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WonderWendy3;640197 wrote: I forgot about the door knob, yep I did that too with the oldest boy...some people expressed how they thought I was horrible, but it was for his own safety and after I woke up one morning to a dozen of eggs being broken on my couch...well it was a food issue too....

I had my son in Karate classes also, he used to drive the instructor crazy...but it did him good...I had a friend that put her son in gymnastics, he loved the tumbling and jumping...vented the energy and was real good for him.


Ryan used to do gym but it was an hour after school and when the summer came he refused as he had to leave his friends at the park. Maybe I should have forced him to continue with that.

He has had a thing about eggs ever since I can remember. When he was 2-4, used to throw them out of his bedroom window, still does sometimes.
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minks;640201 wrote: Cept at nite if a fire breaks out.

CG breaking things and stealing things is so Common in an ADHD child, what you can try is if he does this take away one of his very special posessions as a consequence hun inforce consequences with him. Hit him hard with this lesson. I volunteered with High Risk kids for a year, and some had to be locked into a small room with nothing inside until they settled down and accepted the consequences to their actions. These were 14 year old boys with severe ADHD and too big to put on a time out chair, they were locked into a room, seems awful but they could not hurt anyone or anything but they learned humiliation and consequences. Be consistant with your son repeat reasure, reward over and over and over.


I didn't know that, he has broken things since he started walking and I thought at the time it was part of him learning but he still does it. Stealing has now become a habit, he just has to do it from kids at school, shops or relatives homes. We spoke about why the other day and he says because he wants it or it gives him a buzz.
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minks;640203 wrote: many folks thought we were horrible for going out in public with Jr minks in a harness


Aww looks cute! I used the wrist one when he was really little but he just used to pull it off.
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crazygal;640264 wrote: Wow you had it bad too. I feel such a miserable cow now. Ryan won't work at school either and refuses to do his homework so gets kept in at lunchtimes a lot to work. I can't even get a diagnoses, that is what is REALLY peeing me off. Shouldn't have to go private, I can't afford to anyway but have to find the money somehow. Most of what Ryan does, ie getting out is life threatening as he has no fear of strangers or crossing roads on his own. He knocks on strangers doors all the time, I'm surprised he is still with me to be honest.


They are fearless and reckless and don't do boundries well that is for sure. Jr Minks nearly lost an eye when she fell from our front porch rail head first into a rose bush. It had been pruned back so was merely thorny sticks and she took one into her face just milimeters beneath her eye. The kid never cried. She ate everything she could find, she swallowed a dollar coin, a 12 inch necklace, ate an african violet plant like it was salad, found gum from the road and ate it, you name it she tried to eat it, she was so lucky she did not choke to death or poison herself. She was a challenge.

CG these kids are one h e l l of a test to us parents.
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SuzyB;640246 wrote: How about a childminder, social services offered to pay for me, for 4 hours a week. Might be worth a try :-4


Four hours isn't enough, would be good though but they don't do it after 6pm, not here anyway. My mum is a childminder too. :D It's after 6 is the worst time with Ryan, thanks for the advice though. :D There are only two at his school and neither do lates.
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SuzyB;640261 wrote: Social services will help CG, after all it's far cheaper than what they'll be paying for him to be in foster care.


THANK YOU! That's what I said to them but they won't. They make me sick! I said so they would rather pay £300 a week to a Foster Carer than £50 or less for things like Karate. They don't have the funds, well duh, where does the money come from for Fostering then! I need you at the next Case Conference, lol.
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How right you are Minks, the number of times I saved my son from near death!! He was death/suicide on wheels! I also, used a wrist harness till he was really old - people gave me odd looks - but it was that or .... doesn't bear thinking about. :-4
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crazygal;640273 wrote: I didn't know that, he has broken things since he started walking and I thought at the time it was part of him learning but he still does it. Stealing has now become a habit, he just has to do it from kids at school, shops or relatives homes. We spoke about why the other day and he says because he wants it or it gives him a buzz.


it's the rush, the challenge, and yep that = a buzz. ADHD kids have huge addictive personalities, everything that gives them a rush they will do and will become addicted to. Many people who excell in music, or art or acting are ADD or ADHD, the thrill hooks them.

