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capt_buzzard wrote: I'm voting NO.I did not want the EU or EEC in the first place.Good Lord, Captain, and there was me thinking the subsidies and the grants had brought the Republic out of penury. Would the place be so prosperous if you'd never been in?

<t>I see the point of banning the use of any scriptures for evangelical purposes, and indeed evangelism in toto, anywhere on a bulletin board. It's just that when the topic has got round, through other means, to a discussion of rich men, beggars, the giving of money to assist charitable good works ...

<t>Thank you, John, now I don't need to look myself up. I do remember that half my class at school was called John. 
 
Valerie, your name's so unusual that I've never met one, at least to talk to. The only reason I know the name is that Richard Thompson wrote a magical song about a girl ...

<t>anastrophe wrote: you have made it clear that you believe that giving money to assist charitable, good works, is mere perfidy - salving one's conscience, distancing, etc - and not a good work in itself. 
 
 
 
"The beggar has far more opportunity for doing good than the rich ...

<t>Sarah N. Cleghorn (1876Ã¢â‚¬“1959), U.S. poet 
 
THANKS to St. Matthew, who had been 
 
At mass-meetings in Palestine, 
 
We know whose side was spoken for 
 
When Comrade Jesus had the floor. 
 
"Where sore they toil and hard they lie, 
<br ...

Tarnation. I'll have to find a shinier maggot.

<t>capt_buzzard wrote: Don't the SAS and Delta force bond together Look out for their buddies more so than the regular squaddiesI think they get paid, Captain. There seems to be a slight difference in the terms of service to those I proposed. 
 
gmc wrote: NoTen points there for concise pith ...

lady cop wrote: ....In Flanders FieldsIf you ever see a copy of http://imdb.com/title/tt0064754/ "Oh! What a Lovely War" in a video rental shop, lady, you'd do well to watch it. I guarantee tears. The imagery of that poem is all there.

<t>Phoebe Cary (1824 - 1871) American Poet 
 
 
 
WHEN lovely woman wants a favor, 
 
And finds, too late, that man won't bend, 
 
What earthly circumstance can save her 
 
From disappointment in the end? 
 
The only way to bring him over,<br ...

You feel that the latter could be a consequence of the former? I see them as unrelated circumstances, myself.

Then I'm so pleased I wasn't advocating a return to it, John.

<t>The vote is on adopting the proposed EU Constitution. The Treaty isn't at issue. The no vote isn't going to bring an end to the EU, or reduce its membership, it just leaves day-to-day EU Government business harder to transact. There will be more official languages to publish everything in, and ...

<t>Slavery is a tarnished concept, ever since the Romans got hold of it and made the rules so harsh. There were arrangements in history that were less onerous, which these days we would class as slavery. Perhaps we should go back to distinguishing the different states, and re-legalize the concept of ...

skittles2004 wrote: What so wrong with socialist liberals??You have to grow a beard and smoke a pipe, Skittles. Though I'm sure it'd look good on you.

<t>anastrophe wrote: remarkably enough, that was not what i was suggesting, or had in mind when i wrote it. for me to do so would feel unseemly. that is why *I* won't discuss specifics. it's my problem, not yours.I know perfectly well why I discussed specifics. It was in response to your ...

<t>anastrophe wrote: i will not, however, discuss the specifics of my 'good works', as doing so is unseemly, and effectively cancels their true charitable basis. they become transactions for the ego, rather than charity.I wonder how influenced you are here by "Take heed that ye do not your alms ...

<t>anastrophe wrote: oh, by the way. you specifically stated "I've spent a lot of time talking with them". shall we take that as an admission that that's all you've done with them? you've not invited them into your home to eat or for shelter from the rain? oh - wait. of course you wouldn't! you'd be ...

<t>anastrophe wrote: i'm afraid you have a very narrow and idyllic notion of what 'doing good works' is. so, a peer. starving children in the sudan, who would be their peer? the cancer researcher i mentioned, delving into the cellular biology in hopes of finding a cure to relieve the suffering of ...

