ID Codes on Handgun Ammunition in California

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ID Codes on Handgun Ammunition in California

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Calif. AG Wants ID Codes on Handgun Ammo

Calif. Attorney General Pushes for Law Requiring Handgun Ammo to Carry Traceable Codes

The Associated Press

LOS ANGELES Oct. 7, 2004 California's attorney general said Thursday he's pushing for a law requiring handgun ammunition sold in the state to carry a microscopic code that would enable law enforcement to trace bullets back to the buyer.

Attorney General Bill Lockyer told The Associated Press after speaking at a gun violence conference in Los Angeles that he has spoken with state lawmakers about taking up a bill next year to create the system.

The statewide tracking system would catalog serial numbers on bullet casings and slugs in a database along with information about buyers, who would show identification when making a purchase.

"It's a good tool to fight gangs and other criminal activity," Lockyer said.

California would be the first state in the country to have such a system, said Randy Rossi, director of the Justice Department's firearms division.

Rossi said the system has vast potential based on recent field tests in which 200 engraved handgun bullets were fired at walls, car doors and gelatin designed to replicate human targets. Of the 181 bullets recovered, 180 had codes intact and readable.

Estimated costs to manufacturers would run a penny or less for each bullet, according to Rossi and Paul Curry, a representative of Ravensforge, a Seattle, Wash.-based company that has developed bullet etching technology.

The proposed system immediately drew skepticism from representatives of gun and ammunition manufacturers as well as gun owners.

"It's another proposal designed to make it more difficult for those who make ammunition and people who enjoy firearms," said Gary Mehalik, spokesman for the National Shooting Sports Foundation.

Officials were still determining how the system might affect ammunition dealers. Many of the 1,600 gun retail outlets already have the electronic equipment needed to record information about gun buyers.

However, thousands of stores that sell ammunition but not handguns might need new identification card scanning equipment, Rossi said.

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ID Codes on Handgun Ammunition in California

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CVX wrote: Calif. AG Wants ID Codes on Handgun Ammo

Calif. Attorney General Pushes for Law Requiring Handgun Ammo to Carry Traceable Codes

The Associated Press

LOS ANGELES Oct. 7, 2004 California's attorney general said Thursday he's pushing for a law requiring handgun ammunition sold in the state to carry a microscopic code that would enable law enforcement to trace bullets back to the buyer.

Attorney General Bill Lockyer told The Associated Press after speaking at a gun violence conference in Los Angeles that he has spoken with state lawmakers about taking up a bill next year to create the system.

The statewide tracking system would catalog serial numbers on bullet casings and slugs in a database along with information about buyers, who would show identification when making a purchase.

"It's a good tool to fight gangs and other criminal activity," Lockyer said.

California would be the first state in the country to have such a system, said Randy Rossi, director of the Justice Department's firearms division.

Rossi said the system has vast potential based on recent field tests in which 200 engraved handgun bullets were fired at walls, car doors and gelatin designed to replicate human targets. Of the 181 bullets recovered, 180 had codes intact and readable.

Estimated costs to manufacturers would run a penny or less for each bullet, according to Rossi and Paul Curry, a representative of Ravensforge, a Seattle, Wash.-based company that has developed bullet etching technology.

The proposed system immediately drew skepticism from representatives of gun and ammunition manufacturers as well as gun owners.

"It's another proposal designed to make it more difficult for those who make ammunition and people who enjoy firearms," said Gary Mehalik, spokesman for the National Shooting Sports Foundation.

Officials were still determining how the system might affect ammunition dealers. Many of the 1,600 gun retail outlets already have the electronic equipment needed to record information about gun buyers.

However, thousands of stores that sell ammunition but not handguns might need new identification card scanning equipment, Rossi said.


This will not stop a single gun killing. Why?

Simple.

You have to get the bullet out of dead body after the bullet has been shot out of a gun.

Plus how about fish weights, tire balances, scrap metal, and toy soldiers? I can melt any of these down and make a bullet. As a matter of fact that is what high volume shooters do, they find scrap metal, melt it at home, and make bullets.
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ID Codes on Handgun Ammunition in California

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bullets are removed at autopsy, not a problem. the really smart criminal (there's an oxymoron) will collect the casings. it simply creates a new black market, similar to filing serial numbers off hot guns. homemade ammo, reloads essentially, are notoriously unreliable, will stovepipe or fragment when fired from a semi. i won't even use reloads for target practice in my expensive weapons.

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