Immigration And The Unmentionable Question Of Ethnic Interests

[capt_buzzard]

We are about sick of immigrants from Asian and Mid Eastern countries coming into Europe. Most here already are living on our Social Security System. The breed like rabbits too. Its time they went back to their own countries

[john8pies]

I agree with the 2 above posts, and can only assume that governments have an open door policy in order to win votes from what will be the majority races/religions in the future?

[David813]

The xenophobia displayed here is staggering.

[anastrophe]

this article is full of gross logical, and biological, errors. this article, frankly, reads like a pamphleteer's clever way of saying "incest is best". it ignores the proven biological benefit of genetic diversity, that is, the mixing of 'foreign' genes, rather than too-similar genes. Hybrid-vigor is well understood, and the benefits are incontrovertible. inbreeding is also well understood, and the bringing forth of horrible genetic diseases is the the result. ever heard of tay-sachs disease? ever heard of *any* pecular diseases that spring forth from mixed marraiges? your answer is right there. people who are too genetically close are a *bad* match for breeding. people who are 'distant' genetically make for a stronger offspring. generally, generally, generally, of course - there are always exceptions. but in the main, ethnic purity is a fallacy. you want ethnically pure children? have a brother and sister marry. good luck with the future of the world.

[David813]

anastrophe wrote: this article is full of gross logical, and biological, errors. this article, frankly, reads like a pamphleteer's clever way of saying "incest is best". it ignores the proven biological benefit of genetic diversity, that is, the mixing of 'foreign' genes, rather than too-similar genes. Hybrid-vigor is well understood, and the benefits are incontrovertible. inbreeding is also well understood, and the bringing forth of horrible genetic diseases is the the result. ever heard of tay-sachs disease? ever heard of *any* pecular diseases that spring forth from mixed marraiges? your answer is right there. people who are too genetically close are a *bad* match for breeding. people who are 'distant' genetically make for a stronger offspring. generally, generally, generally, of course - there are always exceptions. but in the main, ethnic purity is a fallacy. you want ethnically pure children? have a brother and sister marry. good luck with the future of the world.And let us hope the likes of "Asian American" (If he's Asian I'm a Baptist minister) aren't among the leaders.

[capt_buzzard]

Paul, you don't live in Southern Ireland. We are fast becoming overcrowded and its not by the Irish. Chinese, Africans & East Europeans.We are to small a country.

[chonsigirl]

Since the first human inhabitants of the Americas are Native Americans, everyone after them are immigrants.

[TMC]

capt_buzzard wrote: We are about sick of immigrants from Asian and Mid Eastern countries coming into Europe. Most here already are living on our Social Security System. The breed like rabbits too. Its time they went back to their own countries


I expect the Irish had to endure this type of prejudice when they arrived in America.

[capt_buzzard]

TMC wrote: I expect the Irish had to endure this type of prejudice when they arrived in America.But they worked for their living in the US. Many of these guys coming here don't want to work.

[TMC]

capt_buzzard wrote: But they worked for their living in the US. Many of these guys coming here don't want to work.


Of course they want to work, and their prepared to do the **** jobs that no one else will do.

[capt_buzzard]

Oh not the Africans. They love to dress in style Man

[TMC]

capt_buzzard wrote: Oh not the Africans. They love to dress in style Man


And they don't like being kicked in the shins.

[Accountable]

capt_buzzard wrote: Oh not the Africans. They love to dress in style Man


WOW! I had always thought the US had cornered the bigotry market. How naive I've been. Of course the societies we came from would be as hateful, ignorant, selfish, and dispicable as the one we're trying to fix!

:yh_youkid The most impressive thing is that it appears that you believe the tripe you are spewing is actually worth the respect of a legitimate opinion!

The oceans just got alot smaller for me. :yh_ooooo

Thanks

[capt_buzzard]

I've nothing against African people.I even 2 friends who are from Nigeria and Chinese.They do an honest days work. Its the ones living on our Social Security,and refuse to work, is what I'm speaking about.

