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by Accountable
Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:18 pm
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: More on the minimum wage
Replies: 13
Views: 1898

More on the minimum wage

Proof positive that there need be no national minimum wage. Such a thing is unconstitutional without a "Progressive" spin on interpreting the Constitution.
by Accountable
Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:12 pm
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: The American Pledge of Allegiance
Replies: 41
Views: 3539

The American Pledge of Allegiance

I find it really amusing that the American pledge is generally seen as a right-wing indoctrination tool, yet it was originally written by a socialist.

The Pledge of Allegiance
by Accountable
Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:55 pm
Forum: Current Events
Topic: minimum wage
Replies: 100
Views: 12712

minimum wage

What's the EU rule?
by Accountable
Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:52 pm
Forum: Societal Issues News
Topic: Unintended Consequences?
Replies: 2
Views: 2517

Unintended Consequences?

by Accountable
Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:28 pm
Forum: Retirement Activities
Topic: I Must Be Losing It..............
Replies: 48
Views: 34982

I Must Be Losing It..............

I want to be Lon when I grow up, but I'd never admit it. ;)
by Accountable
Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:01 pm
Forum: Scotland
Topic: Move to ban BNP members teaching
Replies: 35
Views: 29803

Move to ban BNP members teaching

Oscar Namechange;1456993 wrote: Then that makes you the thug that the uninformed assume the BNP are.


Nah, not for wanting to but refraining from. That makes him fairly normal.
by Accountable
Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:54 pm
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: How refreshing a decent Politician
Replies: 89
Views: 8022

How refreshing a decent Politician

President Obama gave the word to get Bin Laden and was criticized for doing exactly what any other president would have done in the same situation (except Clinton who would have fired rockets). Hats off to him for that.

It doesn't tip the scale for me. Doesn't even move it.
by Accountable
Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:01 am
Forum: Scotland
Topic: Move to ban BNP members teaching
Replies: 35
Views: 29803

Move to ban BNP members teaching

<t>Oscar Namechange;1456943 wrote: The BNP ( British National Party ) Is a Bona Fide registered political Party that Is just as accountable to the electoral Commission as are any other Political Party and takes part In legal elections across the country as does any other political party.<br/> <br/> ...
by Accountable
Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:07 am
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: Photograph Dilemna
Replies: 12
Views: 1230

Photograph Dilemna

You have only the one daughter? Give her the photos after you digitize or whatever.
by Accountable
Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:02 am
Forum: Scotland
Topic: Move to ban BNP members teaching
Replies: 35
Views: 29803

Move to ban BNP members teaching

<t>From the article" "We don't allow BNP members to be police officers or prison officers so how can it be acceptable to allow them to be responsible for the education of young people?"<br/> <br/> Excellent question. So it's legal to join this organization, but doing so automatically cuts you out of...
by Accountable
Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:49 am
Forum: Current Events
Topic: minimum wage
Replies: 100
Views: 12712

minimum wage

<r>High Threshold;1456925 wrote: What we have here is a failure to communicate.Clearly<br/> <br/> High Threshold;1456925 wrote: The minimum wage fluctuates and is calculated to represent the cost of living, does it not? I mean it is not a "dollar figure" set in stone, although you seem to think that...
by Accountable
Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:23 pm
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: How refreshing a decent Politician
Replies: 89
Views: 8022

How refreshing a decent Politician

<t>Okay. Let's be civil.<br/> <br/> I get irritated when someone accuses me of being biased toward GW Bush, when I'm sure you can find dozens of posts to the contrary recorded here. You accuse me of just not liking Obama, as if I'm jealous that he's just more popular with the cheerleaders. President...
by Accountable
Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:12 pm
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: How refreshing a decent Politician
Replies: 89
Views: 8022

How refreshing a decent Politician

<t>AnneBoleyn;1456883 wrote: [QUOTE=Accountable;1456705]Not sure who you directed this at, but ...<br/> <br/> It seems that you concede that Benghazi is strong evidence that our administration isn't protecting or defending our citizens, but I suspect you're tossing it off as trivia in the scheme of ...
by Accountable
Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:39 pm
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: How refreshing a decent Politician
Replies: 89
Views: 8022

