<t>Bryn Mawr;1390176 wrote: Hardly rigorous :wah:<br/> <br/> You've been giving out opinions as statements of fact, I would expect you to have more reasoning behind them than that.<br/> <br/> Or is it an article of faith with you that God cannot exist - something accepted without proof?<br/> <br/> <...

The very fact that no one here can present anything but personal experience testifies to the fact its a head game.

<t>spot;1390086 wrote: There was a Roman census in 6-7AD across Judea though, and it led to riots. It's not the same date as Herod the Great, and it can't have involved mass returns to ancestral villages, but it's a feasible date and it's a historical census. Your "Third, Roman censuses were not adm...

<t>Vrindavana Das;1390085 wrote: God is defined as follows:<br/> <br/> The Supreme Personality of Godhead, Lord Kṛṣṇa, is always full with six opulences—namely complete wealth, complete strength, complete fame, complete knowledge, complete beauty and complete renunciation.<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> God...

<t>Vrindavana Das;1390078 wrote: The external proof is in the scriptures revealed for us to understand the 'attributes of God.'<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> Let me throw the question back at you. Other than what you say about God being a figment of man's imagination. What proof do you have tha...

<t>Ahso!;1390073 wrote: Which parts are you referring to? Where Jesus said he came to destroy families by setting mothers against fathers and brothers against sisters (or however it was phrased)? Jesus did a lot of mumbo-jumbo talking as well - the parables. Then there's the sermon on the mount wher...

Howdy..how you? Me? Fine as frog hair thank you.

LarsMac;1390063 wrote: Well, it only becomes important if someone discounts everything that Jesus said, due to Luke being confused about the time-line.

IMHO.


I give up...........................

<t>Bryn Mawr;1390036 wrote: Certainly there are problems with Luke's description, especially the dating where he was trying to tie the dates of Jesus's birth with that of John's ten years earlier but the existence of a census in 6 - 7 AD is testified outside of the Bible, notably by Josephus. This i...

<t>Bryn Mawr;1389826 wrote: I have a dilemma regarding one of the main stories in the Bible and I'm hoping that we can reach a consensus one way or another.<br/> <br/> I suppose this thread is a spin off from Science Will Never Prove God and especially Pappy's last post there - here is the scenario ...

<t>Infinite Stop;1389978 wrote: Were you more familiar with my line of argument you would know that there can be no external proof. The "proof" cannot extend beyond the mind of the one who has had a revelation of God. If you haven't already, you can find out my views on the subject in the thread, "S...

<t>Infinite Stop;1389982 wrote: On the contrary, revelation is the only experience that overcomes circular reasoning and the argument from ignorance. There could be no greater proof of God outside of personally experiencing God. This may not suit your desire for a scientific proof for God, but that'...

<t>Mickiel;1389897 wrote: No, there are no facts that you can see and discern as proof, conversely, there are thousands of proofs of God that I can see and discern. You simply are speaking for yourself and your comprehension. There are over 100 proofs in this thread alone; proofs of God are like any...

<t>Infinite Stop;1389950 wrote: I can only guess. For one, I was desperate and in need of a miracle; not everyone needs a miracle. It wasn't because I was so holy or anything like that. On the contrary, I was freakin' mess. I will add, I think by not answering prayer, God is in a way indeed answerin...

<t>Infinite Stop;1389886 wrote: Hmmm..Is this a trick? You aren't going to ask to borrow money are you? LOL <br/> <br/> I'm so convinced that what I'm saying here makes sense that I can't understand why everyone can't agree with me. Really, I'm not saying that much, and what I am saying seems to me ...

<t>Mickiel;1389548 wrote: Is God Real? The future of humanity, its " Real" future, is soley based on this question. There are those who are content with believing that humanitys future is based on humanity; I don't have that kind of confidence in humanity. But I need more confidence in Gods reality....

<t>kingsley1929;1389805 wrote: he Creator created the laws of physics, the laws of physics created the galaxy - given the laws of physics the galaxy will exist and will be beautiful.<br/> <br/> Bryn.who created God , and why?<br/> <br/> <br/> He cannot answer that one. Ben Franklin once said " I loo...

<t>spot;1389806 wrote: Perfectly put, there's no waste, just the good news. I look forward to reading more from you.<br/> <br/> <br/> Not quite sure what your agreeing with? The debate is "circular logic".<br/> <br/> Christian: God exist.<br/> <br/> Atheists: How do you know God exist?<br/> <br/> Ch...

<t>rajakrsna;1389419 wrote: It`s hard Vrndavan my dear friend for some people to realize that God can assume any form he wants maybe in the form of Lord Siva. They rather want to experience associating with God in the form of Jesus of Nazareth. A God who is meek, kind and loving. But what if God man...

jeje_chow;1365765 wrote: No one but God has created everything


An assumption no one can prove.....

Yeah they are cute but never try to raise them they are a pain in the butt! Had 3 baby great horned owls one time after the tree they were in got cut down. Had them for about a week finally turned them over to a wildlife rehab person who raised them and set them free.

Ahso!;1389797 wrote: Is that a Southern Cross in your avatar, Pappy?


It's a cross. Not sure which kind I could never tell...

rajakrsna;1389792 wrote: Sounds familiar this Pappy. Don`t tell me you and Rasa. Again? (chuckling)


Nope. Got no idea what your talking about......................

I am Pappy and got no idea why I joined this forum? But since I am here what the hell! I live in the South not deep South but close. Anyway look forward to chatting with everyone here.

God and religion is just an excuse for having to die.....man made deity.