<t>I think we've reached ground which, while not necessarily common, at least uses a similar vocabulary. I have no problem with anything there in your last mail, until the final four words. 
 
anastrophe wrote: and of course, the person on the ground, close up, working and talking in contact ...

<t>anastrophe wrote: when the whore and cackle and booze and i-can-blow-money-faster-than-you, while they are dissipating, others are being enriched by their carelessness. that's the nature of money. when it is 'spent', someone is typically on the receiving end. so the rich man may fritter away his ...

<t>anastrophe wrote: i would much, much rather be the rich man, able to do good by sharing his wealth with those who are in need. 
 
 
 
when my wife and i occasionally banter about winning the lottery, when we start to talk in specifics, the first thing that comes up is how much ...

<t>I'm having a lot of trouble with this thread. Can I try to step back for a paragraph? 
 
Do we call a guy a homosexual (a) because he thinks homosexual thoughts, or (b) because he looks like other homosexuals, or (c) because he goes to bed with other guys? 
 
When you've puzzled ...

<t>Two linked poets: 
 
Wendy Cope, "Another Unfortunate Choice": 
 
I think I am in love with A. E. Housman, 
 
Which puts me in a worse than usual fix. 
 
No woman ever stood a chance with Housman 
 
And he's been dead since 1936. 
 
 
<br ...

<r>capt_buzzard wrote: Also <URL url="http://www.serve.com/pfc/">www.serve.com/pfc/</URL> 
 
 
 
In which you may also find interestingThere can be few people in England who haven't talked about that over the years. Well, schoolkids excepted. Yes, Captain, I've been following it as ...

<r>If you're in the right frame of mind, the Fifth Report of the Independent Monitoring Commission came out today, too. <URL url="http://www.justice.ie/80256E010039C5AF/vWeb/pcJUSQ6CPDE5-en"><LINK_TEXT text="http://www.justice.ie/80256E010039C5AF/ ... Q6CPDE5-en">http://www.justice.ie ...

<r>"This is the first time that a Commission of Investigation has been established under the Commissions of Investigation Act, 2004." 
 
There's a page about it at <URL url="http://www.taoiseach.gov.ie/index.asp?locID=199&docID=1954"><LINK_TEXT text="http://www.taoiseach.gov.ie/index.asp?l ...

<r>capt_buzzard wrote: government information 
 
<URL url="http://www.irisoifigiuil.ieCaptain">www.irisoifigiuil.ieCaptain</URL>, is it really true that your Government doesn't publish Statutory Instruments on the Internet? I find that astonishing - they can't be secrets of State. 
<br ...

<r>Well, maybe we could write some more between us. I'm not sure Limericks are proper poems though. 
 
This one is. It's by James Dickey, and I've hesitated several times about posting it. I decided to because it's so vivid and it impressed me. 
 
OK, I can't actually bring myself to ...

People seem recently to be more prone to giving their opinion without their reasons for holding it. The reasons, rather than the bald announcement, would be more conducive to discussion.

<r>capt_buzzard wrote: There are some very evil people and some very good people in this world. Would you like to look at <URL url="http://www.robertniles.com/stats/stdev.shtml">http://www.robertniles.com/stats/stdev.shtml</URL> and say whether that's the sort of distribution you're referring to ...

<t>You'll pardon my suggesting that I don't feel very fundamentalist, Ted. I was brought up with core beliefs, and the priesthood of all believers is fairly central to them. I'd say, myself, that a reliance on an unbroken Apostolic Succession is a tad more dogmatic by comparison with what I'd care ...

Isirta?

<t>There's a Pietist subset of Protestant Christianity which recognizes the priesthood of all believers (ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people). Certainly the Lutherans, Baptists and the Methodists. They base this on their interpretation of the bible. The ...

<r>scenerio wrote: ladycop said your supposed to write a poem <E>;)</E> My turn, my turn. We have to write them ourselves? 
 
This poetry forum's a sin 
 
I wouldn't let half of it in 
 
but those I hate most 
 
are instantly toast 
 
and left in my ...