[Accountable]

capt_buzzard wrote: I've nothing against African people.I even 2 friends who are from Nigeria and Chinese.They do an honest days work. Its the ones living on our Social Security,and refuse to work, is what I'm speaking about.


Yeah, we use that "some of my best friends are black" line here, too. The point is, you apparently lump everybody into that negative stereotype until they prove themselves otherwise, rather than the other way round.

[giftfromGod]

Accountable wrote: Yeah, we use that "some of my best friends are black" line here, too. The point is, you apparently lump everybody into that negative stereotype until they prove themselves otherwise, rather than the other way round.
We need to remember that we all are immigrants. So, what is the real question or concern? Is it the social security system? Is it the fact that these individuals are breaking current law? Is it the security of our national, especially with 911? Each of these is topics within themselves. America is thought of as the land of opportunity or is this just a slogan?

Why are immigrants willing to risk life to come into this country? What can we do to offer them a better way while ensuring that current laws are not broken and more importantly that they will not become a steward of the state? This is the debate.

giftfromGod

[CVX]

Welcome To America - All Trespassers Will Be Rewarded

By Deanna Spingola

NewsWithViews.com

The traditional, original settlers of this country were the English, Scots, Welsh, Dutch and Germans. They resided in the thirteen original colonies. They fought for their independence, from Great Britain, in the Revolutionary War. With inspiration, they wrote the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution including the very important Bill of Rights. No, they were not perfect - some were slave owners which was an English institution. I might add that the Native Americans also had slaves. However, the imperfections of the founding fathers should not discredit the noble documents that they created anymore than Christians engaging in sin discredits the scriptures.



The original Northern and Western European settlers had a particular cultural and political background which included a limited government. Their experience with a king and the powerful elite in society compelled them to shape a government where the sovereign power was held by the people and not the state - a Republic. The country was English speaking and our founding fathers did not encourage unlimited immigration.



A little more than ten million immigrants came to the United States between 1830 and 1880. About nine million were from Northern Europe and over six hundred thousand were from Canada and Newfoundland. Indeed, unscrupulous individuals advertised and imported Chinese workers to depress American wages (shades of current circumstances) but not to fill jobs.



Our current national trespassing woes are by no means new or unexpected. They are overwhelmingly more visible because of the obvious devastating consequences. The continuing plot for globalization via unchecked immigration and amnesty was further implemented during Lyndon B. Johnson's Great Society Give-Away years. On 3 October 1965 the Hart-Celler Immigration Bill was signed into law after being railroaded through congress by Lyndon Johnson and Edward M. Kennedy. This law totally destroyed the 1921 pro-American national origins quota system and currently functions as the foundation for our unenforced immigration laws.



The pro-American 1921 law based their allotted immigration slots according to the immigrant's birth country. Seventy percent of these immigration slots were allotted to residents of the United Kingdom, Ireland and Germany. A small number of visas were available to individuals born in Italy, Greece, Poland, Portugal, and other areas of eastern and southern Europe. The 1965 bill abolished the nationality factor putting all nations, third world or industrialized, on an equal status for immigration to the United States.



Edward M. Kennedy, the Senate immigration subcommittee chairman, confidently assured the nation and his fellow compliant congressmen that:



"First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. The bill will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think."



"The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs." (U.S. Senate, Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization of the Committee on the Judiciary, Washington, D.C., Feb. 10, 1965. pp. 1-3.)



I find Kennedy's use of the word "flood" rather ironic given his infamous unprosecuted escapade turned tragedy at Chappaquiddick in 1969. Is it just me or do you find it interesting that Kennedy is both a lawmaker and a lawbreaker but is not real big on negative consequences? This apparently applies to himself, family, friends and trespassers to America who speed our descent into one world government. Apparently selective prosecution is in play here? Perhaps if Martha Stewart had made a different career choice she would have been spared jail time. With her success strategy and penchant for perfection and style she surely would have been victorious had she run for office.



Referring to the 1965 Immigration Reform Bill, Lyndon b. Johnson said: "This bill we sign today is not a revolutionary bill. It does not affect the lives of millions. It will not restructure the shape of our daily lives." The Great Society President was really the diminishing society snake oil pitchman.



