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Excuse the title but I don't want to name them.

Excuse "them" but I'm being gender-neutral. I would not want to be judged moaning on account of gender in this instance.

That probably obliges me to avoid using their given name too. I'm going to call them "Opinion Truss" instead.

Opinion Truss has never, to my knowledge, actually been a reporter. Opinion was, while working on radio and for newspapers, an opinionist, a conveyor of opinion. Not a reporter. Just being employed to write for a newspaper doesn't actually bestow the career of "reporter" on anyone.

We, the citizens of the UK, are about to have another fully-installed genuine in-office Prime Minister foisted on us by the membership of the Conservative Party (pop.180,000) in a private exclusive election all of their own, just as we were given So-Called Cameron and Bergholt Stuttley Johnson.

The problem this time round is even more of a spectacular own-goal than the previous shots. Opinion Truss is known for only one official decision, as far as I remember - they announced, while cabinet minister for the Foreign Office, backing for any British vigilantes who wanted to fight in Ukraine. The subsequent U-turn is irrelevant. Other than that, Opinion hasn't actually done anything notable in the House.

'As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding. Like the Roman, I seem to see "the River Tiber foaming with much blood".'

(The whole paragraph is the quote, the quote marks inside were Powell quoting Virgil. I thought I'd borrow an appropriate allusion.)
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So, it appears that you all have narrowed it down to two.



The method of selecting a PM in the UK scares me, a bit.
There are folks in our Rethuglican Party who believe that we should model our selection of President to they way you guys do it.
That scares the shit out of me.
To have the Elephantine Nitwits free to decide who would take up residency in the White House would, in my opinion, be the death of the Good Ol' US of A.
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The rules here change slightly now and then but the essence is that the public elect constituency MPs, and any MP of any party is allowed to form the government of the day by demonstrating the support of the majority of MPs in the House of Commons. The Queen authorizes the recognized contenders to make their demonstration (a vote of confidence is sufficient) and they take turns a bit like the princesses in Cinderella, except they don't use a glass slipper.

To get on the Queens List of who to invite to form a government, the current policy of the Conservative Party is to select one MP and one only, firstly by repeated votes of the MPs like cardinals voting for the Pope but the last two get thrown to the party at large to see who has popular support out there. In theory if any government fails a confidence vote then the next largest party in the House puts one MP forward to the Queen for the same test and so on for all the parties. In practice, if the government loses a vote of confidence then a national election is immediately called, because the next party down is really unlikely to show the confidence of the House.

Once a governing party has selected which MP is their contender to be Prime Minister, that Prime Minister will appoint other MPs to run the various Ministries. That's where all the invisible back-door promises get paid. Disraeli described the process as climbing to the top of the greasy pole.
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So, the Queen could actually say, "Nope. Send someone else."

Has she ever done so?
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LarsMac wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:19 am So, the Queen could actually say, "Nope. Send someone else."

Has she ever done so?
Sadly, if she tried it would be the last time she could - they’d change the rules.
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According to the Washington Post, this potential new PM is a "Shapeshifter"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... -minister/

"It’s fair to say ***** is a shapeshifter. She fought for Britain to remain in the European Union before becoming a staunch defender of Brexit. Her supporters say she accepted the outcome of the 2016 referendum and got with the program. Others say she’s a weather vane, pivoting when it suits her advancement."
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LarsMac wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 8:33 am According to the Washington Post, this potential new PM is a "Shapeshifter"
It's fair to say Opinion Truss has never had a principle in their political career, they're what we in the UK call a chancer.

They're being appointed at Balmoral this afternoon. Balmoral is in Scotland. The last time a Prime Minister was appointed in Balmoral was 1885, it's a long way from London.

I'm rather hoping that when they gets back and starts to make ministerial appointments to their cabinet, they surprise the entire world by inviting Boris Johnson to accept the Foreign Office (becoming what Americans call Secretary of State). Opinion has long been an admirer of their predecessor at Number 10.

The new Prime Minister can be addressed throughout their time in office as @trussliz
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I'm not at all sure our new Prime Minister will be any good in a crisis. This is their press statement yesterday and it is hard to imagine a more lost, panicked and dazed response. "Poignant" in this context appears to be a euphemism for wobbly.

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Well, she reads rather properly.
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LarsMac wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 8:45 am Well, she reads rather properly.
Don't be fooled by the accent. What she clearly needs is acting lessons.
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I thought that I had a grasp of the meaning of 'Poignant', but That does not seem to fit.
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LarsMac wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 11:51 am I thought that I had a grasp of the meaning of 'Poignant', but That does not seem to fit.
Perhaps this month's Prime Minister considers this week's news article poignant?
A clip has emerged of Liz Truss branding the monarchy "disgraceful"

"I'm not against any of [the Royals] personally, I'm against the idea that people can be born to rule – that people, because of the family they are born into, should be able to be the head of state of our country. I think that's disgraceful."

https://www.itv.com/news/calendar/2022- ... isgraceful
Clearly someone who expressed opinions from an early age. Never a wise move in the long run.

Here's the opendemocracy.net poll result for their first week in office:

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Well, I am not entirely in disagreement with her notion, there.

The idea that somebody is qualified to run things, simply because of their birth seems a bit ludicrous, and history has borne that out quite often.
Of course, the Democratic method has not always proved a more reliable method of bringing out the best, either.
The only difference seems to be that in Democracy the people have the opportunity to choose their poison.
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Ms Tuss was born in the right place, right time, went to Oxford, makes her no different to who she was whinging about ??
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I believe that she may have people wishing for Ol' Boris again before long.
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The British unit of currency, the Pound, just hit an all-time low against the American unit of currency, the Dollar. And they've only been in office for three weeks.

I'm not sure where the profanity Christ on a bicycle originates but it definitely fits the circumstance.

Mr Biden said he was “sick and tired” of the theory that cutting taxes for businesses and the wealthy will see the benefits “trickle down” into the pockets of poorer workers.

His comments came after his British counterpart reiterated to broadcasters in New York that tax cuts were key to spurring economic growth across the UK.

Speaking to ITV News, Ms Truss also defended proposals to remove a cap on bankers' bonuses and admitted some of her measures "will be unpopular".

In a message on Twitter, Mr Biden said: “I am sick and tired of trickle-down economics. It has never worked.

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-09-20/bid ... -bonus-cap
Truss and Kwarteng like ‘gamblers in a casino’

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... record-low

As for energy prices, we've spent years saying fossil fuel use has to be reduced and suddenly this new administration throws an estimated £150bn they don't possess directly at one single year's fuel price subsidies instead of allowing the price hikes to bludgeon the British public into actually reducing fossil fuel use. This is a fiscally suicidal mindbogglingly outrageous use of public borrowing.
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Reagan Reincarnate?
Hmmm

Probably not, She has none of his charm, or on-camera presence.
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If anyone's wondering why this happened, last month there were a mere 81,326 members of the Conservative party who successfully voted for Opinion Truss to become Prime Minister. It is not unreasonable to assume that these gold-diggers are predominantly greedy inheritors of the Thatcher barrow-boy generation's loadsamoney philosophy and that quite a few of today's registered trough-feeders have been paying tax at the highest rate band.

Three weeks after taking office as Prime Minister, their government abolished the highest rate band.

The immediate consequence is that British stocks lost half trillion dollars in a single week while the British pound crashed 8% against world currencies and shows every sign of dropping further still.
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