I hate to admit it but mine still snitches things, just 2 years ago was caught shoplifting. (she was nearly an adult)

My brother is classic ADHD creative as all heck, thrill seeker, risk taker, and was always getting caught for stealing, or doing stupid things, they feel they are invincible. Here is my brothers quote....

"It is easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission" He lives his life like this still, he has a gambling problem.
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ThePheasant;640262 wrote: CG, I know we talked privately about this and you know that I have been there too.

I wanted to post this too show you that there is help out there and too show that I understand that 'giving up feeling'.

Cutting a long story sort. My son is ADHD and bi-polar. He never slept more than 2 hrs from the day he was born-that in its self wears you down. He was always hyper, hurting himself and depressed. It took a long time and alot of people to finally come up with a diagnosis for him.

Like you I also had a baby girl too look after - it wears you down to the point of giving up.

I felt like a total waste of space, bad mother everything. Because I felt that as his Mum I should be able to recognise, cope and help with his condition.

Somehow, we got through these times. Eventually I had to take him to pysciatric ER to get people to take notice and help. That was our turning point. The right people - social workers, pyciatrists, pedetrician and theripist started listening.

He is now the happiest boy ever. He has friends and doing great in school. Our life has changed. He sleeps!!!!

Remember you have friends here who have been through these things too - shout for help and don't stop till you get it!!!

Don't give up CG - he's your baby boy.

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Thanks hun. They won't agree that there IS anything medically wrong. I tried getting referred to a pediatrician but got declined as he is seeing a psychologist. Maybe I should take him to the hospital and demand he is tested, great idea. I will definately do that Wednesday unless they take him from me tomorrow.
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ThePheasant;640284 wrote: How right you are Minks, the number of times I saved my son from near death!! He was death/suicide on wheels! I also, used a wrist harness till he was really old - people gave me odd looks - but it was that or .... doesn't bear thinking about. :-4


we started with the wrist harnes and had to change to the chest harness, she was a regular hoodini. We got the looks and sneers but I didn't care she was safe.
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minks;640278 wrote: They are fearless and reckless and don't do boundries well that is for sure. Jr Minks nearly lost an eye when she fell from our front porch rail head first into a rose bush. It had been pruned back so was merely thorny sticks and she took one into her face just milimeters beneath her eye. The kid never cried. She ate everything she could find, she swallowed a dollar coin, a 12 inch necklace, ate an african violet plant like it was salad, found gum from the road and ate it, you name it she tried to eat it, she was so lucky she did not choke to death or poison herself. She was a challenge.

CG these kids are one h e l l of a test to us parents.


Wow, makes Ryan sound like an angel, he doesn't do stuff like that thank goodness. I feel now I should be feeling guilty! He has no fear or danger or police.
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crazygal;640288 wrote: Thanks hun. They won't agree that there IS anything medically wrong. I tried getting referred to a pediatrician but got declined as he is seeing a psychologist. Maybe I should take him to the hospital and demand he is tested, great idea. I will definately do that Wednesday unless they take him from me tomorrow.


do treachers have any pull? We got testing for free due to teachers saying she needed it.
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minks;640286 wrote: it's the rush, the challenge, and yep that = a buzz. ADHD kids have huge addictive personalities, everything that gives them a rush they will do and will become addicted to. Many people who excell in music, or art or acting are ADD or ADHD, the thrill hooks them.

I hate to admit it but mine still snitches things, just 2 years ago was caught shoplifting. (she was nearly an adult)

My brother is classic ADHD creative as all heck, thrill seeker, risk taker, and was always getting caught for stealing, or doing stupid things, they feel they are invincible. Here is my brothers quote....