There was some very wise but unheeded opposition to the 1965 bill. Myra C. Hacker, Vice President of the New Jersey Coalition, testified at a Senate Immigration subcommittee hearing:



"In light of our 5 percent unemployment rate, our worries over the so called population explosion, and our menacingly mounting welfare costs, are we prepared to embrace so great a horde of the world's unfortunates? At the very least, the hidden mathematics of the bill should be made clear to the public so that they may tell their Congressmen how they feel about providing jobs, schools, homes, security against want, citizen education, and a brotherly welcome for an indeterminately enormous number of aliens from underprivileged lands."



"We should remember that people accustomed to such marginal existence in their own land will tend to live fully here, to hoard our bounteous minimum wages and our humanitarian welfare handoutslower our wage and living standards, disrupt our cultural patterns."



"Whatever may be our benevolent intent toward many people, the bill fails to give due consideration to the economic needs, the cultural traditions, and the public sentiment of the citizens of the United States." (U.S. Senate, Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization of the committee on the Judiciary, Washington, D.C., 10 Feb 1965, pp. 681-687



Apparently, no one listened to Myra. Individuals often tend to compartmentalize specific occurrences under each administration. We refer to particular periods of time and presidents such as Roosevelt's "New Deal" or Johnson's "Great Society". Reality strongly suggests that each administration, regardless of party, pursues the same serialized socialism towards a one world agenda. To obtain a concise picture of what is occurring, we must not consider presidents or political parties and their consecutive dramatic performances in Washington. The legislation that the socialistic minded politicians fail to accomplish during one party's tenure will be completed when the so-called alternate party takes control. Accordingly, like every other anti-American bill, the politicians stated repeatedly that the law would not create a large increase in the number of newcomers nor would it become a conduit for globalizing immigration. Yet, this is exactly what it was designed to do over time. Who needs a bomb when we have the subtle, gradual onslaught of our role-playing politicians?



This deceptive law was designed and resulted in a wave of millions of immigrants, including trespassers, who arrived from the third world countries of Asia and Latin America. Unlike individuals coming from Europe, these individuals typically lacked the equivalent education level of the average American. In addition they required more social services - paid for by the American taxpayer through plundering politicians and their efforts to redistribute the wealth. Europeans were not motivated to emigrate because their countries were more modern and industrialized.



From 1901 to 1920 the percent of Latin American immigrants comprised about three percent. The percent of Europeans during that same time period was eighty-eight percent. Yet, from 1980 to 1993 Latin American immigrants had risen to forty-three percent and Europeans were down to thirteen percent. These Latin American immigrants were more than twice as likely not to have finished high school compared to native born Americans. This obviously had economic consequences as well as political ramifications. The conspiring elite could change the complete economic and political culture by modification of one seemingly insignificant law while making themselves appear sympathetic to the plight of the poverty stricken and downtrodden. Their sympathy is a sham as evidenced by their attempts to restructure America into a third world nation. The poor are easier to control and typically lend their complete support to the political party that promises entitlements.



Immigration undermines our customs, culture, language and institutions. The enslaved should attempt to emulate the United States within their countries rather than invade and reshape the United States. But our politicians, like the unscrupulous who imported the Chinese, have thrown down the welcome mat - no questions asked - come one, come all.



Another law - the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) was supposedly passed in an attempt to control and deter illegal immigration by providing amnesty and temporary status to all illegal aliens who had lived in the United States continuously since before January 1, 1982. Those who received amnesty, about three million, were then able to become naturalized and bring other family members into the country. Rewarding crime rarely serves as a deterrent. Rather, it creates more crime - our astute Washington lawbreakers should surely recognize this commonsense cause and affect were it not for that ever present globalization agenda that so many of them embrace.



The 1990 Immigration Act (IMMACT) again modified and expanded the 1965 act by significantly increasing the total level of immigration to 700,000, and increasing available visas by 40 percent. Little by little, year by year, the economic consequences touch every family. Over the last 30 years, Congress has tripled legal immigration levels.



