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sheryl_b
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"THREE young sisters are to be put up for adoption despite their mother having numerous complaints upheld against the county's social services department.

The girls arc now aged seven, five and three and their mother, who cannot be named for legal reasons, contacted social services in June 2003 because she could not cope with the oldest one's behaviour.

The case was to be referred to Children's and Adults' Menial Health Services but nothing happened and the mother called social services again in January 2004 after the girl assaulted one of her younger sisters.

But rather than receiving help, council officers turned up at her home and took the children away.

Their mother consented after being threatened that if she did not agree they would simply obtain a court order.

In May she withdrew her consent but the children were not returned and the case has been going through the courts since then with a final ruling last September that the girls should be handed over for adoption.

However, in the meantime their mother complained that it look loo long to organise contact after their removal, they were moved around several times without appropriate car seat restraints and one of the children was feverish mid lethargic during a contact visit.

She also said social services failed to keep her informed about a hospital visit, failed to inform her of changes to contact details and failed to arrange appropriate contact.

Of 12 complaints the mother registered, five were fully upheld and two partially upheld following an investigation. There was no finding on one issue.Since the investigation the mother has encountered further problems including a claim that one of the girls received bruising to her genital area which was unexplained.

She also claims she was told the oldest girl did not want to see her but this was incorrect and was disputed in court.

She said: "The judge has ruled that my children are to be taken away and I have been told there is little point in appealing but I don't see how social services can get away with this."

Does anyone agree with this??? I think its totally out of order
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Accountable
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Lesson learned: if they say they will just come back with a court order, tell them to drive safely. Stand your ground! Know your rights. Go to bureaucracies only as a desparate last resort.



If she truly feels she is being wronged, fight. Call every paper, radio station, TV station, and politician.
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Sheryl
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Some social service agents have the God complex. MY mom is a lab manager at the local hospital she has butted heads with our local agency seceral times. They have on more than one occasion walked into her office demanding records on a child. My mom asks if they have court order, they say no, she tells them to come back with an order. They then procede to lecture my mom on who they are and the power they have. My mom has been a manager so long now she just lets them rant, then again tells them to come back later with the proper forms to obtain medical records.

The lady in the story above needs to find her a new attorny who's willing to against the system and right the wrongs that have been made.
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HelloGal
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Humm well I don't know the specifics in the case I am a foster mom myself and each state and each district in the state can vary in degrees they will take to protect or not protect a child. I think its very sad that family reunification was not met but why did the mom sign them into care is what I don't get. But if she did not follow case plan then she is at fault. I also know too if she did and she documented everything she can present that to the judge. Also she should of been presented a lawyer as well. Not all social workers are bad and some really try hard to protect the children at hand.
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HelloGal wrote: Humm well I don't know the specifics in the case I am a foster mom myself and each state and each district in the state can vary in degrees they will take to protect or not protect a child. I think its very sad that family reunification was not met but why did the mom sign them into care is what I don't get. But if she did not follow case plan then she is at fault. I also know too if she did and she documented everything she can present that to the judge. Also she should of been presented a lawyer as well. Not all social workers are bad and some really try hard to protect the children at hand.
How many in your view are overzealous and are too quick to "protect" the children? Is it even possible to be overzealous?
HelloGal
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Of all the children I know who entered care in my county they really needed to be in Care of course I do not know the specifics for each case. I agree some are overzealous yes that has happened. But in our state and many others they have revamped the system to a point it works for the parents more then anyone. Example a foster child never met her birth father, mother abandoned her and this was not a one time new mom incedint were talking 5th child same pattern. Both were notified several times at court and yet the courts still gave them month after month to get their act together it took the child being nearly 20 months old by this time not knowing who her parents were to have termination of parental rights. If the birth father had persued it he could have very well got the child and even though the foster parents raised the child since 6 months he still had rights to the child. How divestating for a 20 month old child to leave the only home she knew. That is how our state works they have 19 months to basicly mess up and then get their child back. Of course they must go follow all rules first and go through a process. I see children in our state alone who are neglected, abused and things don't get taken care of either. Because the foster system is so over crowded and their are not enough foster parents to take care of the children. So many go with out. I have seen these things for myself.
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Having been a foster child myself and knowing loads of them, I'd rather see the system err for the bio-dad like they did. Of course, common sense would do wonders, but that's illegal in most bureaucracies. :thinking:
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Unfortunately, quite a few years back. I had to have dealings with the Social services, due to a mallicious phone call they had received. It took me ages to convince them that things were OK, and that my kids were being looked after in the proper manner. The way they went about things was extremely appaling to say the least. My (ex) wife and myself actually joined a protest group, of people who had been wronged by the local Social services. I actually wrote a poem about them, and it was published in the groups newsletter. I would like to reproduce it here for you to read.



The Social Worker

I am a Social Worker. My name is Cedric Stead

I drive a Citroen 2CV, painted, shiny red

I have my “Save the Wales” sticker. And my “NO” to Nuclear Power.

You can read my screen, as I go past, at 40 miles per hour.

You better watch out, if I’m about.

In your family, I’ll get my hooks.

Because I know all there is to know.

I’ve studied all the books.

You may think I’m too young, to do this job.

That I know nothing about “real” life.

But let me tell you, I can soon,

Turn Husband against wife.

I can take away your children.

On a pretext, or a ruse.

Then take them to a hospital.

And commit “sexual abuse”

Mistakes have been made in the past.

That fact is understood.

But I’m too clever to make mistakes.

I’m too busy “looking good.”

Should I have to go into a court

I’ll speak a pack of lies.

The Judges all believe my “truth”

And ignore the mothers cries.

I’ll have your kids adopted.

You haven’t got a chance.

So when I start to call the tune.

You better learn to dance.

So when I pull up, outside your house.

In my red shiny car.

Remember the story of “Big Brother.

Because that’s who we are.
tazlady
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Post by tazlady »

My sister-in-law does drugs and has my niece living with her who is 2, and social services told me that they would be taking almost every child out of their house if it was about drug use of their parents, until she gets hit there was nothing they would do!
Debra
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Post by Debra »

In my opinion and also feel that Social Services think they own people's children. Social Services is crooked as a politician. I know I dealt with them before.

Back inin 1999. My son went to school and came home with a rub mark on his neck. He didn't have it when he left to go to school but came home with it. The teacher knew that my son had autism so she used that to her advantage to cover what she did to my son and called social services on me. Well I get a knock on my door with CID , Police department and Social Services. My husband just came home right afterwards. They took all three of my children away of something that his teacher done to him and blamed me for. The next day, I asked the bus driver and the escort did they see any bruises on Allen when he got on the bus and they said no. They said if they did, they would have reported and everybody will be at my apt. sooner. They did say he did have that mark on his neck after school when he got on the bus.

It is weird though. I got my daughter back in October cause she was a small baby. I didn't get my two boys back til right before Christmas of 99. That's when our lawyer proved that the teacher abused my son and the teacher finally confuss. She was fired and was sent to jail. And for the social worker.. Let's say she don't have a job anymore either. I also sued Social Services.

I don't like social services... at all. I don't trust them more than I can throw them and that I can't throw.
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