Today, the Telegraph reported that "...All telecoms companies and internet service providers will be required by law to keep a record of every customer's personal communications, showing who they are contacting, when, where and which websites they are visiting."
Read the report here: Every phone call, email and internet click stored by 'state spying' databases - Telegraph
I oppose this type of unanimous overall type of surveillance. Once it is in place, there is nothing to prevent it from being used for other reasons, 'mission creep' as it's called.
This means that from hereonin, I will have virtually no privacy.
Big Brother is showing his face
Big Brother is showing his face
OpenMind;1261393 wrote: Today, the Telegraph reported that "...All telecoms companies and internet service providers will be required by law to keep a record of every customer's personal communications, showing who they are contacting, when, where and which websites they are visiting."
Read the report here: Every phone call, email and internet click stored by 'state spying' databases - Telegraph
I oppose this type of unanimous overall type of surveillance. Once it is in place, there is nothing to prevent it from being used for other reasons, 'mission creep' as it's called.
This means that from hereonin, I will have virtually no privacy.
This is just way out of line.
No would should have the right to your privacy.
Read the report here: Every phone call, email and internet click stored by 'state spying' databases - Telegraph
I oppose this type of unanimous overall type of surveillance. Once it is in place, there is nothing to prevent it from being used for other reasons, 'mission creep' as it's called.
This means that from hereonin, I will have virtually no privacy.
This is just way out of line.
No would should have the right to your privacy.
Life is just to short for drama.
Big Brother is showing his face
Our rights were ever just an illusion anyway. If you dont want anyone in your business, you have to go to extremes these days. Get rid of phones, computers, dig your own well, have your own energy source, such as solar and generators, grow your food, and dont drive anywhere.
hmmmmmmm....not a bad idea methinks! :-2
hmmmmmmm....not a bad idea methinks! :-2
~Quoth the Raven, Nevermore!~
Big Brother is showing his face
Not just online either..............
Army of 'citizen snoopers' recruited by council to spy on neighbours | Mail Online
Council accused of recruiting army of 2,000 'snoopers' - Telegraph
Daily Express | UK News :: Army of snoops recruited to spy on neighbours
They will be running tours from East Germany soon for people who miss living under the Stasi police state..............Maybe that's why Labour want so many Polish builders here.....they have plans for a really big wall appearing soon on a border near you..............:-5:-5
Army of 'citizen snoopers' recruited by council to spy on neighbours | Mail Online
Council accused of recruiting army of 2,000 'snoopers' - Telegraph
Daily Express | UK News :: Army of snoops recruited to spy on neighbours
They will be running tours from East Germany soon for people who miss living under the Stasi police state..............Maybe that's why Labour want so many Polish builders here.....they have plans for a really big wall appearing soon on a border near you..............:-5:-5
Big Brother is showing his face
Raven;1261536 wrote: Our rights were ever just an illusion anyway. If you dont want anyone in your business, you have to go to extremes these days. Get rid of phones, computers, dig your own well, have your own energy source, such as solar and generators, grow your food, and dont drive anywhere.
hmmmmmmm....not a bad idea methinks! :-2
Not a bad idea but very expensive.
My family and friends are spread far and wide. Snail mail is an option but no less vulnerable to this kind of surveillance.
NB. Book editing is already in place.
hmmmmmmm....not a bad idea methinks! :-2
Not a bad idea but very expensive.
My family and friends are spread far and wide. Snail mail is an option but no less vulnerable to this kind of surveillance.
NB. Book editing is already in place.
Big Brother is showing his face
I have mixed opinions on this, because everyone knows how this can lead to a controlled state were freedoms can be seriously jeopardized.
But then the other argument is that the web and communications are so advanced globally that there needs to be some way to protect people from the risks as well.
In the past, your long distance phone calls were recorded, if you call a Soviet country, do you not think that the authorities knew about it?
There is so much criminal activity on the web, violent porn, pedophiles, and now with the ‘war on terror’ so many other possibilities, there needs to be some way to track it.
In some way, it works like this, if you are not up to anything wrong, then what is there to worry about?
But then, it is easier to let freedom slip away from us that it is to fight to get it back.
So I don’t know, it is a double edge sword.
But then the other argument is that the web and communications are so advanced globally that there needs to be some way to protect people from the risks as well.
In the past, your long distance phone calls were recorded, if you call a Soviet country, do you not think that the authorities knew about it?
There is so much criminal activity on the web, violent porn, pedophiles, and now with the ‘war on terror’ so many other possibilities, there needs to be some way to track it.
In some way, it works like this, if you are not up to anything wrong, then what is there to worry about?
But then, it is easier to let freedom slip away from us that it is to fight to get it back.
So I don’t know, it is a double edge sword.
