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<t>anastrophe wrote: and you have advocated NOT revoking rights where someone has acted criminally negligently. it is YOUR DUTY as a good citizen to report criminal activity if you witness it. nobody here can attest to jive's (fictional) story, so nobody here could report it ...

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<t>Tomi wrote: I believe that any law-abiding citizen should have the right to possess firearms. I also know that there are some people that I prefer not to be around when they have a gun in their hands, just as there are certain people I don't like to ride in cars with. This is simply because the b...

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<t>commie_kalafornian wrote: Ok Lets look at this again. I do thus I a dumb and deserve shame. YOU do (by your own admission), thus . What do you think is ? I am willing to accept the orginal poster doesn't want to decide which lawful individua...

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<t>anastrophe wrote: you just don't get it. the original poster never said that she/he decides who gets to own firearms. you put words in the original posters mouth, then attacked them for it. so i turned it right back around on you. no, you didn't say you were censoring his/...

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<t>anastrophe wrote: in exactly the same way you posed it for crying out loud. read your own words, and tell me how they differ from yours. here's the easy step by step process. read your post. read my reply. note the similar construction. bury your head in shame. ...

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<t>Tomi wrote: I never claimed I did. The man was debating whether he should get another firearm. Judging from the stories he told about his own past history with firearms, I recommended against it. The key word is "should." In the "hunting" story, he describes committing several felonies...

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<t>anastrophe wrote: the law in all states of the constitution is very clear on this issue. YOU don't get to decide who can or cannot express their opinion on the matter. Oh? From that short bit of text? How did you conclude that I am trying to cens...

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<t>Tomi wrote: You may be a fine person, but in the situations you describe you behaved like a dangerous fool. No, you should not possess firearms. The law in all states in in the Constitution is very clear on this issue. YOU don't decide who gets to own firea...

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<t>abbey wrote: Pardon me if i'm wrong, but i dont think there are any "Anti gunners" from the USA on this forum. Why dont you go to the shooting range & get it out of your system! Thank you but I did take you up on that today. Do you know what...

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<t>spot wrote: Take it away, sir. You're one of the few write-only posters here who won't read another's view and modify their message accordingly. However many times people with knowledge and experience tell you the facts on the ground, you don't open your mind to what they can bring to the discuss...

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<t>gmc wrote: posted by kommie kalifornian It's a non sequiter. You choose to believe people take no action because everybody is cowed and apathetic because that's what you want to believe as it tallies with your daft perceptions. The fact that every UK poster is telling you t...

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<t>gmc wrote: posted by kommie kalifiornian Oh cobblers, never let the facts get in the way of a good opinion. Believe what you want it's clearly a waste of time talking to you. Did I missing something? Did I misrepresent something. The text is very clear buty...

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<t>gmc wrote: posted by commie kalifornian I have read it I suggest you do so. if people perceieved the threat as real they would do somethimg about it. They don't because they are not worried not because they are apathetic or cowed. 92% said they would take action if someone ...

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<t>Lionrampant wrote: It was in the US that a British person was shot dead, and he was knocking on a door to get directions. I have to say that the security issue is biased by the media. I think bringing weapons into the house will cause more innocent deaths than anything else.... <b...

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<t>gmc wrote: posted by kommie californian You miss the point, people don't bother about burglar alarms, neighbourhood watches etc because despite surveys to the contrary they don't feel threatened Again I ask you to read the post: _____...

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<t>CVX wrote: Calif. AG Wants ID Codes on Handgun Ammo Calif. Attorney General Pushes for Law Requiring Handgun Ammo to Carry Traceable Codes The Associated Press LOS ANGELES Oct. 7, 2004 California's attorney general said Thursday he's pushing for a law requiring ha...

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<t>spot wrote: You have so little idea or experience of what you're talking about that it's embarrassing to watch. Let me testify to the conditions you're trying to describe. I don't live in the countryside, I live about a mile from the city center. I've been here fifteen years. The only ...

