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Thousands sign petition for royal family to pay for Buckingham Palace repairs themselves | Metro News

Good grief could the peaants be rovolting?

In see the daily mail are pushing for nigel farage to be a lord. Good idea an unelected drunken muppet that has wrecked our country would be fine example up there with all the other sell outs.
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gmc;1502815 wrote: Thousands sign petition for royal family to pay for Buckingham Palace repairs themselves | Metro News

Good grief could the peaants be rovolting?

In see the daily mail are pushing for nigel farage to be a lord. Good idea an unelected drunken muppet that has wrecked our country would be fine example up there with all the other sell outs.


Have none of them seen where the money is to come from?

It actually mentions the Sovereign Grant in the article but it does not spell out what the grant is and why the Queen receives it.

We, the people, magnanimously allow the Queen 15% of the income from the Crown Estates - estates that the monarchy owned and signed over to the country in return for the Civil List which was replaced by the Sovereign Grant. The government are proposing to temporarily increase this percentage to 25% to cover the monies needed for the repairs (horror of horrors, a 66% increase).

That's without going into the question of how much the monarchy earn for the country by their very existence, by the work they do and, if it comes down to that, by opening the royal palaces up to the public - Buck Pal would not be a very good draw for the tourists if it flooded, burnt down or just collapsed into a heap of rouble.
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Bryn Mawr;1502817 wrote: Have none of them seen where the money is to come from?

It actually mentions the Sovereign Grant in the article but it does not spell out what the grant is and why the Queen receives it.

We, the people, magnanimously allow the Queen 15% of the income from the Crown Estates - estates that the monarchy owned and signed over to the country in return for the Civil List which was replaced by the Sovereign Grant. The government are proposing to temporarily increase this percentage to 25% to cover the monies needed for the repairs (horror of horrors, a 66% increase).

That's without going into the question of how much the monarchy earn for the country by their very existence, by the work they do and, if it comes down to that, by opening the royal palaces up to the public - Buck Pal would not be a very good draw for the tourists if it flooded, burnt down or just collapsed into a heap of rouble.


We the people were conquered by a bunch of norman thugs who carved up the cou8ntry amongst them. All land ownership laws stem from that theft that also includes the resdources under our feet. The crown estates are the result of theft so please let's stop this delusion that they magnanimously let us poor people her subjects keep the income from the land and resources her ancestors stole in the first place and whose only claim to said income is being the descendants of warlords.
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gmc;1502831 wrote: We the people were conquered by a bunch of norman thugs who carved up the cou8ntry amongst them. All land ownership laws stem from that theft that also includes the resdources under our feet. The crown estates are the result of theft so please let's stop this delusion that they magnanimously let us poor people her subjects keep the income from the land and resources her ancestors stole in the first place and whose only claim to said income is being the descendants of warlords.


Not true. We, the people, kicked out the descendants of the Norman thugs who carved up the country - went so far as to chop the head off one of them. The upright religious bastard who was given the job of ruling us, and his brood that tried to follow him were so bad that we, the people, willingly gave everything back to the monarchy - it was not theft, it was our gift.
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Bryn Mawr;1502833 wrote: Not true. We, the people, kicked out the descendants of the Norman thugs who carved up the country - went so far as to chop the head off one of them. The upright religious bastard who was given the job of ruling us, and his brood that tried to follow him were so bad that we, the people, willingly gave everything back to the monarchy - it was not theft, it was our gift.


No we the people were shafted by the bankers and the wealthy. No change there then.

A Declaration from the Poor oppressed People of England, directed to all that call themselves, or are called Lords of Manors

We whose narnes are subscribed, do in the name of all the poor oppressed people in England, declare unto you, that call your selves lords of Manors, and Lords of the Land, That in regard the King of Righteousness, our Maker, hath inlightened our hearts so far, as to see, That the earth was not made purposely for you, to be Lords of it, and we to be your Slaves, Servants, and Beggers; but it was made to be a common Livelihood to all, without respect of persons: And that your buying and selling of Land, and the Fruits of it, one to another, is The cursed thing, and was brought in by War; which hath, and still does establish murder, and theft, In the hands of some branches of Mankinde over others, which is the greatest outward burden, and unrighteous power, that the Creation groans under: For the power of inclosing Land, and owning Propriety, was brought into the Creation by your Ancestors by the Sword; which first did murther their fellow Creatures, Men, and after plunder or steal away their Land, and left this Land successively to you, their Children. And therefore, though you did not kill or theeve, yet you hold that cursed thing in your hand, by the power of the Sword; and so you justifie the wicked deeds of your Fathers; and that sin of your Fathers, shall be visited upon the Head of you, and your Children, to the third and fourth Generation, and longer too, till your bloody and theeving power be rooted out of the Land.
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gmc;1502849 wrote: No we the people were shafted by the bankers and the wealthy. No change there then.

A Declaration from the Poor oppressed People of England, directed to all that call themselves, or are called Lords of Manors


Not relevant, the restoration happened eleven years after that - we, the people, had changed our collective minds.
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That Magna Carta has a lot to answer for eh? Lol
The 'radical' left just wants everyone to have food, shelter, healthcare, education and a living wage. Man that's radical!....ooooohhhh Scary!
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Bryn Mawr;1502851 wrote: Not relevant, the restoration happened eleven years after that - we, the people, had changed our collective minds.


No we hadn't it's just the puritans were so awful anything seemed better. we were shafted by the landed gentry and the bankers who ganged up on the levellers and anyone else that dared suggest there was something wrong with so much being owned by so few and with the rich taking what they wanted. The glorious revolution and bill of rights was another stitch up all land ownership laws min the uk stem from the feudal system which was based on the strong taking what they wantedf. All that happened was they went through parliament and got laws passed to let them keep what they had stolen, enclose common land and any respources under the earth beloinged to the crown and there was nothing ordinary people could do about it only the main players changed now it's corpoprations rather than individuals. It still goes on - go and ask someone in lancashire what they think about fracking and why do their objections count for nothing. Our land laws are quite literally feudal in origion.

who decided the crown estates owns all that they do it sure as hell wasn't anyone living there.
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