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Cause for resignation don't you think? Would be bad enough if it was true but it was a complete and utter fabrication - something that both the fench ambassador and nicola sturgeon both insist was not dicussed yet despite that the bbc and the press reported it as if the story was true mand the leak embarrassing

The Big Lie: Alistair Carmichael admits Sturgeon memo leak | News | The National

Saw her being interviewed by a very hostile sky news presenter who could not seem tio grasp that it was completely untrue. If he had any integrity he would resign his seat.

Does Question Time have a problem with the SNP? | Politics | The National
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gmc;1479631 wrote: Cause for resignation don't you think? Would be bad enough if it was true but it was a complete and utter fabrication - something that both the fench ambassador and nicola sturgeon both insist was not dicussed yet despite that the bbc and the press reported it as if the story was true mand the leak embarrassing

The Big Lie: Alistair Carmichael admits Sturgeon memo leak | News | The National

Saw her being interviewed by a very hostile sky news presenter who could not seem tio grasp that it was completely untrue. If he had any integrity he would resign his seat.

Does Question Time have a problem with the SNP? | Politics | The National
Well, that "leak" certainly backfired, with a vengeance!!

Question time has a problem just understanding how to spell FAIR, or UNBIASED.... and not for the first time!
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In the pre referendum special edition question time they had nigel farage and george galloway, why?

https://edinburgheye.wordpress.com/2013 ... -complain/

BBC coverage was noticeably biased, nick robinson the political editor edited a question with alex salmond to give the impression he refused to answer, in fact he gave an eight minute answer and unfortunetaely for robinson the whole thing appeared on yoiu tube. The result was demonstration outside the bbc that had it happened in london would have been headline news.

Scottish independence: Crowd protests against 'BBC bias' - BBC News

people wonder why the snp are getting more support?
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gmc;1479646 wrote: In the pre referendum special edition question time they had nigel farage and george galloway, why?

https://edinburgheye.wordpress.com/2013 ... -complain/

BBC coverage was noticeably biased, nick robinson the political editor edited a question with alex salmond to give the impression he refused to answer, in fact he gave an eight minute answer and unfortunetaely for robinson the whole thing appeared on yoiu tube. The result was demonstration outside the bbc that had it happened in london would have been headline news.

Scottish independence: Crowd protests against 'BBC bias' - BBC News

people wonder why the snp are getting more support?


Surprise, surprise! BBC bias again....haven't the BBC worked out that these things "come home to roost" yet? And if it's Westminster behind all this BBC malarkey, just shows how "noble and honourable" they really are. So NOT surprised at the popularity of the SNP, or at the growing "Take us with you, Scotland!" campaign. As you say, nearly all the blame for the impending collapse of the Union can be laid squarely at the feet of successive defective English governments. What a damning endictment for modern tawdry (tory?) English MP's, to let an old and honourable Union such as ours wither and die.
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Smaug;1479657 wrote: Surprise, surprise! BBC bias again....haven't the BBC worked out that these things "come home to roost" yet? And if it's Westminster behind all this BBC malarkey, just shows how "noble and honourable" they really are. So NOT surprised at the popularity of the SNP, or at the growing "Take us with you, Scotland!" campaign. As you say, nearly all the blame for the impending collapse of the Union can be laid squarely at the feet of successive defective English governments. What a damning endictment for modern tawdry (tory?) English MP's, to let an old and honourable Union such as ours wither and die.


Not the english government there is no such thing:-5:-5:-5 just the complete indifference shown by the westminster apparatchiks not just to scotland but also to the north of england - remember eddie george and his comment?

unemployment in the north was a price worth paying to help the south. .




BBC News | The Economy | Governor tries to douse north's fire

Besides labouir are also to blame - who brought in the private finance initiative for the nhs what nationality was gordon brown and alisdair darling?

Monetarist economics don't work it's about time we had common sense back. It's like arguing you can make an engine work by controlling the amount of oil
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Alistair Carmichael's old words come back to haunt him as pressure grows to quit | News | The National

PRESSURE continued to mount on shamed former Scottish Secretary Alistair Carmichael to resign as an MP last night after a newspaper column from 2010 came to light in which he stressed the need for members of Parliament to “tell the truth”.


Mr Carmichael’s majority plummeted from nearly 10,000 to just over 800, and there appears to be a very strong reaction in Orkney and Shetland against him this weekend. The people in his constituency deserve to know the whole truth, and in my view would be best served by Mr Carmichael standing down.”


Will the last libdem in scotland turn out the lights when they leave.
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Not the english government there is no such thing

I define it as English simply because most of the MP's in Westminster are English. As for unemployment "up North" being acceptable if it boosts the South, how shortsighted!! Like robbing Peter to pay Paul.....I think that most MP's suffer from "foot and mouth disease", only opening their mouths to change feet! At least you CAN tell when they're lying; their lips move. Yes, it's an old 'un, but still true, I fear.:(
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I think carmichael's actions reflect something about the political culture within which he was working - one where lying and deceit are acceptable behaviours to achieve an end. If you're a weak individual it's easy to be sucked in to doing things you would ordinarily regard a despicable. Can't see him lasting long as an MP.

It's like with the bankers if being greedy and dishonest is what get you to the top it's takes considerable strength of character to stand up to those around you and not do it. If everybody aroiund you is racist or prejuduced to turn round and say no takes considerable strength of character.
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gmc;1479676 wrote: I think carmichael's actions reflect something about the political culture within which he was working - one where lying and deceit are acceptable behaviours to achieve an end. If you're a weak individual it's easy to be sucked in to doing things you would ordinarily regard a despicable. Can't see him lasting long as an MP.

It's like with the bankers if being greedy and dishonest is what get you to the top it's takes considerable strength of character to stand up to those around you and not do it. If everybody aroiund you is racist or prejuduced to turn round and say no takes considerable strength of character.


Peer pressure is a difficult thing to resist, but "when the end justifies the means" in peoples minds, then you know things 'aint good. Sure, a certain amount of this always goes on with individuals, but when it becomes "wholesale", trouble is just around the corner, methinks!
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Lib Dem grandee defends Alistair Carmichael over Whitehall leak scandal | Daily Mail Online

All politicians lie, the former Liberal Democrats deputy leader has said as he defended Alistair Carmichael’s conduct over a leaked memo.

Sir Malcolm Bruce said if every politician who twisted the truth was made to quit there would be very few politicians left in Westminster.


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Prosecute those that make the leaks. It is totally illegal & subject to prosecution under terms of the Official Secrets Act. It is tantamount to spying.
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