<t>Koan, can't you reverse that sentence and find an equivalent truth from the other side? It would be something like: 
 
' I believe people are essentially bad. That is why we can't behave well permanently however hard we try. If we were good then each next act would also be good, and yet ...

<t>Ted wrote: Personally I am not in favour of any himn that suggests battle or fight. It is contrary to the message of Jesus Christ.But it's the same message of the same Jesus Christ that these hymn writers were bearing witness to in their day, Ted. Were they wrong even for their own time? Were ...

Oh... it's Skittles, she keeps bringing up God topics. Nothing to do with the hymn thread at all. My problem with hymns is a local domestic wedding that I'm coping with. The hymn thread, if you read it, is a very unsubtle joke of monumental proportions.

<t>The alien, obviously. Stands to reason. Can't have been the monkey! 
 
If you go back to before there was aliens, and before there was monkeys, there's nobody there to see what sort of God is at work. So whatever description of God you're asking for, the description can only come from the ...

<t>Hah! You're psychic, Rapunzel - that's two of the three hymns she's listed, that I'm looking out alternatives for! 
 
Instead of "Bind us together, Lord" she's gone for "Dear Lord and Father of mankind, 
 
forgive our foolish ways" because she liked it at school. 
 
This ...

<t>Koan, freedom is the knowledge that your own choice dictates all of your actions. The less that is true, the less free you are. 
 
If you are unable to fly your own private jet, your freedom is restricted not by the lack of money or the lack of cheap aircraft or the existence of tight ...

<t>capt_buzzard wrote: Don't mention it Spot. Where did you pick that up?I did some introductory Welsh and Erse lessons - what stopped me is the extraordinary spelling, it was worse than reading Russian. Why do you write TÃƒ¡ fÃƒ¡ilte romhat when what you say sounds like ta fort yerolt? Sat in a ...

<t>Words: Charlotte Elliott 
 
Tune: Vigilate, W.H. Monk. 
 
Christian, seek not yet repose, 
 
Cast thy dreams of ease away; 
 
Thou art in the midst of foes: 
 
Watch and pray. 
 
Principalities and pow'rs, 
 
Must'ring their unseen ...

<t>The Latest Decalogue, by Arthur Hugh Clough (1819-1861) 
 
 
 
Thou shalt have one God only; who 
 
Would be at the expense of two? 
 
No graven images may be 
 
Worshipped, except the currency: 
 
Swear not at all; for, for thy curse 
<br ...

<t>I'm getting the hang of this, slowly... 
 
 
 
1 TWO are better far than one 
 
For counsel or for fight; 
 
How can one be warm alone, 
 
Or serve his God aright? 
 
Join we then our hearts and hands, 
 
Each to love provoke his ...

<t>Come on Captain, I'm serious. If I don't find suitable hymns, we'll be stuck with And Did Those Feet. Honest. 
 
Here's an alternative. I'm not convinced, yet. 
 
 
 
Words: Anne BrontÃƒ« (1820-1849). 
 
Tune: Clifton (J. Brabham) 
 
Believe not those who ...

<t>I've been asked to suggest a wedding hymn or two. 
 
Here's the best I've come up with so far: 
 
Words: Henry K. White (1785-1806) and Frances S. Fuller Maitland. 
 
Tune: University College, Henry J. Gauntlett, 1852. 
 
Oft in sorrow, oft in woe, 
<br ...

capt_buzzard wrote: I have to agree with youYou can have Membership Card #2 then, Captain. I'll get some banners made... where shall we hold our first Rally?

<t>There are different ways of introducing social change. You can take a path of continuous improvement, using and eventually modifying existing constitutional provisions. Alternatively, you can overthrow the existing constitutional provisions and set up a new political system lacking continuity ...

<t>I listened to the game. It got quite frustrating, I thought. 
 
Did the crowd really break into singing Go West after the cup was presented? From what I remember of seeing that done live at Glastonbury on the Pyramid Stage, it's a bit camp. Maybe the Arsenal crowd at Cardiff doesn't ...

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