Big Brother is showing his face
Don't worry, if you want to take the government to court over this impingement on your civil rights you can now do so using the human rights act-unless of course all those right wingers who think it should be amended or done away with get their way along with their allies in the church who think giving human rights to homosexuals goes a bit too far for decency. Criminals and abominations are they human after all?
A-Z of legislation: Human Rights Act 1998 | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
A-Z of legislation: Human Rights Act 1998 | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
Big Brother is showing his face
mikeinie;1261571 wrote: I have mixed opinions on this, because everyone knows how this can lead to a controlled state were freedoms can be seriously jeopardized.
But then the other argument is that the web and communications are so advanced globally that there needs to be some way to protect people from the risks as well.
In the past, your long distance phone calls were recorded, if you call a Soviet country, do you not think that the authorities knew about it?
There is so much criminal activity on the web, violent porn, pedophiles, and now with the ‘war on terror’ so many other possibilities, there needs to be some way to track it.
In some way, it works like this, if you are not up to anything wrong, then what is there to worry about?
But then, it is easier to let freedom slip away from us that it is to fight to get it back.
So I don’t know, it is a double edge sword.
I tend to share your thoughts. A certain level of surveillance is certainly necessary but I think this overall surveillance of everybody is demeaning. Algorithms can be developed to focus on specific activities.
Irrespective of whether I am acting within the law or not, I don't want to be under this kind of surveillance.
But then the other argument is that the web and communications are so advanced globally that there needs to be some way to protect people from the risks as well.
In the past, your long distance phone calls were recorded, if you call a Soviet country, do you not think that the authorities knew about it?
There is so much criminal activity on the web, violent porn, pedophiles, and now with the ‘war on terror’ so many other possibilities, there needs to be some way to track it.
In some way, it works like this, if you are not up to anything wrong, then what is there to worry about?
But then, it is easier to let freedom slip away from us that it is to fight to get it back.
So I don’t know, it is a double edge sword.
I tend to share your thoughts. A certain level of surveillance is certainly necessary but I think this overall surveillance of everybody is demeaning. Algorithms can be developed to focus on specific activities.
Irrespective of whether I am acting within the law or not, I don't want to be under this kind of surveillance.
Big Brother is showing his face
With all the surveillance with cameras, directional mikes, and satellites which can read the small print on a cigarette packet ! I really think it is too late to do anything about 'big brother' don't you? But there will be moves afoot to find ways of overcoming the checking of emails, phone calls, mobile phones etc by those who wish to remain un-spyed upon - you can bet !
Over 20 years ago, whilst I was in business, I received some very interesting information concerning surveillance equipment, which was generally available (at a price) - mikes with transmitters incorporated inside three-pin ordinary electric wall plugs, where signals can be received up to 1 mile away and through walls, to a receiver and recording device! Clever little ball-point pens which also did the same. Parabolic mikes which could monitor conversations from 1/2 mile away through building walls etc. etc. So what the heck are they capable of now ????
Over 20 years ago, whilst I was in business, I received some very interesting information concerning surveillance equipment, which was generally available (at a price) - mikes with transmitters incorporated inside three-pin ordinary electric wall plugs, where signals can be received up to 1 mile away and through walls, to a receiver and recording device! Clever little ball-point pens which also did the same. Parabolic mikes which could monitor conversations from 1/2 mile away through building walls etc. etc. So what the heck are they capable of now ????
I'm a Saga-lout, growing old disgracefully
Big Brother is showing his face
G#Gill;1261576 wrote: With all the surveillance with cameras, directional mikes, and satellites which can read the small print on a cigarette packet ! I really think it is too late to do anything about 'big brother' don't you? But there will be moves afoot to find ways of overcoming the checking of emails, phone calls, mobile phones etc by those who wish to remain un-spyed upon - you can bet !
Over 20 years ago, whilst I was in business, I received some very interesting information concerning surveillance equipment, which was generally available (at a price) - mikes with transmitters incorporated inside three-pin ordinary electric wall plugs, where signals can be received up to 1 mile away and through walls, to a receiver and recording device! Clever little ball-point pens which also did the same. Parabolic mikes which could monitor conversations from 1/2 mile away through building walls etc. etc. So what the heck are they capable of now ????
Come to that, there's as much to block it. But I can't tax the nation to pay for it. (Internet tax being a new one on the way by all accounts.)
Over 20 years ago, whilst I was in business, I received some very interesting information concerning surveillance equipment, which was generally available (at a price) - mikes with transmitters incorporated inside three-pin ordinary electric wall plugs, where signals can be received up to 1 mile away and through walls, to a receiver and recording device! Clever little ball-point pens which also did the same. Parabolic mikes which could monitor conversations from 1/2 mile away through building walls etc. etc. So what the heck are they capable of now ????
Come to that, there's as much to block it. But I can't tax the nation to pay for it. (Internet tax being a new one on the way by all accounts.)