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I realized that there's really no 'right' place for this on ForumGarden. there's no 'philosophy' forum, and these fall under philosophy, after a fashion - not specifically religion. but anyway.



aphorisms are 'nuggets of wisdom'. typically brief, pithy little bits of information pertaining to the nature of existence. they can be quite broad ranging. i love 'em - maybe it's due to my short attention span!



so, herewith, a few aphorisms that strike my fancy. just for the hell of it.



Those who are ready to praise others usually take praise from others with a grain of salt. On the other hand, those who praise others reluctantly accept praise from others at its face value. Thus the less magnanimous a soul, the more readily does it succumb to flattery.

-Eric Hoffer







My reaction to porno films is as follows: After the first ten minutes, I want to go home and screw. After the first twenty minutes, I never want to screw again as long as I live.

-Erica Jong







Don't let me catch anyone talking about the Universe in my department.

-Ernest Rutherford







When taking a new job, beware of those who are too friendly too soon.

-Joel R. Stegall







There is sublime thieving in all giving. Someone gives us all he has and we are his.

-Eric Hoffer







Bigamy is having one wife too many. Monogamy is the same.

-Oscar Wilde







Cloquet hated reality but realized it was still the only place to get a good steak.

-Woody Allen







If you are lost in the woods, always travel downstream. If you are lost in the astral plane, always travel toward the light.

-Pat Morningstar







Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength.

-Eric Hoffer







I was once thrown out of a mental hospital for depressing the other patients.

-Oscar Levant







All know that the drop merges into the ocean, but few know that the ocean merges into the drop.

-Kabir







Tall candidates with short names get elected twice as often as short candidates with long names.

-Tom Wilbur







As a rule of thumb, it's better to show up for an appointment ten minutes early but a day late, than an hour late on the right day.

-Alex Fraser







To have a grievance is to have a purpose in life. A grievance can almost serve as a substitute for hope; and it not infrequently happens that those who hunger for hope give their allegiance to him who offers them a grievance.

-Eric Hoffer

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You like Eric Hoffer, dontcha?
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Lon wrote: You like Eric Hoffer, dontcha?
yep, my favorite. the man, his life, and his utterances, are fascinating.
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Really nice. Can you elaborate on the one by Kabir?
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Suresh Gupta wrote: Really nice. Can you elaborate on the one by Kabir?the quote is all i know - it's from a book i have, suitably titled zen to go, bite sized bits of wisdom from the East and the West - from the Buddha to Yogi Berra.



a lovely little book. here are a few more specifically from that title:











When you are at sea, keep clear of the land.

-Publilius Syrus







A person who says, "I'm enlightened" probably isn't.

-Baba Ram Dass





Apart from the known and the unknown, what else is there?

-Harold Pinter





It's the nothing that makes us something, it's what we miss that hits the mark.

-7-Up jingle





Clay is molded to make a vessel, but the utility of the vessel lies in the space where there is nothing...Thus, taking advantage of what is, we recognize the utility of what is not.

-Lao Tzu





I believe in God, only I spell it Nature.

-Frank Lloyd Wright





All composite things decay; work out your salvation with diligence.

-The Buddha





What a miserable thing life is: you're living in clover, only the clover isn't good enough.

-Bertolt Brecht





Tom Seaver: Hey, Yogi, what time is it?

Yogi Berra: You mean now?





Complete possession is proved only by giving. All you are unable to give possesses you.

-Andre Gide





No object is mysterious. The mystery is your eye.

-Elizabeth Bowen





Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.

-Pablo Picasso













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What a great thread! There is chicken soup for the soul in Body Mind & Soul but we should definately look into philosophy forum.

What a nice thread to read in the morning. Lots to think about for the day.

I like Hoffer the best of all these particular aphorisms as well.
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All of the following are by Eric Hoffer. They were published in 1954 in The Passionate State of Mind and other aphorisms by Eric Hoffer.



These are just some of the ones i find illuminating, or challenging or that give me pause. There are 280 of these in the book. Highly recommended. His ascerbic take on modern man is fascinating. As i've mentioned, he himself was fascinating - by the age of five he could read both german and english. At seven, for reasons unknown, he went blind. His eyesight returned just as inexplicably when he was fifteen. He had no formal education of any kind. While writing his books, he worked as a migrant farm laborer, dishwasher, gold prospector, and finally as a longshoreman in San Francisco until his death in 1983.



