518908 wrote: Oh dear ! :-5 :rolleyes:


I think the main news is that we still have a working server with maintained security. We temporarily have a cache problem. As far as I can see there's nothing we can't actually do.

What's wrong is people being shown old pages, or old parts of pages, for up to 15 minutes after anyone's either posted or looked at a page. It's a display error. Cached copies aren't being flushed somewhere between the forum and the user's screen. Refreshing the user screen clears the problem immediately.

We're looking for the configuration mistake.
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There is the posts that you make not clearing from the New Posts list too..........................although it may be the same issue.

"As far as I can see there's nothing we can't actually do." Is that a linguistic twist I am unaware of ? Or did you say can't by mistake ?
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One may not end a sentence with a preposition.

"Is that a linguistic twist of which I am unaware?", please.
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"As far as I can see there's nothing we can't actually do.".......................Is that a linguistic twist of which I am unaware?

Are you in politician mode ?
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It's an accurate description of the state of ForumGarden's software, I think. It was intended to be.
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Logged in this morning and it worked perfectly.

Have you found the problem? :-)
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Bryn Mawr;1518990 wrote: Logged in this morning and it worked perfectly.

Have you found the problem? :-)


Hmm, a touch overoptimistic.

Logged in and it went straight to the logged in state with new posts etc. Everything worked as expected until after I'd made the above post but then back to not clearing the outstanding thread list, came back into the thread and my post did not show until I hit F5 to refresh.

Oh well.
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That and the out of memory emails is not good. I'll push at it this evening.
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I'm getting the same problem of not clearing read threads. I can read all posts, the "Go To First Unread Post", and it goes to the first post I read.
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Now when I reply to a thread, the page wierdly jumps until I have refeshed it several times, even then clicking on New Posts doesn't clear the post from that catagory or change the font to light as it was previously.
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I log in but as soon as I try to reply to a post I get kicked out although not all the rtime. If I go back to home I get kicked out, some threads UI can only reply if I use reply to thread. What is going on?
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gmc;1519332 wrote: I log in but as soon as I try to reply to a post I get kicked out although not all the rtime. If I go back to home I get kicked out, some threads UI can only reply if I use reply to thread. What is going on?


The host has updated the operating system (though not to the latest spec for some reason) and that also forced an update of several of the associated system utilities.

As far as they're concerned the update has been successful but ... either one of the updated utilities is not working with the version of vB that we're running or one of the configuration files has been reset to a value that is messing us up.

Should be a simple problem but there are so many places it could be hiding that it's taking a long time to sort.
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I am sure management are working hard to sort it.

Is part of the problem an overdose of word games ? Just a suggestion.
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Greetings.
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Starship personnel should be aware that the Navigation Officer will test the emergency evacuation systems several times over the coming week. Occasional downtime may be expected. In the event of a genuine crisis during this period the words "This is not a drill", "Captain to the bridge" and "Brace! Brace!" will prefix all announcements.
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Aye Aye Spock er Spot..
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All hands, now hear this. This is the Navigation officer.

System maintenance is scheduled for this weekend. Prepare to experience occasional half-hour periods of downtime.

That is all.
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Attention, attention...............................has anybody seen, or heard from ZAP ? Does anybody know whether she is still with us, or has she passed to a better place where she can roam to her heart's content ?

I know that she was a 'paid up member' and her name was always green, so maybe Bryn could indicate whether her annual sub has been stopped or whether she is still paying ?

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G#Gill;1531101 wrote: Attention, attention...............................has anybody seen, or heard from ZAP ? Does anybody know whether she is still with us, or has she passed to a better place where she can roam to her heart's content ?

I know that she was a 'paid up member' and her name was always green, so maybe Bryn could indicate whether her annual sub has been stopped or whether she is still paying ?

Please try to help !


From the database, the last subscription was in 2011 and the last login was November 2018. I have no social media accounts to look beyond the site but perhaps someone else can check in that direction.
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spot;1531107 wrote: From the database, the last subscription was in 2011 and the last login was November 2018. I have no social media accounts to look beyond the site but perhaps someone else can check in that direction.


Thank you so much, Mr. spot, for such a prompt reply. Although you weren't able to give much info. at least you were able to give me something. I looked at the 'members list' on FG and ZAP is still incliuded and is in green. As far as I am aware the member's name reverts back to black if they do not pay another subscription, so this confuses me with regard to ZAP as her name is still in green.

Maybe she signed a Direct Debit several years ago, so that subscriptions still carried on and perhaps relatives hadn't yet realised this to cancel the DD. Just a thought and I hope that Mary Hyde (ZAP) is. in fact, still alive. The last I heard was that she was touring round the USA and looking up various relatives and I think that was 2017/ 18. She seemed quite fit at that time so I keep my fingers crossed.

Thanks, once more for your quick reply !
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G#Gill;1531111 wrote: Thank you so much, Mr. spot, for such a prompt reply. Although you weren't able to give much info. at least you were able to give me something. I looked at the 'members list' on FG and ZAP is still incliuded and is in green. As far as I am aware the member's name reverts back to black if they do not pay another subscription, so this confuses me with regard to ZAP as her name is still in green.

Maybe she signed a Direct Debit several years ago, so that subscriptions still carried on and perhaps relatives hadn't yet realised this to cancel the DD. Just a thought and I hope that Mary Hyde (ZAP) is. in fact, still alive. The last I heard was that she was touring round the USA and looking up various relatives and I think that was 2017/ 18. She seemed quite fit at that time so I keep my fingers crossed.

Thanks, once more for your quick reply !


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There may be a half-hour downtime before May, I need a working site copy downloading.

May starts on Friday, for those in lockdown who haven't kept up.

Today is Wednesday.
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