"It is easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission" He lives his life like this still, he has a gambling problem.


Ryan got caught recently and said it scared him from doing it again, did it hell! He complains in Sainsburys that the security guard follows him, I told him that I asked him to.
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crazygal;640282 wrote: THANK YOU! That's what I said to them but they won't. They make me sick! I said so they would rather pay £300 a week to a Foster Carer than £50 or less for things like Karate. They don't have the funds, well duh, where does the money come from for Fostering then! I need you at the next Case Conference, lol.


You need a good family lawyer at the next meeting, I found mine through the CAB, call them tom see a solicitor and get a meeting, trust me I had a letter from one, a week later they offered to help with funding for numerous things to try to occupy Sam. I can relate to most things your saying CG, the only good thing was Sam was diagnosed at 2, although they argued with me for months first, it was only when he was left alone with them for an hour assesment that they believed me, they was saying it was the way I was parenting.
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crazygal;640292 wrote: Wow, makes Ryan sound like an angel, he doesn't do stuff like that thank goodness. I feel now I should be feeling guilty! He has no fear or danger or police.


Do not feel guilty my dear. Engage your son in things he loves. ADHD kids are passionate and often if they have their passion removed they act way worse, if they like to draw buy reams of paper, and crayons let them go, if they like so sing buy them music and an instrument or rent or give em sticks and cans ect. They are good at single tasks like that if the passion is there.

Jr minks loved to draw on desks at school, she got that looked after.. she had to clean them all at recess :wah: She was not passionate about art mind you just a destructive little turd.
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minks;640290 wrote: we started with the wrist harnes and had to change to the chest harness, she was a regular hoodini. We got the looks and sneers but I didn't care she was safe.


Ryan is almost 8 now though. The shoplifting has been more the last year or so. I can handle that as I search him at the till and embarrass him into apologizing and giving things back, it's gotten better. That is one thing anyway.
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minks;640302 wrote: Do not feel guilty my dear. Engage your son in things he loves. ADHD kids are passionate and often if they have their passion removed they act way worse, if they like to draw buy reams of paper, and crayons let them go, if they like so sing buy them music and an instrument or rent or give em sticks and cans ect. They are good at single tasks like that if the passion is there.

Jr minks loved to draw on desks at school, she got that looked after.. she had to clean them all at recess :wah: She was not passionate about art mind you just a destructive little turd.


Thats so funny, you have to keep your soh :wah:
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minks;640294 wrote: do treachers have any pull? We got testing for free due to teachers saying she needed it.


Nope, they just send him to the head. I guess they have the other kids to think about. We have a meeting at the school once a month, Headteacher, Social Worker, School Nurse and me but although we talk about what goes on at school, they punish him by making him stay in and work during breaks (needs to be done but bad for his socializing for his age which he needs). He has to put all of the chairs up after school and things like that. He is too young to be given detention after school, they don't do it until year 3 or 4 although if it's year 3, it won't be long before he finishes school at 4pm every day instead of 3! lol
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I wish you luck CG, it is a long hard struggle to get any sort of diagnosis these days. All the specialists have to say is that we shouldn't 'label' our children, but without the label there is no help available.

It's taken me from the time my son entered nursery until this year to get a diagnosis, even then they didn't want to give him a 'label', wanted to put him on sedatives instead.

Do you have meetings with the SENCO at school, has he been statemented at all?
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SuzyB;640301 wrote: You need a good family lawyer at the next meeting, I found mine through the CAB, call them tom see a solicitor and get a meeting, trust me I had a letter from one, a week later they offered to help with funding for numerous things to try to occupy Sam. I can relate to most things your saying CG, the only good thing was Sam was diagnosed at 2, although they argued with me for months first, it was only when he was left alone with them for an hour assesment that they believed me, they was saying it was the way I was parenting.