How refreshing a decent Politician

<t>AnneBoleyn;1456881 wrote: I contend our country is not unprotected or undefended based on this one incident, which involved a consulate, not even an embassy, in Libya.It also involved an ambassador, the first to be murdered since 1979. I'll let others draw the similarities. But I thought you want...
by Accountable
Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:28 pm
Forum: Current Events
Topic: minimum wage
Replies: 100
Views: 12712

minimum wage

<t>High Threshold;1456869 wrote: Of course it does.How?<br/> <br/> High Threshold;1456869 wrote: You are not listening.Then explain. Accusing me of not listening is meaningless.<br/> <br/> High Threshold;1456869 wrote: It [unemployment benefits ought to be at minimum wage - and minimum wage above th...
by Accountable
Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:17 pm
Forum: Current Events
Topic: minimum wage
Replies: 100
Views: 12712

minimum wage

High Threshold;1456869 wrote: What language do you speak?
English, as you damn well know, but I try to keep conversations such as this objective and apply logic to the statements. I'd appreciate it if you do the same.
by Accountable
Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:15 pm
Forum: Current Events
Topic: minimum wage
Replies: 100
Views: 12712

minimum wage

<t>High Threshold;1456869 wrote: [QUOTE=High Threshold;1456806] Are you saying that our figures are incorrect<br/> <br/> <br/> Accountable;1456862 wrote: You have shown no figures at all, so their accuracy is irrelevant. <br/> <br/> <br/> It is unnecessary for me to provide any figures at this stage...
by Accountable
Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:07 pm
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: How refreshing a decent Politician
Replies: 89
Views: 8022

How refreshing a decent Politician

AnneBoleyn;1456865 wrote: Losing a battle like Benghazi means nothing in the long run except to examine policy.
The murder of an American ambassador means nothing. Got it.
by Accountable
Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:05 pm
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: How refreshing a decent Politician
Replies: 89
Views: 8022

How refreshing a decent Politician

<t>AnneBoleyn;1456865 wrote: No, you don't "got it" at all. His murder was not BS, what is BS is the way it has been used to condemn Obama & Hilary Clinton. It's just another excuse in the Fox News arsenal to blow up an incident to war proportions. What about all the unnecessary deaths, thousand...
by Accountable
Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:25 am
Forum: Current Events
Topic: minimum wage
Replies: 100
Views: 12712

minimum wage

<t>High Threshold;1456806 wrote: Excuse me? The quote is as follows; "no one who works full-time should have to live in poverty". Would you care to point out what part of what I wrote "doesn't follow"?<br/> "no one who works full-time should have to live in poverty" does not mean "that it is OK for ...
by Accountable
Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:01 am
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: How refreshing a decent Politician
Replies: 89
Views: 8022

How refreshing a decent Politician

AnneBoleyn;1456781 wrote: I DEFINITELY DO NOT concede on Benghazi. In fact, it's B.S., IMO.
The murder of an American ambassador is BS. Got it.
by Accountable
Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:45 am
Forum: Current Events
Topic: minimum wage
Replies: 100
Views: 12712

minimum wage

<t>High Threshold;1456784 wrote: According to what tude dog posted, Obama (America) has no problem with a portion of its population living in poverty. Let's put his own words into their proper perspective: ANYONE WITHOUT FULL-TIME EMPLOYMENT MAY JUST AS WELL LIVE IN POVERTY - AND THAT'S OK WITH ME.<...
by Accountable
Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:15 am
Forum: Current Events
Topic: minimum wage
Replies: 100
Views: 12712

minimum wage

High Threshold;1456771 wrote: [...] unemployment benefits ought to be at minimum wage - and minimum wage above that. [...]
Um ....
by Accountable
Mon Jun 09, 2014 6:00 am
Forum: Current Events
Topic: minimum wage
Replies: 100
Views: 12712

minimum wage

<t>You set your bar really low to define greed. and your scenario is only one very minor way of many that cause inflation. Most money is electronic now. There's not a paper dollar representing every dollar in circulation. Most new US dollars created goes to buy up US bonds. It's called monetizing th...
by Accountable
Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:49 am
Forum: Current Events
Topic: minimum wage
Replies: 100
Views: 12712

minimum wage

<t>AnneBoleyn;1456414 wrote: It's not the amount of money, it's the buying power of the money & since the '80's prices have soared while salaries remain flat.<br/> <br/> <br/> Exactly. This is because the value of the dollar has tanked, relative to the international exchange system. So why aren'...
by Accountable
Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:37 am
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: How refreshing a decent Politician
Replies: 89
Views: 8022