Trespassers should not have been granted amnesty in 1986 and they should not be granted amnesty now. Whether they call it amnesty or the "guest worker program" it is a farce and an open invitation to line up at the border. Rewarding crime increases crime. Call it what they will - it is globalization and an insidious method of bringing our country down to its economic knees. There was an attempt in 2000 to give amnesty to two million trespassers but it was surprisingly not supported by congress. However, by alternative strategy, they legalized additional categories of immigration (asylum) which resulted in approximately 700,000 immigrants.



With anchor babies, a result of the distortion of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, a trespasser may enter the U.S. just in time for delivery and then reap the rewards for her maternal efforts - thanks to the plundering of taxpayer dollars. Between 1997 and 2006, the projected total net cost to taxpayers for immigration will be $865.98 Billion. And thanks to the Supreme Court for their constant creative interpretations of the Constitution. Let's evaluate this scenario - we have the president promoting a guest worker program, congress promising and passing destructive legislation and the Supreme Court distorting the law of the land. This begs the question of who is actually representing the citizens of this country.



And presently the morally consistent Teddy Kennedy is at it again - making way for the trespassers to suck up our resources and further the goal of globalization. Democrat Edward M. Kennedy, along with fellow conspirator, Republican John McCain, is pushing for amnesty for twelve million trespassers with Senate Bill 1033. Apparently the rewards of complicity for McCain are far greater than the possibility of forced retirement due to voter retribution. But hey, doesn't it make you feel all warm and fuzzy to see the republikans and the demokrats working together?



The enemy is not the poverty stricken hordes at the border. Yes, they are trespassers and lawbreakers but they have been manipulated by the wicked in high places. Our government and their governments use them as political pawns in the game of globalization. Although we have been exposed to a brainwashing blitz of politically correct thinking/training it is not bigotry that motivates our wise rejection of unchecked immigration. It is self preservation and the preservation of our lifestyle that drives this fight against the adversary. The politicians who pretend to embrace diversity or multiculturalism are largely untouched by the mass migration that changes America's neighborhoods and jeopardizes our ability to take care of our families. The real enemies, those who swore to uphold the Constitution, are entrenched in the ivory towers in Washington and the absurdity is that apathetic and uninformed Americans have installed them there. It is amazing to me that these socialistic senators keep getting re-elected.



It is relatively simple to check congressional voting records regarding immigration. Those we have elected need to have their feet held to the fire, in a manner of speaking. If they are not abiding by their constitutional oath and demanding the enforcement of federal immigration laws then they should not continue to serve as lawmakers.



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Deanna Spingola has been a quilt designer and is the author of two books. She has traveled extensively teaching and lecturing on her unique methods. She has always been an avid reader of non-fiction works designed to educate rather than entertain. She is active in family history research and lectures on that topic. Currently she is the director of the local Family History Center. She has a great interest in politics and the direction of current government policies, particularly as they relate to the Constitution.



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[anastrophe]

just a couple of comments, and observations.

CVX wrote: Welcome To America - All Trespassers Will Be Rewarded

By Deanna Spingola

NewsWithViews.com



However, the imperfections of the founding fathers should not discredit the noble documents that they created anymore than Christians engaging in sin discredits the scriptures.

I find Kennedy's use of the word "flood" rather ironic given his infamous unprosecuted escapade turned tragedy at Chappaquiddick in 1969. Is it just me or do you find it interesting that Kennedy is both a lawmaker and a lawbreaker but is not real big on negative consequences?
i'm a bit amused by the juxtaposition of these points. apparently, our forefathers should not be discredited for being slave owners. but mr. kennedy should be discredited because of his similarly egregious flaws.



and no, i'm not a fan of mr. kennedy. he's a dinosaur.



[remainder deleted]



i've no problem with immigration, so long as _reasonable_ restrictions and tests are observed.



we are *all* immigrants to this continent. there's no evidence that the 'native' peoples of this continent evolved in a separate line from human origins in africa. hell, we're all immigrants the world over. this of course presumes one acknowledges evolution.



a simple axiom: Most People Want A Better Life. america, more than any other nation, offers that. people come here by the millions because they want a better life. they don't come here to go on government assistance (in the main, of course. there are always some people who have malicious motives, no matter what you're talking about). most immigrants are hard working - they sacrificed a lot to come here, often leaving behind family - they work hard because they want those efforts not to be wasted.