I have one, she came to the last meeting. All she did though was to right notes, she says they don't have the right to be in with the discussion. The next one is 19th July. What shall I ask them to say? The trouble is until and if he gets a diagnosis, they won't shell out for help and until I get help I just get more and more crazy.
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crazygal;640311 wrote: Nope, they just send him to the head. I guess they have the other kids to think about. We have a meeting at the school once a month, Headteacher, Social Worker, School Nurse and me but although we talk about what goes on at school, they punish him by making him stay in and work during breaks (needs to be done but bad for his socializing for his age which he needs). He has to put all of the chairs up after school and things like that. He is too young to be given detention after school, they don't do it until year 3 or 4 although if it's year 3, it won't be long before he finishes school at 4pm every day instead of 3! lol


They tried that with Sam but if anyone needs breaks it is a child with ADHD, because they couldn't offer extra help to watch him, I used to go in and watch him. It is wrong that he is kept in, does he like school?
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minks;640302 wrote: Do not feel guilty my dear. Engage your son in things he loves. ADHD kids are passionate and often if they have their passion removed they act way worse, if they like to draw buy reams of paper, and crayons let them go, if they like so sing buy them music and an instrument or rent or give em sticks and cans ect. They are good at single tasks like that if the passion is there.

Jr minks loved to draw on desks at school, she got that looked after.. she had to clean them all at recess :wah: She was not passionate about art mind you just a destructive little turd.


:wah: He loves his bike, that got taken away from him as he just rode off on it all the time. He loves music. Has a great organ my parents bought him at Christmas, his dad bought him a guitar recently but nothing keeps him in. Loves painting too but I had to throw them when we moved as I don't have anywhere here he can do it, even with rags on the floor. He would sneak a paintbrush out of the room and paint on his walls and stuff, did that at the last place.
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SuzyB;640318 wrote: They tried that with Sam but if anyone needs breaks it is a child with ADHD, because they couldn't offer extra help to watch him, I used to go in and watch him. It is wrong that he is kept in, does he like school?


Socially he needs to spend more time with the other kids as they see him as naughty. He only has a small group of real friends and as soon as they won't do what he wants he will turn on them. He loves school although I don't know why. When I collect him he says he has been kept in, shouted at etc. Moans about it saying he hates teachers and some of the kids but seems to like school. Trying to get him ready in the mornings is a nightmare but he enjoys going, weird.
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crazygal;640315 wrote: I have one, she came to the last meeting. All she did though was to right notes, she says they don't have the right to be in with the discussion. The next one is 19th July. What shall I ask them to say? The trouble is until and if he gets a diagnosis, they won't shell out for help and until I get help I just get more and more crazy.


Does she specialise in this??? I would call her tomorrow and insist on an appt, explain the circumstances and if need be say that you want to put a complaint and want a hearing against your borough's social services. They'll soon get teir ar5es into gear. They DO have funding for this, it was offered for Sam and I know a girl that gets a lot of finacial help for her son who has ADHD, you should be able to claim another benefit. I will call you tom morning and explain what its called, could make £200-£300 difference a month.
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Betty Boop;640312 wrote: I wish you luck CG, it is a long hard struggle to get any sort of diagnosis these days. All the specialists have to say is that we shouldn't 'label' our children, but without the label there is no help available.

It's taken me from the time my son entered nursery until this year to get a diagnosis, even then they didn't want to give him a 'label', wanted to put him on sedatives instead.

Do you have meetings with the SENCO at school, has he been statemented at all?