If what we profess is not an organic part of our understanding, we are likely to profess it with vehemence and intolerance. Intolerance is the "Do Not Touch" sign on something that cannot bear touching. We do not mind having our hair ruffled, but we will not tolerate any familiarity with the toupee which covers our baldness.





Far more crucial than what we know or do not know is what we do not want to know. One often obtains a clue to a person's nature by discovering the reasons for his or her imperviousness to certain impressions.





It is by their translation into mere words and almost meaningless symbols that ideas move people and stir them to action. This deintellectualization of ideas is the work of the pseudo-intellectuals. The self-styled intellectual who is impotent with pen and ink hungers to write history with sword and blood.





We lie loudest when we lie to ourselves.





When the weak want to give an impression of strength they hint meaningfully at their capacity for evil. It is by its promise of a sense of power that evil often attracts the weak.





By discovering our own blemishes in others we as it were assert our kinship with others. Malice is thus a social faculty.





To find the cause of our ills in something outside of ourselves, something specific that can be spotted and eliminated, is a diagnosis that cannot fail to appeal. To say that the cause of our troubles is not in us but in the Jews, and pass immediately to the extermination of the Jews, is a prescription likely to find a wide acceptance.





When a situation is so unprecedented that no amount of knowledge or experience is adequate to master it, then the ignorant and inexperienced are more fit to deal with it than the learned and experienced. The unknown and untried give as it were a special fitness to the unfit.





To know a person's religion we need not listen to his profession of faith but must find his brand of intolerance.





There is radicalism in all getting, and conservatism in all keeping. Lovemaking is radical, while marriage is conservative. So, too, get-rich-quick capitalism is radical, while a capitalism intent solely on keeping what it already has is conservative. Radicalism itself ceases to be radical when absorbed mainly in preserving its control over a society or an economy.





Good judgment in our dealings with others consists not in seeing through deceptions and evil intentions but in being able to waken the decency dormant in every person.









No one is truly literate who cannot read his own heart.

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Friendship and community are, first of all, inner qualities.Henry Newman



How good and how pleasant it is that brothers sit together. Psalm 133



In my friends, I find my second self. Oscar Wilde
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Just emailed my dad and said "If you never go into the garden again," (I've been bugging him to join) "go there now and read the Aphorisms thread." Great read Anastrophe. Thanks!
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BOTHWELL TAUGHT ME THIS VERSE, I AM NOT CERTAIN OF AUTHOR, IT'S ENTITLED "IF"



If you can dream -- and not make dreams your master;

If you can think -- and not make thoughts your aim;

If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster

And treat those two imposters just the same;

If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken

Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,

Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,

And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools...------------------------------ALSO, I LOVE THIS LITTLE BIT FROM CHURCHILL, JUST A GREAT WITTICISM REALLY...Lady Astor: "Winston, if I were your wife I'd put poison in your coffee."

Winston: "Nancy, if I were your husband I'd drink it." :D











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A long time favorite;



The louder he talked of his honour, the faster we counted our spoons.



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I've been on this thread for about an hour reading everything and having deep discussions on just about every aphorism I've read out loud to kensloft as he tries to unpack. I feel like I should have some deep thoughts to add here but I'll have to get back to you when I have a chance to scramble looking for something to make me sound well read and intellectual. :-6
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LC the poem is Rudyard Kipling
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A few from my side:

"Arise and accept an attitude to ward off old age and death; it is the knowledge that all wealth and prosperity, all pleasures and enjoyments are harmfull to us unless devoted to the good of others; they tend only to sicken and enervate our frames". Yoga Vasishta

"It is more blessed to give than to receive". Acts. XX.35

"Just as a flower gives out its fragrance to whomsoever approaches or uses it, so love from within us radiates towards everybody and manifests as spontaneous service .... When we feed, clothe and attend on anybody, we feel like doing all these things to our own body, for which we do not expect any return or praise or commendation, because all bodies are our own, for, we as the all-pervading Atman or Spirit reside in all bodies". Swami Ramdas
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"You can not leave foot prints in the sands of time sitting on your butt. And who wants to leave butt prints in the sands of time?"
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Bullet wrote: "You can not leave foot prints in the sands of time sitting on your butt. And who wants to leave butt prints in the sands of time?"


