regarding PM's

anastrophe · Post by **anastrophe** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:51 pm

a reminder: PM stands for "Private Messaging". Private cuts in all directions - what you PM to somebody else is private - but that means that what someone else PM's to you is private, and is not to be shared with anyone else - by any mechanism, posting or via PM - without the original author's consent.

We don't monitor or control PM's. It's not practical to do so, nor is it something we want to do. However, we *do* have the ability to read PM's if necessary or warranted, either due to a complaint or due to a request from law enforcement (upon presentment of a sworn subpoena, and that has never happened).

down at the bottom of every single page on forum garden is a link to "legal info". within that, is a link to our terms of service. read both pages. it's a buncha legalese, primarily to cover our asses. but it does affect you.

of course, if you just use common sense, about 85% of it will already be covered. don't violate confidences. be nice to one another. don't drink month old milk. objects in mirror are closer than they appear.

Post by **spot** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:02 pm

May I ask the purpose of the Control Button marked "Forward" in the PM space? Perhaps that causes confusion - the site's provision of the facility to pass PMs on.

(added on edit): Since this matter causes such continuous friction, perhaps you could revisit your reason for setting the site policy that way. Perhaps a free-for-all on sharing PMs (though not posting them in public) would make a lot more sense and free you from so many complaints to investigate?

anastrophe · Post by **anastrophe** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:17 pm

spot wrote: May I ask the purpose of the Control Button marked "Forward" in the PM space? Perhaps that causes confusion - the site's provision of the facility to pass PMs on.

(added on edit): Since this matter causes such continuous friction, perhaps you could revisit your reason for setting the site policy that way. Perhaps a free-for-all on sharing PMs (though not posting them in public) would make a lot more sense and free you from so many complaints to investigate?

if we got a lot of complaints, we might. but we don't get very many complaints at all. rarer than hen's teeth.

Post by **spot** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:21 pm

anastrophe wrote: if we got a lot of complaints, we might. but we don't get very many complaints at all. rarer than hen's teeth.I think the sharing prohibition rule is actually responsible for a lot of the friction. The fuss is that some people are trying to get other people banned, by proving that the other people shared PM text with yet further members but without consent of the original writer. It's been going on for a year at least. The trying to get someone banned technique to end a fight is particularly horrible. You admins retain full flexibility when it comes to punishment for a given offence, of course, so there's a sensible backstop to it all.

None of this is about violating confidences, all of it is about passing round threats and abuse. I suggest there would be a lot less threats and abuse without the existing rule.

anastrophe · Post by **anastrophe** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:26 pm

spot wrote: I think the sharing prohibition rule is actually responsible for a lot of the friction. The fuss is that some people are trying to get other people banned, by proving that the other people shared PM text with yet further members but without consent of the original writer. It's been going on for a year at least. The trying to get someone banned technique to end a fight is particularly horrible. You admins retain full flexibility when it comes to punishment for a given offence, of course, so there's a sensible backstop to it all.

None of this is about violating confidences, all of it is about passing round threats and abuse. I suggest there would be a lot less threats and abuse without the existing rule.

there'd be a lot less threats and abuse if we spiked the water with ecstasy, too. we're looking into it.

yes, i'm being flip. as i said, complaints are rare. most FGers have bigger fish to fry than these petty 'maybe i can get someone who gets under my skin banned' squabbles.

me, i think i'll order a pizza.

Post by **spot** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:28 pm

anastrophe wrote: me, i think i'll order a pizza.Fair enough. I thought I'd wave it in the air and see if anyone was impressed.

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:30 pm

Pinky wrote: Funny enough, I just had a pm which the writer has asked me to post, regarding pm's! Of course I won't, even though the sender requested it.

The overall content was about people PM'ing each other trying to get other members banned.

I think this is absolutely abhorrent - I hate to think any of our FG family would do that to one another.Why did'nt the writer post it

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:32 pm

Something is fishy, and it's not the anchovies.....................

Pepperoni for me, please.

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:33 pm

Pinky wrote: They kind of did!Yes?

Guess i spend too much time in the arcade

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:39 pm

I do surface now & again :wah:

Actually, this thread has prompted me to empty my pm box, i had 1800+ in it!

it was nice looking at some of my old messages from LC and capt buzzard. :-4

anastrophe · Post by **anastrophe** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:40 pm

Pinky wrote: I can't join in...I really can't stand cheese!:(

SHRIEK!

Seriously? you don't like cheese? i can't imagine life without cheese. i gave up cheese for several years after i became lactose intolerant in my early twenties. then the lactase supplements came out, and i again could enjoy cheese, CHEESE, CHEESE!!!!!

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:42 pm

This is turning into one of the cheesiest threads I've ever seen...:yh_eyerol

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:47 pm

Clancy wrote: Huh oh,

......some of my PM's to you were a bit, erm,

Am I in trouble ?

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-Taxi for Clancy :driving:I saved yours hon, just could'nt bear to erase them. :yh_wink

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:02 pm

SnoozeControl wrote: I want to marry a hyena.!!!

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:07 pm

Clancy wrote: I want to sleep with a tall woman.

'kay! :-4

where shall we meet?

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:09 pm

:wah: Still cracks me up!

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:13 pm

Clancy wrote: Your place.

......but you never asked, why I wanted to sleep with a tall woman :-2
:yh_blush :-3

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:19 pm

Clancy wrote: I just wanted to see if tall women slept, L o n g e r in the morning.....that's all :p

:wah:

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:25 pm

Sheryl · Post by **Sheryl** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:25 pm

did I hear pizza???

lot's of canadian bacon and pineapple on mine please sir.

koan · Post by **koan** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:35 pm

valerie wrote:

I congratulate you on one of the cleverest smilies I've seen in some time.

Well done.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:01 am

anastrophe wrote: SHRIEK!

Seriously? you don't like cheese? i can't imagine life without cheese. i gave up cheese for several years after i became lactose intolerant in my early twenties. then the lactase supplements came out, and i again could enjoy cheese, CHEESE, CHEESE!!!!!

Paul,

Many thanks for your pointer to Lactase suppliments.

I've managed to track down the UK equivalent (MilkAid) for my daughter and it's made a huge difference - she can go out for a meal without worrying and we can get some calcium and protien into her again.