We do yes but how do I get him statemented? How old is your son? They do have a thing about labels you're right, I don't like it either but I have read untold on the net from various sites about ADHD and it does have it. Do you hear me Social Services and all of you other useless twats that don't help? :wah: (Printing this out to show them Wednesday at a meeting) :wah:
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crazygal;640327 wrote: We do yes but how do I get him statemented? How old is your son? They do have a thing about labels you're right, I don't like it either but I have read untold on the net from various sites about ADHD and it does have it. Do you hear me Social Services and all of you other useless twats that don't help? :wah: (Printing this out to show them Wednesday at a meeting) :wah:


what time is the meeting on Wednesday?
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SuzyB;640326 wrote: Does she specialise in this??? I would call her tomorrow and insist on an appt, explain the circumstances and if need be say that you want to put a complaint and want a hearing against your borough's social services. They'll soon get teir ar5es into gear. They DO have funding for this, it was offered for Sam and I know a girl that gets a lot of finacial help for her son who has ADHD, you should be able to claim another benefit. I will call you tom morning and explain what its called, could make £200-£300 difference a month.


I have a friend whose son has Aspergers and she gets that extra money. Uses it to take him to places and the family on holidays. Makes a hell of a difference. I am calling tomorrow as early as possible before the SS find Ryan somewhere. The more I have to show them the better as I begged them not to let me change my mind about Fostering this time as I can't handle him anymore. :-3
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SuzyB;640330 wrote: what time is the meeting on Wednesday?


With his Psychologist who says there is no way he has ADHD, it's 11am, we see her once a month. Soon, whenever THAT is we will see her weekly, Ryan with her and me with someone else to talk with. She also said today when I called her desperate that she will get him another appointment with the psychiatrist.
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crazygal;640327 wrote: We do yes but how do I get him statemented? How old is your son? They do have a thing about labels you're right, I don't like it either but I have read untold on the net from various sites about ADHD and it does have it. Do you hear me Social Services and all of you other useless twats that don't help? :wah: (Printing this out to show them Wednesday at a meeting) :wah:


Psychologist, or school psychologist, children's team at social services, I am astounded that they have let this go on so long, dumb a55es, really pi55es me off the way they let people that are crying out for help just struggle on.
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crazygal;640333 wrote: With his Psychologist who says there is no way he has ADHD, it's 11am, we see her once a month. Soon, whenever THAT is we will see her weekly, Ryan with her and me with someone else to talk with. She also said today when I called her desperate that she will get him another appointment with the psychiatrist.


Right, call the solicitor or social services and say that you want to see how they determine a positive case of ADHD, print off a copy along with all the ones that you can find, in most test if you have over a certain number of yes' they will diagnose ADHD, along with the teachers reports, police reports and social workers I cant see how they are arguing with you.
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crazygal;640327 wrote: We do yes but how do I get him statemented? How old is your son? They do have a thing about labels you're right, I don't like it either but I have read untold on the net from various sites about ADHD and it does have it. Do you hear me Social Services and all of you other useless twats that don't help? :wah: (Printing this out to show them Wednesday at a meeting) :wah:




The SENCO at the school should be recognising that he has problems, she should start the statementing ball rolling.

Does he see an Educational Psychologist?

Speech and Language Therapist

Did he have any developmental issues as a baby, did he see a peadatrician?



What is happening with your funding for special needs up there? Is it down to the individual schools or the Education Authority?



Social services were of no help to me whatsoever, told me I was coping just fine on my own!
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Betty Boop;640344 wrote: The SENCO at the school should be recognising that he has problems, she should start the statementing ball rolling.

Does he see an Educational Psychologist?

Speech and Language Therapist

Did he have any developmental issues as a baby, did he see a peadatrician?



What is happening with your funding for special needs up there? Is it down to the individual schools or the Education Authority?



Social services were of no help to me whatsoever, told me I was coping just fine on my own!