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<r>Lionrampant wrote: This thread is under "Gun Control" and as such, their is no case for shooting someone illegally entering your house. You have the right to protect yourself and that is it. The UK has one of the best gun control societies in the world, and it should ban ai...

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<t>Jives wrote: It's funny that this topic comes up occasionally. Here is one of my experiences with guns. Once, when I was a teenager, I went rabbit hunting with 6 of my friends. We had been drinking all day and split into two groups. Our first mistake. My friend and I circled around to ...

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anastrophe wrote: california is in the ninth circuit, not the tenth.

Thanks for the correction. I think you got the point though? Don't you agree that the 9th basically is the laughing stock of the court system?

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<r>lady cop wrote: ah, CVX, i did know about the legislation and wrote about it in some thread somewhere. but i never thought it would mean blood in the streets. it just gives license to self-defense in public. but so far i have seen none of it. there will be a test case one day i am sure. i do reca...

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<t>gmc wrote: posted by commie kalaforian Sounds to me like you haven't a clue what you are talking about. If people don't even consider taking actions to protect themselves, then isn't taking action an alien concept? If you can not even hold the concept of ta...

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<r>Jives wrote: ROFL! That sentence is funny on so many different levels! <E>:D</E> Is there something wrong with the first post in this thread? Did I misrepresent any of the numbers or guestimates? Keep in mind I estimated extremely LOW for those numbers. So then now what? <br...

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<t>gmc wrote: That's the really telling statistic, we are so worried nobody does anything about it. In Scotland there are now calls to have the sale of air guns banned or at the very least over 18's only and licenced. We have many socialist msp's and even the odd wacko tory, (in Scotland...

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<r>Jives wrote: Hmmm...get rid of guns and gun crimes wil go down. That makes sense. As a matter of fact it's a great idea....and it will never happen. Americans are too much in love with their guns. (See" "Bowling for Columbine") A ten year study by the Center for Diseas...

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<t>Far Rider wrote: Yeah Kommie, Spell it out already, Spill the beans... you want guns er not? I'm a NRA ranked national match high power rifleman. Let me ask you a question, am I pro-gun control? Yes I am pro-gun control. I am 100% for the a ban on the possession, sale,...

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<t>Today this law will not be challenged. I already know what the 10th Circuit Court is going to say. The 10th has been very well known as a zoo of hippie illogic and border line communist idealism. But.... Sandra O'conner is now retired. Maybe AFTER GW appoints a new justice w...

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<r><EMAIL email="pantsonfire321@aol.com">pantsonfire321@aol.com</EMAIL> wrote: I Live In London And If Anybody Tryed To Enter My Home I Would Not Hesitate To Pick Up And Use The First Thing That Came To Hand i Have A Dog Which Is A Great Deterrent And I Also Have A Cctv Camera On My Front Door And O...

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<r>Jives wrote: Back at the turn of the century, there was a boy who once threw a rock at an owl in his barnyard. The rock struck the owl, killing it. The boy was so distraught over the death of the owl, that he vowed he would never again kill an animal. Moreover, he decided to dedicate his life and...

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<t>A cheap shotgun = $275 A modern cheap handgun starts at $350 A hunting rifle minus optics starts at $400. A target pistol starts at $1000. A target rifle starts at $1200. Then there are historical firearms worth thousand and even millions of ...

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<r>flopstock wrote: Actually hon, it is debateable. But only because you refuse to report the context in which that picture was taken. The more you refuse to tell me the ' where ,when , how and why of that picture, the less believable your explanation sounds. I am neither anti gun or pro ...

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<r>The statistics for Michigan and people who carry guns don't look good. That is they don't look good for anti-gunners and the snake oil they are selling: <URL url="http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0%2C1607%2C7-123-1591_3503_4654-77621--%2C00.html"><LINK_TEXT text="http://www.michigan.gov/msp...

