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<t>Health care "reform" in America is heading down to the wire. The problem is that there is little in the way of true reform. In the final analysis what is being proposed (and yes I have read all the details of the various bills because that is my job) is an expansion of a bad system. The losers wi...

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<t>gmc;1250444 wrote: I can kind of understand why though. I think the rest of the world was holding it's breathe to see who won that election. If it had been McCain and more of the same right wing militaristic foreign policy you'd have seen the nato nations seriously beginning to distance themselve...

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<r>Results don't matter, just a good effort gets you recognized and rewarded. What a message we send to our children and how we demean the true achievers. Did Obama deserve the Nobel prize that placed him on par with Mother Theresa and others who spent a lifetime working for peace and ot...

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Bruv;1234799 wrote: As an Englishman the thread title intriqued me.......Is it inferring Americans are stupid ?

For Americans who believe that the fundamental problem is the lack of coverage by many Americans and not the cost of our care, that's exactly what it means.

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<t>Some of us have been saying from the start that expanding coverage before addressing the underlying cost of health care is a mistake. Of course, some of us do not have a number of letters attached at the end of our name and thus we are going on gut instinct, in some cases such as mine accompanied...

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<t>gmc;1233757 wrote: so quinnscommentary have we helped at all? Yes,thank you. In fact I copied many of your replies and posted them on my blog so Americans can see them. You might alsowant to know there was a recent article on the NYT which began by reiterating the problems in the...

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<t>Bryn Mawr;1232184 wrote: Can you point me to some NHS documentation for this or is it purely from the US media? I first learned of it in an article by a professor at Harvard, but I also found this. Â© 1988 Oxford University Press research-article <br/...

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<t>Bryn Mawr;1232173 wrote: It's not a term in the public domain - whether it is used within the health care system I would not know. Raven would be the best person to do a comparison being an American working within the NHS. Looking at the definition it sounds like an accountants approac...

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Just curious,do you folks in the UK know the term Quality Adjusted Life Year and how it is used in your health care system?

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<t>I am one of those Americans who do not want a government run system or option for that matter. I do think we need major reform and certainly we need a way to assure that every American has coverage and access to medical care, but from my point of view a government run system is a very inefficient...

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<t>oscar;1230828 wrote: Isn't this just a large dose of penis envy on your part? Get your own health care system perfectionised and then critisize ours. Good god, I've just read about a poor girl who was being bullied because she had no eyelashes. Our NHS just gave her a PIONEE...

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Joseph;1230798 wrote: You can have choice that is what is important.....

The NHS is fundamental in any society..

What kind of choice are you referring to?

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I hear a lot about "free" health care and while it may be free at the point of service, we all know there is a cost. What does this program really cost the UK citizens and does anyone care what it costs?

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<t>The UK health care system is being drawn into the raging debate in the US. Here is text from an article that recently appeared in the Wall Street Journal. Having never been to the UK (except a stop at Heathrow), I have no idea what he is talking about, but it doesn't sound good. <...

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<t>Many of you inside and outside the US are probably wondering what the heck is going on with health care in America. Sometimes what you see is not what you get. If you are interested in the issues from the perspective of someone who managed health benefits at a large employer for over ...

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How about gasoline powered cars?

How about health insurance companies?

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<t>The following is from my new Blog. I am spending a great deal of time on this issue inlcuding meeting with members of Congress and their staffs. I would like to hear what Americans think is going on with regard to health care. I do not run a forum, but I would also appreciate your comments to any...

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<r>spot;1203684 wrote: I realize you'd need to register in order to read it but I'll link to Sunday's <URL url="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/15/opinion/15mon4.html?em"><LINK_TEXT text="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/15/opini ... n4.html?em">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/15/opinion/15mon4.html?em<...

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<t>This is a long post and is written mainly for Americans. But as usual I welcome the perpsective of our friends over the pond. Other related health care issues can be found on my Blog On the Road to Controlling Health Care Costs No co-pay so I thought, what the heck?No one ch...

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<t>spot;1203220 wrote: How is "free access at the point of delivery" so hard to grasp? It means that anyone going along to use the system hands over no money, however much access they need. The costs are entirely borne by the nation as a whole through central taxation. The consequence is that being ...

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<t>G-man;1202790 wrote: Medicaid works rather well in the US if you're unemployed and broke... I don't know what the solution is, but I know that it's going to be a complex one that is long overdue in both the US and Canada. Actually it doesn't work so well. the governmen...

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<t>spot;1203378 wrote: A nationful of American students reciting the Pledge of Allegiance every morning while saluting the Stars and Stripes seems indistinguishable from where I'm stood. Living on arms exports, massive military expenditure, insane levels of patriotic fervor? Clean your own house bef...

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<t>Marie Antoinette is known (incorrectly) as the women who made the grave mistake of uttering â€œlet them eat cakeâ€ or as the French say â€ "qu'ils mangent de la brioche." I am not sure if those were the exact words, but the concept is indisputable. Put enough pressure on the people, ignore thei...

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<t>spot;1202874 wrote: You either don't understand the words or you twist them, I'm not sure which. The UK National Health Service provides healthcare "free at the point of delivery", that's the only sense in which anyone here uses the word "free". It has nothing to do with the fact that ...

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<t>spot;1202743 wrote: You wouldn't prefer to join in the thread's discussion instead? The thing is, there's an opportunity to differ constructively here. On your blog you're rather protected from general facts rather than selective ones. Unfortunately, there is only so m...

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<r>Lon;1202664 wrote: <LIST><s>[LIST]</s><LI>OPINION JUNE 9, 2009 Canada's ObamaCare Precedent Governments always ration care by making you wait. That can be deadly. By DAVID GRATZER Congressional Democrats will...

