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The first wholly new interpretation for two thousand years of the Gospel and moral teaching of Christ has been published. Radically different from anything else we known from history or tradition. Redefining all primary elements including the very nature of Faith, the Word, Law, Baptism, the Trinity...

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<t>Infinite Stop;1388608 wrote: First, I'll mention in passing that I very much doubt the originality of Christ's alleged teachings. "Tell me, if I were to attain knowledge of God via faith, then how might that be testable? " But can you tell us how that revolution may lead to...

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<t>While I could not but agree that science will never prove God, the model of scientific scrutiny, with testability of claims, may yet show it's value in the God discussion. For it would appear, from material circulating on the web, that what history, science and religion thought impossible has now...

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<t>In my original post, I meant to generalize. But my critical comments apply as much to LDS as to all other traditions. For all the claims religion makes, not one, at any time in history, has ever demonstrated the efficacy of their relationship with God by accurately predicting any action of divine...

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I have no doubt that there is a plan, only that 'religion' doesn't have a clue what that is! You hedge your bets your way ans I'll hedge mine my way. And never the twain shall meet!

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<t>There are in the world thee monotheistic religious traditions. The largest, called 'Christianity', started as a single monolith sometime around two thousand years ago, but now compromises thousands of different denominations, large and small. They all have different, competing versions and vision...

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<r>It is not possible to discuss issues with anyone who remains by choice so ill informed of developing events. But for those who can read, the material at this link is worth discussion. []<URL url="http://www.energon.org.uk">www.energon.org.uk</URL>] But come back to me in private so I don't waste ...

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<t>The tragedy of the human condition, reflected by the senior member responding to this thread, is that instead of opening ones mind, having both the intellectual curiosity and integrity to investigate something new, something that may offer solutions for both mankind and the earth itself that are ...

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<t>Can any judgement begin without the conflicting claims of religious tradition not coming under scrutiny? Those who take the time to download and read The Final Freedoms, and then test it for themselves, will fully understand why, what may sound so implausible, even mad, has now come within the bo...

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By the hand of the very God they 'claim' to represent, Christianity goes down first, then Judaism, then Islam, then all other claims to 'spiritual' teaching by whatever name they go by............. Easier done than said!

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The whole of history............

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<r>We tend to think of terms such as 'prophecy' and 'judgement' or 'end times' from within the cutural context, that is the 'religious' context from which they were created. Whether one is a believer or not. That context is of course a theological expression and the validity of theology may have alr...

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<t>Having gone through most stages of 'religious' illusion in my own 55 years and ended up as a leftie, activist, agnostic, I'm more than aware of all the pitfalls of religious self-deception. Even being an athiest is just a response to the intellectual vaccuousness of tradition. At the same time I ...

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<t>This may be an 'inconvenient 'truth' but this represents an entirely new paradigm in our conception and understanding of religion. I quote from a review of the marterial I found: 'This new teaching is pure ethics. It requires no institutional framework, no churches, no priest craft, no...

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<r>Maybe just about everything! To comprehend what's wrong with religion ask a simple question. What does every mono theistic tradition have in common? The problem starts with that very slippery word called 'truth'. Five thousand years on and three mono-theisms later, the secular world ha...

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<t>I have been to many other forum to discuss The Final Freedoms. Some of my own and some started by others. And like this one, I have done so strictly under the rules of every forum I have visited. Nor have I ever send anything more than a single email to any individual and only when material on th...

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<t>The pdf file is an entire book. An entirely new and complete religious teaching. My guess is that the intention is to first distribute the teaching as far and wide as possible on the web in anticipation of a paper edition, one that can only be controversial in the extreme. Why do I think this has...

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<t>People keep missing the very big point. The ability to discover whether one is self deceived or not is exactly what distinguishes this teaching from everything else in history. For the first time in RECORDED history, unlike any other truth claim from any monotheistic traditon, I [or a...

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<t>'Confronting ignorance and self deception with truth is never easy; as Galileo among many others knew too well. For man seems more concerned with erecting and protecting the view of himself he wants to believe then accepting what is true, especially when truth threatens cheerished ideas and what ...