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<t>flopstock wrote: No idea what-so-ever. But then- i am not making a representation to anyone that he is doing anything wrong, am i? Sorry, but that picture, without the story behind it is just meaningless to me. The fact that you use it without presenting it's context actually raises mo...

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<t>flopstock wrote: You're asking the same questions I asked you to answer for me! You still haven't! You tell me the context of that picture. And I notice that this is 2001 also..what's up with that? Let me answer your question with a question: Do you think he...

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flopstock wrote: 1999 and 2000 come on already!

She is still in office and pushing for more gun and tighter gun laws. Plus what do you think about her concealed gun permit? Isn't that funny? She thinks it is OK for her to carry a gun but not for others to do so?

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<r>flopstock wrote: Do you even realize that the stuff you are putting up is dated 2001 and 2002 respectively? How about current events? More recent examples of erroneous representations? Make the argument, because this is pointless to me. Win me over with facts, for goodness s...

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<t>flopstock wrote: Wow. Guess you have come up with the ultimate example of why guns shouldn't be so readily available. Did she have any training? Was she registered with that gun? But to be fair you know, there are tons of people that are responsible gun owners. And one person 'flipping...

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<t>flopstock wrote: So you can't or won't say where he was and what the purpose of the pic was. And you don't know if he has a permit. I guess i don't have a problem with him or anyone else for that matter having a good time doing something that is legal. But if you don't know any particulars about ...

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<r>This is what anti-gunners like about this guy: <URL url="http://www.bradycampaign.org/press/release.php?release=283"><LINK_TEXT text="http://www.bradycampaign.org/press/rele ... elease=283">http://www.bradycampaign.org/press/release.php?release=283</LINK_TEXT></URL> This is ...

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This gun nut and concealed firearm permit holder is CRAZZZZY. Look at the way she handles firearms in a dangerous way.

http://www.stentorian.com/2ndamend/dianne_f.html

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<r>flopstock wrote: Is this gun illegal? If so where and why was he firing it? If it's not illegal, so what? <EMOJI seq="1f615" tseq="1f615">:confused:</EMOJI> Here is the big deal. This is his record and opinions on guns: <URL url="http://www.senate.gov/~schumer/searchre...

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<r><URL url="http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/guncontrol/">http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/guncontrol/</URL> Very important lesson here. This has become the most cost over run project in the history of western civilization. Imagine this, you buy a candy bar with your credit card for $1...

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http://www.tincher.to/mmm3.htm

Wow. In prison for attempted murder with a gun. Plus she shot the wrong person.

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<r><URL url="http://www.outdoors.net/site/images/imageview.aspx+Forum+Firearms+Category+Firearms+ImageID+10663+AlbumID+0+UserID+0+SearchTerm++curpage+10663"><LINK_TEXT text="http://www.outdoors.net/site/images/ima ... page+10663">http://www.outdoors.net/site/images/imageview.aspx+Forum+Firearms+Cate...

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<t>MicahLorain wrote: I found spellcheck! I'm not a supporter of gun bans but there should be regulation so they arent sold like packs of cigarettes. the us has a very high crime rate compared to the countries of europe and australia, nz, japan and canada. they restrict guns to. the ones that want t...

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<t>MicahLorain wrote: I'm a republican and never owned a gunin my life. what is with you extreme gunnuts? does your gun make up for a weaknes somewere else?? Commie?? You should be ashamed. You mean you don't believe the CDC? You don't believe the CDC because I'm a gun nut? Is that ...

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No proof gun laws help. Boy how do you anti-gunners explain that?

http://www.msnbc.com/news/975079.asp?cp1=1

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<t>Wolverine wrote: Only in Dodge City with Wyatt Earp, Doc Holiday, and Bat Masterson lol I don't understand you? Why problem do you have with this concept: Someone trying to kill you. Then you shooting them to save your own life. Is some...

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Hey didn't the anti-gunners promise that lawful gun owners would go on a killing rampage and make the streets run red with blood? What happened? Why aren't the streets red with blood in Florida?

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