How refreshing a decent Politician

<t>AnneBoleyn;1456296 wrote: Without using the word Benghazi, where has the country not been protected or defended? What makes you personally feel unprotected or undefended?Not sure who you directed this at, but ...<br/> <br/> It seems that you concede that Benghazi is strong evidence that our admin...
by Accountable
Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:07 am
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: How refreshing a decent Politician
Replies: 89
Views: 8022

How refreshing a decent Politician

<t>Trust & like aren't synonymous, or even linked, necessarily. Sometimes people dislike what someone does and say they don't trust him, when they probably should say that they trust him to do something they don't like.<br/> <br/> I have students I like a lot - really funny & personable - bu...
by Accountable
Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:52 am
Forum: General Religious Discussions
Topic: Religious Slaughter
Replies: 324
Views: 24017

Religious Slaughter

Congrats, Oscar. Too few are willing to take direct action on things important to them.
by Accountable
Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:49 pm
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: How refreshing a decent Politician
Replies: 89
Views: 8022

How refreshing a decent Politician

I would be very okay if corporations as they currently exist were outlawed, making owners liable for their company's actions.
by Accountable
Sat May 31, 2014 3:31 pm
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: Cottage Hospitals
Replies: 17
Views: 1206

Cottage Hospitals

That's what it sounds like to me. Bureaucrats have to *do* things to justify their pay, so they make changes for the sake of change.

My instinct is that people would get better service if the facilities were decentralized, but I don't have anything real to back it up.
by Accountable
Sat May 31, 2014 3:08 pm
Forum: Current Events
Topic: minimum wage
Replies: 100
Views: 12712

minimum wage

When you hear politicians hollering about the minimum wage, look around, because they're trying to distract you from something important.
by Accountable
Sat May 31, 2014 2:51 pm
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: How refreshing a decent Politician
Replies: 89
Views: 8022

How refreshing a decent Politician

<t>LarsMac;1456051 wrote: You mean like the one about people waiting for gummint handouts?<br/> State gummints wait for federal gummint handouts accounting for something like 40% of their budgets. <br/> <br/> Public schools turn themselves inside-out trying to qualify for gummint handouts (since the...
by Accountable
Sat May 31, 2014 1:26 pm
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: How refreshing a decent Politician
Replies: 89
Views: 8022

How refreshing a decent Politician

<t>LarsMac;1455900 wrote: "...but it's become our culture to think of Washington as the apex of a unitary national government,..." <br/> <br/> Whose culture? Is that a Texas thing? Seems so. I don't remember where you live. I base my observation on national news & politics. Is it a Texas thing? ...
by Accountable
Fri May 30, 2014 3:21 am
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: How refreshing a decent Politician
Replies: 89
Views: 8022

How refreshing a decent Politician

LarsMac;1455872 wrote:

It is not The government in Washington that limits us.

We need to stop making excuses for "the people"
What excuses do you infer that I'm making?

Do you dispute that Washington has abandoned the rule of law?
by Accountable
Fri May 30, 2014 3:18 am
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: How refreshing a decent Politician
Replies: 89
Views: 8022

How refreshing a decent Politician

LarsMac;1455872 wrote: You should stop right there before the word, "but".

That is a complete thought.

Then pick up the next thought. Do you agree or disagree with that "next thought"?
by Accountable
Thu May 29, 2014 6:32 pm
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: How refreshing a decent Politician
Replies: 89
Views: 8022

How refreshing a decent Politician

<t>LarsMac;1455772 wrote: The US is the typical industrialized nation. <br/> <br/> And the gummint is far less intrusive that many of the corporations we deal with, today. <br/> <br/> I believe it to be the government's task to protect me for the corporate dogs who would snatch every morsel of my li...
by Accountable
Thu May 29, 2014 5:31 pm
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: Why Don't We The People Take Control Of Our Lives?
Replies: 16
Views: 1176

Why Don't We The People Take Control Of Our Lives?

Saint_;1455806 wrote: Pfft. We all live in a Plutocracy, everyone knows that.
Yup, whether or not they've ever heard of the word. ;)
by Accountable
Thu May 29, 2014 4:09 am
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: How refreshing a decent Politician
Replies: 89
Views: 8022

How refreshing a decent Politician

<t>gmc;1455753 wrote: You need a balance between the two, giving corporations free rein is not god for anybody - who else is going to hold them o account if not government and the laws they make. If the people are sovereign and they elect the government are you seriously suggesting they should not b...
by Accountable
Wed May 28, 2014 8:34 pm
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: How refreshing a decent Politician
Replies: 89
Views: 8022

How refreshing a decent Politician

<t>Bruv;1455693 wrote: You have turned into Tude?If you see a siilarity in the exchanges between you & Tude, and you & I, perhaps you should look in what the two have in common.<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> tude dog;1455724 wrote: That was just mean spirited.<br/> <br/> Accountable deserves more r...
by Accountable
Wed May 28, 2014 8:32 pm
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: Why Don't We The People Take Control Of Our Lives?
Replies: 16
Views: 1176

Why Don't We The People Take Control Of Our Lives?