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<t>Opinions, opposition, skepticism, can be particuarly useful in breaking any intellectual log jam. But the Final Freedoms is something quite different. That is why it is important to be informed about this material by reading it and not just responding to the opening post or even to the web site l...

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<r>Pinky The Bible is just a group of scriptural material from a much greater collection. Some only discovered this century, like the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Nag Hammadi Library of Gnostic Gospels. But who ever wrote The Final Freedoms has made the Bible look exactly what is it, a small ...

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<t>With so many unresolved conundrums facing mankind, so briefly into a new millennium and with any hope for the century giving way to foreboding: of a clash of civilisations, fears for the environment, of natural disasters and pandemics, I would suggest that what happened two thousand years ago fai...

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<t>The previous two posts well explain the confusion of religion. Every idea of what is 'spiritual' or what is 'Chrisitian' or what is moral has been defined by ourselves from within the cultural understanding of what these things mean. Culture, like theology is a human construct, so therefore is ou...

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<t>Religous tradition may in fact be mankinds worst enemy? Under the pretense that 'tradition' knows, and in an all too human gullibility, we have been lulled into not thinking and questioning enough for ourselves, swallowing a false conception of God that does nothing, and licence any self proclaim...

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<t>They shoot the messenger don't they? No doubt when this material comes into open public debate which is inevitable, the author with appear as well. But by his absence now, the focus remains on the teaching itself. And that very much speaks for itself. You only need to read one chapter, 'Perfect F...

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<t>My first thought that comes to mind is that famous quote: the path to hell is paved with good intentions'. The first chapter appropriately is entitled The Fall. This is a 'judgement' on human nature itself. However or whatever we may be or believe about ourselves to be, from with in our own cultu...

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<t>Ted I've have sent a couple download links by private message to you. As for questions, If you do the asking I'll try to answer according to The Final Freedoms manuscript that I've been studying. You may do this as part of the forum or privately as you wish. Even if you don'...

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<t>Ted I would be pleased to but I am not allowed to post URLs until I have posted fifteen times first. Those are the rules and I was automatically stopped when I tried at the beginning of this forum. But your point is well taken. I'm sitting at my desk reading what the whole of history h...

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<t>As I said in my last post, I don't regard the DaVinci code as anything other than the purest fiction. [and not the best of fiction either]. But the few facts it does weave into its plot line are significant. The number of people looking for answers to problems that are self evidently beyond the p...

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<t>This may be of interest. Since the opening of the Davinci Code movie, the site stats at one of the download sites for The Final Freedoms have jumped by almost a million hits just since the 19th May. While DaVinci as a whole is an interesting fiction, it's understandable why the Christ...

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<t>I agree completely with the last post. But all theological traditions must be the 'ways' of men. This new revelation is the only 'way' that can demonstrate it is from God. So the choice is the theologies of men, obviously the wide road, and the 'way' of God. And it is very narrow. You'...

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<t>No, but I am saying that no moral man could write a proof of the living God, now that such a living and testable proof exists, [it is a test of faith and love that God has set before all men and women] God must have revealed that knowledge to someone, to then reveal it to the world. If that is th...

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<t>Right or wrong, true or false. Either these moral and intellectual conceptions have value of they don't. Moral conceptions are best founded in Law and principle. The intellectual conception of truth is still being developed, even if science has provided a much more secure hold of the nature of re...

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<t>Unlike others who so lightly dismiss this. I have downloaded and read through and studied the material which is meant to be the subject of this discusion. Both my wife and I are convinced by it and we have started this new path. The great advantage is that we now have a teaching that we can test ...

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<t>Anyone who cannot examine ideas and can only attempt to discredit them, even before he has read them, demonstrates only fear and the failure of reason. There has never been a promise [or Word] from God, defined by any existing tradition, whereby God is prepared to confirm it by a direct intervent...

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<t>The DaVinci Code may have unwittingly [or orthwise] brought up the most uncomfortable questions about the origins of the Christian' church, its effect can at best only further erode the credibility of an already creaking institution. But what might very well bring the church down is circulating o...

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