You wrote it?
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Suresh Gupta wrote: You wrote it?no, I read it a long time ago at on a companies conference room dry erase board. That was about 10 years ago, and while it may be humorous, it stuck with me.
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Bullet wrote: no, I read it a long time ago at on a companies conference room dry erase board. That was about 10 years ago, and while it may be humorous, it stuck with me.


No doubt it is humorous but conveys a reality. One can not really leave foot prints while sitting on his butt. He has to stand to leave his foot prints. Standing tall amongst others by creating examples is what is required to leave foot prints for others to follow. This is how I want to read this wuote.
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Suresh Gupta wrote: No doubt it is humorous but conveys a reality. One can not really leave foot prints while sitting on his butt. He has to stand to leave his foot prints. Standing tall amongst others by creating examples is what is required to leave foot prints for others to follow. This is how I want to read this wuote.Very good grasshopper, but can you snatch the pebble from my hand? lol Seriously, you nailed on the head. I love humor, I try to see it in every situation, yet learn from the situation also.
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Bullet wrote: Very good grasshopper, but can you snatch the pebble from my hand? lol Seriously, you nailed on the head. I love humor, I try to see it in every situation, yet learn from the situation also.


It is your pebble. It is a rare quality to see humor in every situation. And you are again right that we learn from the situations.
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It is the nature of aphoristic thinking to be always in a state of concluding; a bid to have the final word is inherent in all powerful phrase-making.

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(moved from general religious discussion to the new philosophy forum)
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and apropos of the move:



Existentialism means that no one else can take a bath for you.

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anastrophe wrote: and apropos of the move:



Existentialism means that no one else can take a bath for you.

-Delmore Schwartz




Well how very cool, now that it has been brought to my attention and it isn't all about "religion" I think I will enjoy coming here too.

Bullet, I like your "credo" (isn't that what you call a motto or words to live by?" Ok let me go check marriam and web brb.
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Never mind I found something more appropriate for moi

"credo quia absurdum est"

I believe it because it is absurd tahh dahh my very new signature addition ... kinda fitting huh.
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"Nothing in life is to be feared, merely understood" Anon

"people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel" Pat Riley

"Good friends are like stars.... You don't always see them, but you know they are always there" Anon

"Never bend your head. Always hold it high. Look the world straight in the eye."

Helen Keller



More like quotes I guess but some of my faves.
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Who's this "Anon" guy? He seems pretty smart! LOL!

"If you want to make Apple Pie from scratch, you must first create the Universe."

-Carl Sagan

"i've had a wonderful time, but this wasn't it."

-Groucho Marx

"I have often regretted my speech, but never my silence."

-Xenocrates

"I'm living so far beyond my income, we might almost be said to be living apart."

-e.e. cummings

"I'll moider da bum"

- Boxer Tony Galento when asked what he thought of Shakespeare.

"People that never get carried away, should be!"

-Malcolm Forbes.
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knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens

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denial aint just a river in egypt

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all truth passes through three stages, first it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, third it is accepted as being 'self evident'
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I received it in my e-mail. Want to share it with you.

"Don't interrupt others or finish their sentences. This insidious tendency is nothing more than an innocent habit that has become invisible to you. Remind yourself (before a conversation begins, if possible) to be patient and wait. Tell yourself to allow the other person to finish speaking before you take your turn. You'll notice, right away, how much the interactions with the people in your life will improve as a direct result of this simple act."

Richard Carlson, Stress Consultant and Author
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Suresh Gupta wrote: I received it in my e-mail. Want to share it with you.

"Don't interrupt others or finish their sentences. This insidious tendency is nothing more than an innocent habit that has become invisible to you. Remind yourself (before a conversation begins, if possible) to be patient and wait. Tell yourself to allow the other person to finish speaking before you take your turn. You'll notice, right away, how much the interactions with the people in your life will improve as a direct result of this simple act."

Richard Carlson, Stress Consultant and Author


You know suresh the best way I learned that was working with folks from other countries where english is a second language. I have learned the value of "shutting up" I have learned it frustrates folks to be" talked on top of. "

I so believe in what Carlson said. And learned as well that I dont' really like it when others innocently talk over top of me. Something of value in a person who can genuinely "listen"
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Jives wrote: Who's this "Anon" guy? He seems pretty smart! LOL!