I credit George Washington for keeping us from going down the same road. He could have declared himself 'President For Life' if he wanted, but he somehow resisted the lure and set us on the better road.
by Accountable
Wed May 28, 2014 3:40 am
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: How refreshing a decent Politician
Replies: 89
Views: 8022

How refreshing a decent Politician

Indeed.

I prefer my government to be far weaker than the typical industrialized nation. Far less intrusive into personal lives.
by Accountable
Wed May 28, 2014 3:36 am
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: Why Don't We The People Take Control Of Our Lives?
Replies: 16
Views: 1176

Why Don't We The People Take Control Of Our Lives?

<t>jones jones;1455689 wrote: Personally Captain, I don't see that. However we all interpret in out own way.<br/> Good. Then help me understand you on this, because I find it really interesting. <br/> <br/> I believe the fat salary you mention, while being a good initial incentive, is really seconda...
by Accountable
Tue May 27, 2014 7:15 pm
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: Why Don't We The People Take Control Of Our Lives?
Replies: 16
Views: 1176

Why Don't We The People Take Control Of Our Lives?

JJ, it seems as if your post #5 is arguing with your post #1.
by Accountable
Tue May 27, 2014 6:47 pm
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: How refreshing a decent Politician
Replies: 89
Views: 8022

How refreshing a decent Politician

<t>Bruv;1455549 wrote: So in San Antonio the weatherman doesn't bother telling you in summer it's going to be hot tomorrow ?<br/> <br/> <br/> Bruv;1455550 wrote: OK .................The freedom to drive on which side of the road is clear at the moment ?<br/> <br/> Thats how they used the roads.........
by Accountable
Mon May 26, 2014 4:08 pm
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: How refreshing a decent Politician
Replies: 89
Views: 8022

How refreshing a decent Politician

<t>Bruv;1455538 wrote: ......remember.......back in the good old days, when rickets and polio were common, people used to look after each other. If anyone was hungry they could always share their neighbours good fortune, people knew their neighbours names, nobody locked their doors.<br/> <br/> There...
by Accountable
Mon May 26, 2014 4:05 pm
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: How refreshing a decent Politician
Replies: 89
Views: 8022

How refreshing a decent Politician

Bruv;1455538 wrote: News agencies report.........News.

If it wasn't happening they couldn't report it.They can't possibly report every bit of news that they find, so they have to decide on what to report. They report what they think will make the biggest stir.
by Accountable
Mon May 26, 2014 2:22 pm
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: How refreshing a decent Politician
Replies: 89
Views: 8022

How refreshing a decent Politician

LarsMac;1455493 wrote: You obviously live somewhere different than anywhere I have lived .

I see failures all the time.
Any of those failures unable to food or shelter from the government?
by Accountable
Mon May 26, 2014 2:21 pm
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: How refreshing a decent Politician
Replies: 89
Views: 8022

How refreshing a decent Politician

<t>Bruv;1455509 wrote: America's largesse with food programs in third world countries, alongside their insensitivity to their own citizens struggles never ceases to amaze me.Two observations: 1. News agencies report ad nauseum the rare, not the common. If we were truly insensitive to our own citizen...
by Accountable
Mon May 26, 2014 2:16 pm
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: Why Don't We The People Take Control Of Our Lives?
Replies: 16
Views: 1176

Why Don't We The People Take Control Of Our Lives?

<t>jones jones wrote: So why don't we the people, the workers, the tax payers seize control of our lives and our destinies? Take control of your suburb, borough, village and say: 'From now on we will run our own affairs without any top heavy government of slackers sucking the life blood out of us.'<...
by Accountable
Mon May 26, 2014 9:14 am
Forum: General Chit Chat
Topic: How refreshing a decent Politician
Replies: 89
Views: 8022

How refreshing a decent Politician

Bruv;1455478 wrote: What do you think my ideal is then ?
Oops. I got your post mixed with Snowfire's. He stated his ideal. If yours is different, then my response might be different as well.

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