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Not unusual these days, check this story out as well.

The incredible shrinking ice cream :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

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<r>I am looking at a picture of the head of Chrysler and GM testifying before US Senatorâ€™s on June 3rd. The Senators were questioning the process by which these auto makers were closing dealerships. One Senator commented that the auto makers should not be allowed to take taxpayer funds and then le...

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CARLA;1197051 wrote: Tropicana Juice drink Lemonade...!! :-3

Right you are! Even the right brand. :-6

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<t>Snowfire;1197027 wrote: Maybe we should read the ingredients on the bottles and packets a little more carefully. We're all guilty of eating/drinking/rubbing our horses with this sort of stuff without really knowing what goes into them. Scary stuff Ah, there's is the p...

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Nobody has it yet.:yh_rotfl

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<r>"Treated water, high fructose corn syrup, lemon juice concentrate, citric acid, natural flavor, sodium hexametaphosphate, gum Arabic, potassium benzoate, postassium sorbate, salt, glycerol ester of wood rosin, calcium disodiuym edta, yellow 5" The above is off the bottle of something, ...

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<t>thehcmgorg;1190486 wrote: Who will run the health care system under the Minnesota Health Plan? If you are interested in an analysis I just did on the Minnesota proposal, take a look at my Blog. If you are from that state you may want to share it with others from Minnesota and get...

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<t>As someone who has managed health benefits for over 45 years, I can tell you this plan is more smoke and mirrors and will not control costs, just as the Massachusetts program did not control costs and is now suffering the consequences. There is nothing in this plan that will control co...

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<r>Given the limited scope of interest in reforming US health care, I thought I would just provide links to two new articles I have prepared on the subject if you are interested (and Americans should be). Both are on my new Blog What is wrong with healthcare in America and why ...

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<r>There are people in this world who deserve special recognition and often they go unrewarded and anonymous. These people make our lives easier and in the case of my example here, less messy as well. <E>:)</E> My choice for the unheralded award of excellence goes to the fellow (or gal) w...

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<t>spot;1187038 wrote: It's called fair pay based on need. It's not the American Way, of course, but it's arguable and in Europe it's practiced at least to some extent. Capitalism died last year and thank goodness for that. As Mark Twain said, the reports of my demise are greatly ex...

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<t>gmc;1187905 wrote: posted by quinns commentary You have anti-trust laws and environmental legislation but also a culture that tries to portray such laws as interfering with business-socialistic in nature and giving too much power to government and corporations that buy off ...

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<t>You know, the world is not a nice place or a fair place, it has always been so and will be so forever. Each society has social structures and classes, the have, the have not and the have most. That too will never change because those qualities are inherent in human beings. In a good s...

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<t>Objectively though. If you have a situation where the wealth of a nation is concentrated in a few powerful hands is that a good or a bad thing? Once upon a time it would have been kings and warlords. I doubt many would argue they should be allowed to keep their ill gotten gains and status. ...

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<r>cars;1186338 wrote: Now that you're through counting the Cheerios Quinn, maybe you could come & count the blades of grass in my front lawn. So I can find out if I need to add additional fertilizer! <E>:D</E>:wah::p;) (PS: you said you're only "partially" retired now, wonder what wi...

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<r>Scrat;1186000 wrote: So far I have not been in any hospital for any length of time except for once when I ended up being a component in a 480v power system. Bluecross got quite a bill for that I'm sure and I definitely was very disappointed in the system. A lot of Xrays and blood test...

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<t>weeder;1185939 wrote: August 2004... I had surgery to remove a melanoma from my left arm. 12 inch scar but only one surgery. I had hired a plastic surgeon, skin cancer specialist to do the job. Insurance paid ALL of her bills. Office visits and surgery. I was thrilled. Then she threw in a bill fo...

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<t>:rolleyes:Scrat;1185776 wrote: What about all of the people who bring their kids in for the most mundane things, a case of the sniffles? What about all of the prescription drugs consumed by Americans? We're the most drugged out society in mankinds history. Look at people like Octomom who have lit...

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<t>qsducks;1185751 wrote: Try sitting in the ER with an injured child and having to watch all the peeps who have no health insurance get to see a doctor/xray, etc. before you. It sucks and yes, we have insurance. 6 effing hours to see a doctor!!!:-5:-5:-5 And to think we came in before they did:-5. ...

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<t>qsducks;1185748 wrote: I think he just has his remote control onto the PBS channel which shows Sesame Street or one of his grandchildren hid the remote control. I'm sure we'll hear a thread about that soon. Kidding Quinn Hey, this is serious stuff. Do you really want to overdose ...

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<t>Lon;1185146 wrote: I have related in other posts from time to time about my and my wife's medical history. She is now 65 and eligible for medicare and I am 74. She will be paying $96.40 each month to the U.S. government from her monthly Social Security Benefit. I am currently paying the same $96....

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<t>There is a lot wrong (and right) with health care in the United States, one of the things that is wrong is patient expectations and perceptions. Consider this real life example (a typical case). A patient undergoes surgery and during the main procedure, the surgeon performs ...

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<t>I am learning that there are very different views on a subject depending on the side of the Atlantic you are on. There seems to be a very different perspective on many things and an acceptance of some things that are alien to the other side. Health care is one of many. For example, Ame...

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<t>Did you know there are 180 Honey Nut Cheerios in a Â¾ of a cup? Yes, I counted them being partially retired with little else of consequence to do at 7:00 am on a weekday morning. Of course, that begs the additional question as to why you would want to know how many Cheerios are in a serving. Well...

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