[turbonium]

chonsigirl wrote: Since the first human inhabitants of the Americas are Native Americans, everyone after them are immigrants.
You know, we may never know who the "first" inhabitants were in North America, let alone all over the world. No offense to Native Americans, but nobody can honestly say for certain if there were or were not other cultures which predated them. They were the first, original human inhabitants of North America to the European immigrants who arrived there. The discovery of Kennewick Man (approx.9300 years old) has thrown previously assumed theories into a spin. There are likely cultures that pre-date Kennewick Man, and so on, and may be discovered some day in the future.

Immigrants are just the "latest ones to arrive". Who were the very first to arrive or "inhabit" is a question akin to "Who, where, and what were the absolute very first people on Earth?"

[Raven]

And whats wrong with trying to escape an intolerable situation? Why has the word 'sanctuary' and mercy been driven from the language of governments? We live on one planet. As far as I can tell, there is still plenty of space to house the inhabitants of it. The racism and phobia being displayed here is breathtaking. How can any people claim the land as theirs? It existed long before any of the little parasites called 'man'! We all take from it. Very few give anything back.

[Jives]

Ahem...(Jives raises his hand) I have a solution.

1. Get rid of all national governments, and replace them with a centralized base of co-functioning Series Supercomputers, Give them autonomous decision-making ability, input all world resources and problems, rely on them for allocation. If there is a drought in Uganda, and a surplus of wheat in Russia, then the computers would ship the wheat to the famine.

If any country declares war, the Supercomputers could mobilize the resources of the entire planet to crush the rebellion...but that would be a last resort, to be used only if the "treatments" don't work. (See below)

2. Get rid of all national boundries, replace it with "The Family" in reference to all mankind. For example, "The Family's colonies on the moon have been very productive this year."

3. Genetically shape all of mankind to a common look. Preferably, a slightly Chinese-eyed, medium build, tan skin colored race. No more racism. this should be easy with the computing power and the understanding of genetics we have now. Unicomp (see below) could make all decisions concerning who could have children together. Population rates could also be controlled at the same time.

4. Test children for abilites constanty during growth, let the Supercomputer, let's call it "Unicomp" or "Uni" for short would decide the best use of their talents for the betterment of the Family and assign them to their specialties at adulthood. No more unempolyment.

5. Give each human being "treatments" once a month through an infusion disc placed on the arm. This infusion disc would pass chemicals directly through the skin. Included would be a birth control chemical, an exfolient to get rid of the need for shaving, and assorted neurological chemicals to keep the people "happy and satisfied" and control excess, irrational emotion.

6. Put a bar-coded or magnetic or even PAN - (personal area network) bracelet on each person's arm. To go anywhere, you must touch the bracelet to a scanner, and receive permission from the computer first. This prevents uneccessary waste of resources and energy. You could claim a vacation occasionally, but only if the computer could allocate the resources and could spare you from your job. All efforts would be directed towards the common goal.

7. As a back-up system, counselors with portable laptops would oversee all members of the family regularly to look for aberrant behavior. Children would be taught to immediately contact one of these counselors if they saw any unusual behavior.

8. All competitive sports will be removed, since competition itself would have to be removed. Why compete, when you are assigned everything you need for life? Instead, mandatory group exercises will be required for the entire population every morning.

9. Since old age is a drain on resources, and the investment of resources and materials in their existance no longer is less than the returns, then they must be eliminated. The average age of life should be terminated at around 72. The computer will determine the age of death, and it could increase as medicine gets better.

So there you have it...everything you are asking for. No worrries, permanent employment, no corporations, no racism, no war, no strife, no nationalism, no corruption. Nothing but the shining Family working towards mankind's future in the stars.

Like it?

[Raven]

You've been playing WAY too many video games, pops!:yh_laugh

[Accountable]

we Could give the contract to HAL-iburton!