"If you want to make Apple Pie from scratch, you must first create the Universe."

-Carl Sagan

"i've had a wonderful time, but this wasn't it."

-Groucho Marx

"I have often regretted my speech, but never my silence."

-Xenocrates

"I'm living so far beyond my income, we might almost be said to be living apart."

-e.e. cummings

"I'll moider da bum"

- Boxer Tony Galento when asked what he thought of Shakespeare.

"People that never get carried away, should be!"

-Malcolm Forbes.


Anon is my hero :)
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"Those who wish to sing always find a song."

Proverb

"May you have enough happiness to make you sweet, enough trials to make you strong, enough sorrow to keep you human enough hope to make you happy."...anon



"Hope is the thing with feathers, that perches in the soul, and sings the tune without words, and never stops at all."

Emily Dickinson (American, 1830-1886)

"I love humor. I always will fall back on humor. That's something that I think you can't ever get enough of and, if it's done well, it's great. When it's bad, it's horrible."

Sandra Bullock





just a few more and yep another by anon :) Sigh
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minks wrote: You know suresh the best way I learned that was working with folks from other countries where english is a second language. I have learned the value of "shutting up" I have learned it frustrates folks to be" talked on top of. "

I so believe in what Carlson said. And learned as well that I dont' really like it when others innocently talk over top of me. Something of value in a person who can genuinely "listen"


When I was studying management, there was a paper on listening. A person who is a good listener is a good manager.
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"Unless we respect each other, how can we have good relations'.

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"Catch your peers doing something right. When you enter your place of work, you never leave it at zero. You either make it a little better or a little worse. Make it a little better."

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Suresh Gupta wrote: I received it in my e-mail. Want to share it with you.



"Don't interrupt others or finish their sentences. This insidious tendency is nothing more than an innocent habit that has become invisible to you. Remind yourself (before a conversation begins, if possible) to be patient and wait. Tell yourself to allow the other person to finish speaking before you take your turn. You'll notice, right away, how much the interactions with the people in your life will improve as a direct result of this simple act."

Richard Carlson, Stress Consultant and AuthorSimpler way was put to me by my sister a few years ago.................

Listen LISTEN LISTEN...............SHUT UP
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ArnoldLayne wrote: An amusing "nuggett of wisdom"



Native indian make small fire -spend all night keeping warm

White man make big fire -spend all night fetching firewood
Or:

Indian build little fire......stand close

White man build big fire......stand waaaaay back
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on listening

I have 2 ears and only 1 mouth, which do you think I should be better at....
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"When you and I leave our homes every morning, we've got two choices: we can be positive, caring, compassionate, respectful human beings, or we can be grumpy, nasty, whining, griping, complaining human beings."

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Wasting ourselves is sometimes a way of camouflaging our worthlessness: we hereby maintain the fiction that there is aught worth wasting.





Propaganda does not deceive people; it merely helps them to deceive themselves.





There is a large measure of totalitarianism even in the freest of free societies. But in a free society totalitarianism is not imposed from without but is implanted within the individual. There is a totalitarian regime inside every one of us. We are ruled by a ruthless politburo which sets our norms and drives us from one five-year plan to another. The autonomous individual who has to justify his existence by his own efforts is in eternal bondage to himself.





For all we know, the wholly harmonious individual might be without the impulse to push on, and without the compulsion to strive for perfection in any department of life. There is always a chance that the perfect society might be a stagnant society.



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"To Have A Healthy Garden One Must Pull the Weeds." Pol Pot- August 1975.
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i'll see you and raise you:

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.

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"If all you can muster in your mind and heart is to say, 'I wish I felt good about this relationship again, and I wish I felt lovingly toward this person again because I know that at least at one time in my life, those emotions felt good,' then that is enough of an ember for us to fan into a flame."

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Doubt is a pain too lonely to know that faith is his brother. - Kahlil Gibran
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koan wrote: Doubt is a pain too lonely to know that faith is his brother. - Kahlil GibranNow that is cool koan.
"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group that believes you can do these things. Among them are a few Texas millionaires, or businessman from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid." [font=Arial Narrow][/font]

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By Hermann Hesse:

Eternity is a mere moment, just long enough for a joke.

People with courage and character always seem sinister to the rest.

When dealing with the insane, the best method is to pretend to be sane.
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