I called them and told them I needed help and that i'd just smacked Sam 3 times and felt out of control, the duty social worker told me that because I had called them it meant I was aware what i'd done and Sam was in no danger, he said that someone would call me back, this was a Friday afternoon, I had a call on the Tuesday :mad:
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SuzyB;640350 wrote: I called them and told them I needed help and that i'd just smacked Sam 3 times and felt out of control, the duty social worker told me that because I had called them it meant I was aware what i'd done and that someone would call me back, this was a Fridaay afternoon, I had a call on the Tuesday :mad:


Great aren't they!! :rolleyes:



Hey CG do you have 'Homestart' in your area? You could have someone who has been through similar stuff to come and see you, help you out, admittedly not evening times but they could listen and give you practical advice, point you in the right direction to get to see the right people to help Ryan.
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SuzyB;640334 wrote: Psychologist, or school psychologist, children's team at social services, I am astounded that they have let this go on so long, dumb a55es, really pi55es me off the way they let people that are crying out for help just struggle on.


Just Child one. The next Case Conference where myself, Social Services, school nurse, Police, sometimes my parents, lol, and all of the other interferring useless twats come along isn't until 19th July. They will keep him on the Child Protection register again because I can't keep him in the house. I can't even have anyone stay over without them being police checked. Fecking rediculous.
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Pinky;640338 wrote: I know you're having a hard time CG, and it's ok to ask for help, everyone needs it at some point. I just have to say though that I hope you know how lucky you are to have kids...some of us never will. However hard things are, is it worth giving up?


Believe me I thank god every day (and I am not religious at all) for my children. I tried for years for Ryan, that makes it worse. I had treatment to have him and all of this hell since. Jade was an accident or so I thought but I think she was given to me to make up for all I have gone through. I still have PSOS and nobody knows how she appeared! She is my anti-depressant I call her. When I am very low or steaming mad I just talk with her or cuddle her and she makes me feel wonderful.
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SuzyB;640340 wrote: Right, call the solicitor or social services and say that you want to see how they determine a positive case of ADHD, print off a copy along with all the ones that you can find, in most test if you have over a certain number of yes' they will diagnose ADHD, along with the teachers reports, police reports and social workers I cant see how they are arguing with you.
I have no printer so am hoping that the school will print it all off for me. I emailed a lot of it to myself so I can just send the email to be printed then take that Wednesday and see then what she has to say.
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Process for ADHD Diagnosis

Only healthcare professionals can officially diagnose ADHD. One (or more) of the following types of healthcare professional could be involved in the process: -

Child psychiatrist

Child psychologist

Paediatrician

Psychiatric social worker

Educational psychologist

GP

There are four main steps which a child psychiatrist or paediatrician will use for diagnosing ADHD and which you can consider if you think your child may have ADHD.4

The healthcare professional will look for alarm signals: -

The child who significantly under-performs at school, despite having a normal intellect and no major specific learning disabilities

The child who has ADHD behaviour problems which are considerably worse than would be expected

They will exclude ADHD look-alikes, such as: -

The normal active pre-school child

Intellectual disability

Hearing impairment

Autism

Epilepsy

Depression

They may also use some objective pointers towards diagnosis: -

Questionnaires by parents and teachers e.g.

Conners Teacher and Parent Rating Scales

Achenbach Child Behaviour Checklists

Edelbrock Child Attention Problems Rating Scale

Barley and DuPaul ADHD Rating Scale

DSM-IV or ICD-10 criteria

Tests which measure the length and type of mental process (psychometric tests and profiles)

Tests of attention and persistence e.g.

The Paired Association Learning Test

Continuous Performance Test

Healthcare professionals have been trained to look at a detailed history of someone with suspected ADHD in order that they may recognise the smallest signs and symptoms. It is therefore important that they are consulted to ensure an accurate diagnosis.

ADHD can be exhibited in mild, moderate and severe forms. The mild and moderate forms may be responsive to psycho-social interventions (i.e. those not requiring medication)



I am off to bed now, but i will call you in the morning, please dont ever feel your alone, you have a 2nd family here that care for you, Ryan and Jade. This WILL get sorted. :-4
I am nobody..nobody is perfect...therefore I must be Perfect!





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Betty Boop;640344 wrote: The SENCO at the school should be recognising that he has problems, she should start the statementing ball rolling.

Does he see an Educational Psychologist?

Speech and Language Therapist

Did he have any developmental issues as a baby, did he see a peadatrician?



What is happening with your funding for special needs up there? Is it down to the individual schools or the Education Authority?



Social services were of no help to me whatsoever, told me I was coping just fine on my own!


Does he see an Educational Psychologist? No don't think he has ever.

Speech and Language Therapist? No, his speech was really good early on and still is. He speaks better than I do. People always comment on how lovely he speaks. :D

Did he have any developmental issues as a baby, did he see a peadatrician? No nothing, walked from the day he turned 11 months, developed well in every way.

What is happening with your funding for special needs up there? Is it down to the individual schools or the Education Authority? Schools I think going by my school, always trying to raise money for something.
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It's important to find out who controls the funding, if its the school then I'd seriously start looking at schools in your area who support children with difficulties.

If its the Local Education Authority then fire off a letter about how they are letting your son down and not providing him with the ecucation he deserves.

Get written reports from all specialists.

This psyhcologist says its not ADHD, then what does she think it is?

You should be able to get referrals through your GP, and if they won't listen change surgeries.

He really does need to be assessed by an Educational Psychologist, they are the ones with the clout down here.

And first and foremost, you as the parent are the one with the clout, they get fostered out CG and they don't get any extra help, I know my friend fosters, they chuck treats at them but they don't actually get to the bottom of the problem.
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SuzyB;640350 wrote: I called them and told them I needed help and that i'd just smacked Sam 3 times and felt out of control, the duty social worker told me that because I had called them it meant I was aware what i'd done and Sam was in no danger, he said that someone would call me back, this was a Friday afternoon, I had a call on the Tuesday :mad:


What ar$eholes! I called today and said that unless they want another Victoria Climbie (sp?)on their case then they had better help me. She said she can see I am crying out for help and do I want him accommodated (fostered) so I felt I had to say yet.

Told my mum and she said I should be really careful what I say as they could take Jade too if I tell them I've hit him or I feel like I could really hurt him which I did so worried about that now too.
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Betty Boop;640355 wrote: Great aren't they!! :rolleyes:



Hey CG do you have 'Homestart' in your area? You could have someone who has been through similar stuff to come and see you, help you out, admittedly not evening times but they could listen and give you practical advice, point you in the right direction to get to see the right people to help Ryan.


Thanks, I had heard about them, just googled them, worth giving them a call I think. :)
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Dore results

TEST RESULTS FOR RYAN FULLER



THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO COMPLETE THE DORE ON-LINE QUICK AD/HD SCREENING QUESTIONNAIRE.





From the answers you have supplied for Ryan , we have assessed the probability for attention and hyperactivity/impulsivity tendencies as follows:





ATTENTION





Ryan has scored 2.4 which indicates that there is a HIGH PROBABILITY of an attention disorder





HYPERACTIVITY/IMPULSIVITY





Ryan has scored 2.6 which indicates that there is a HIGH PROBABILITY of a hyperactivity/impulsivity disorder







*RYAN HAS A COMBINED TYPE AD/HD WHERE BOTH ATTENTION AND HYPERACTIVITY/IMPULSIVITY SYMPTOMS ARE PRESENT
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crazygal;640371 wrote: Does he see an Educational Psychologist? No don't think he has ever.



Speech and Language Therapist? No, his speech was really good early on and still is. He speaks better than I do. People always comment on how lovely he speaks. :D



Did he have any developmental issues as a baby, did he see a peadatrician? No nothing, walked from the day he turned 11 months, developed well in every way.



What is happening with your funding for special needs up there? Is it down to the individual schools or the Education Authority? Schools I think going by my school, always trying to raise money for something.


Speech and Language also covers his understanding of language, things like do you only give him one instruction at a time? Does he need time to stop and think of answers to your questions?



Ask someone at school where the funding comes from, its important so you know who to demand action from.



At my sons school (he's 10 next month) the PTA have provided him with a laptop. before that he had his own computer, he has a special chair to sit on as he has poor muscle tone. This is on top of any funding that came from the ecucation authority. A good school will fight alongside you to get him the help he needs.
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Common characteristics of an ADHD child include the following:

difficulty sustaining attention

is easily distracted

often does not seem to listen

often does not complete activities

loses things

often interrupts or intrudes on others

has difficulty awaiting turn in groups

often blurts out answers to questions

often engages in physically dangerous activities

without considering the consequences

Talks excessively

has difficulty playing quietly

has difficulty remaining seated

often fidgets or squirms in seat

difficulty following instructions

He has the bold ones.

ADHD or ADD is likely present if more than 8 of the above conditions are present.

Try not to be dismayed…people with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder also have incredibly wonderful attributes. An ADHD child or adult might not be able to focus on one thing at a time but are often very good at juggling a couple of larger tasks all at once. People with ADHD are typically sensitive, intuitive, highly creative and intelligent (despite what the standardized test scores say) because they look at the world differently than the norm. Attention Deficit Disorder and ADHD can be a gift, if managed well. The task is to find ways to manage the negative ADD and ADHD symptoms of Attention Deficit that will allow the positive attributes of ADD and ADHD to shine through .

So true in Ryan.

Oh but he doesn't have it does he 'professionals' :rolleyes:
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Betty Boop;640389 wrote: Speech and Language also covers his understanding of language, things like do you only give him one instruction at a time? Does he need time to stop and think of answers to your questions?



Ask someone at school where the funding comes from, its important so you know who to demand action from.



At my sons school (he's 10 next month) the PTA have provided him with a laptop. before that he had his own computer, he has a special chair to sit on as he has poor muscle tone. This is on top of any funding that came from the ecucation authority. A good school will fight alongside you to get him the help he needs.


Yes and yes to your questions. That makes me feel awful as I prompt him to hurry up as he's not answering me but thinking about it. Learnt so much here tonight you wouldn't believe!
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crazygal;640382 wrote: Thanks, I had heard about them, just googled them, worth giving them a call I think. :)


I'm a volunteer for them down here, we're all police checked before we can start and we are there to support you the Mum, try them!! :-6
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crazygal;640394 wrote: Yes and yes to your questions. That makes me feel awful as I prompt him to hurry up as he's not answering me but thinking about it. Learnt so much here tonight you wouldn't believe!


Does he rock?

Wave his hands around?

Have something constantly in his mouth?

Does he make eye contact with you?

Do you feel he understands body language?
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This made me copy to show them!

ADD is a term used to describe a child or adolescent who has difficulty focusing and maintaining attention in academic and/or social situations. Children are sometimes labeled ADD or ADHD if they are very energetic and tend to be disruptive in the classroom or conversely if they are a very quiet child who sits at his/her desk staring out the window or doodling. A child who is chronically disorganized, has difficulty remembering, consistently loses things or waits until the last minute to complete homework or projects may also suffer from ADD. In any event, a consultation with an expert is recommended to obtain a proper diagnosis so that the child can be supported and treated or to perhaps to rule out other types of problems that may be causing these behaviors.



I wasn't disruptive, Ryan is. I was the one whose mum got called up the school all the time being told I was daydreaming and looking out of the window. I have it to I think. Good chance he had.

'chronically disorganized', that is so us both. 'waits until the last minute to complete homework or projects', both of us too.
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Betty Boop;640400 wrote: Does he rock?

Wave his hands around?

Have something constantly in his mouth?

Does he make eye contact with you?

Do you feel he understands body language?


Does he rock? No

Wave his hands around? No

Have something constantly in his mouth? No

Does he make eye contact with you? Yes

Do you feel he understands body language? Yes but not always.

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